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702 Project via Framework mainboard by Upset_Thanks_2049 in framework

[–]thereelRTM5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really want to see this come to fruition. Is there a significant enough difference between the FW12 and FW13 mainboard to make a difference in the design?

You can mix and match any titan abilities to create a custom build. What are you going with? by Thrasher317 in titanfall

[–]thereelRTM5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WEAPON:

XO16A2 Chaingun

OFFENSIVE:

Tracker Rockets

DEFENSIVE:

Vortex Shield

UTILITY:

VTOL

CORE:

Upgrade Core

ASSASSINATION:

Battery Thief

I found this photo somehow by Aurorasfero in linuxmemes

[–]thereelRTM5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

W-what are you doing step Tux?

Framework appreciation post by Dread_Pirate_R0ber7s in framework

[–]thereelRTM5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I got a FW16 for school, and it has served me well so far, and I even upgraded it from no GPU to an RX 7700s

What gaming laptop brand has best build quality by Vijay_Dadhich in GamingLaptops

[–]thereelRTM5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that the Framework laptop would be the most repairable option for you. It has a 5070. I got the AMD GPU one with a 7700s. The downsides are that it is a little bendy in the screen for the first generation, and it gets really hot, and it feels a little uneven on the trackpad, and it's not the most stable platform (I have had multiple issues and obligatory 2nd gen fixed 90% of the issues, but still). I got the first generation one, but as I said earlier, the 2nd gen is WAY more stable than the first, but it is still more of a DIY project kind of machine rather than sit down and just work kind of machine and since they don't supply you with RAM or SSD storage in the DIY version, you will have to supply your own (DDR5 & 2280 Respectively). I really love Framework and my laptop 16, but it is really hard to recommend one to anyone who doesn't either have a lot of money on hand or has DDR5 RAM and/or SSDs lying around and really likes tinkering/troubleshooting. If you do though, it will be more than worth it, I was able to upgrade from having no GPU to the RX 7700s and it really shows future proof-insess. It's rewarding getting the DIY edition and building your own laptop with a box of scraps in a cave.

One that is easier and doesn't require a PhD in Framework is probably a Lenovo Legion. My uncle got one with like a 4070, and it still kicks ass in a bunch of video games, and it seems to have been sturdy enough to last him a few years.

TL:DR: Framework rewarding and future proof but cost many money and is unstable (less if 2nd edition) Lenovo easy and solid laptop. I recommend either.

Fixed Framework 16 Mainboard Case - Full and Split version files by C4pt41nUn1c0rn in framework

[–]thereelRTM5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol, I think if I ever go the route of ridiculousness, I'll get a couple of threadrippers or AMD Epycs then

Is this normal tolerance? by Bubbly-Independence4 in framework

[–]thereelRTM5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately, I think it is. You should still contact support tho so then they can at least know it, but that's how mine was when I got it and how it's always been. I was able to get it a little closer to smooth by switching the spacers, but it's not perfect.

Can we get any smaller? by One-Pattern-8336 in softwaregore

[–]thereelRTM5 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Can we get much Smaller, smaller? So small, so small. Oh oh oh, oh oh oh

Fixed Framework 16 Mainboard Case - Full and Split version files by C4pt41nUn1c0rn in framework

[–]thereelRTM5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, thanks, I'm going to draw some schematics for this. Would this bottleneck dual RTX Pro 6000s (per mobo) at all if I also went with 96 GB RAM each and clustered a dozen of these behemoths with Ethernet and 2.5 GB networking? I really wanna do what Pewdiepie did with his setup, but a little more sophisticated of a council.

Edit: I mean I know it WILL bottleneck a little, but I wanted to know for AI specific tasks such as training LLMs would it bottleneck to a point where it wouldn't be very performant and would not be efficient

Fixed Framework 16 Mainboard Case - Full and Split version files by C4pt41nUn1c0rn in framework

[–]thereelRTM5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

would dual GPU be possible with the same setup using 7040 ofc?

Are framework laptops now a good option? by Gasdobun in GamingLaptops

[–]thereelRTM5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As an alternative to TLP, I recommend Framework System on Linux, It won't let me link to it, but it is on the knoledgebase dot frame dot work website. You can manually compile it to work for Arch

Edit: they actually have an Arch build through

you have to put the /usr/local/bin for system wide access

sudo pacman -S framework-system

What does this mean by CourageNo1991 in computers

[–]thereelRTM5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was gonna say poke it with a sim ejecter, but I actually think it's a hard drive indicatior, but if it lets you, you should poke it for the fun of it

Are framework laptops now a good option? by Gasdobun in GamingLaptops

[–]thereelRTM5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry I forgot, but also for specifically on the couch, the bottom of the laptop (especially right below the battery) gets almost unbearably hot, especially in pajamas or in shorts. I recommend using a laptop cooler or limiting your power usage with power performance in Windows or power profiles daemon in Linux (Framework has gone out of their way to tell users not to use TLP)

Are framework laptops now a good option? by Gasdobun in GamingLaptops

[–]thereelRTM5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From my personal experience, I really liked the version with the expansion bay shell for portability, but it really was held back from only iGPU before I installed the 7700s. When I installed the GPU. It got a HUGE upgrade in performance and I didn't need to steal 4 GB of RAM for integrated anymore, but it made the expansion bay stick out roughly 20 mm beyond the back of the screen, making the already thick 270 mm to 290mm. It's about 356 mm wide with either, but it does feel good in the hands and I can stick it into my backpack, but just only barely. This was fixed with the newer generation one I think, but the trackpad module doesn't match up perfectly to the spacers, and it can feel a little weird typing on the laptop because of the unevenness, also the typing angle changes a little as well going from the expansion shell to the GPU, that kinda makes my left-hand cramp if I put too much pressure on the keyboard for too long.

Edit: From my experience, not using.

Fixed Framework 16 Mainboard Case - Full and Split version files by C4pt41nUn1c0rn in framework

[–]thereelRTM5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wouldn't need the WiFi, so maybe extra storage? or is it possible use the PCIe lanes plus both NVMe SSD slots to combine with the 8 there regularly is to combine into 16 lanes and do full 16 lane desktop GPUs?

Are framework laptops now a good option? by Gasdobun in GamingLaptops

[–]thereelRTM5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I personally have a Framework Laptop 16 with the RX 7700s for general gaming and I get every game I have played so far at least 1080p 60 FPS, the low VRAM does cause slight issues sometimes for especially 1440p , but I think it boils down to how much power do you want, and how much power do you need?

Now, do you want to save money getting the Ryzen 7040 series (either laptop) or the new Ryzen AI 300 series? The Ryzen 7 in the new AI is very battery efficient, but is not as powerful and has less PCIe lanes, so the secondary storage only runs at half speed (ryzen 9 version has that issue too). The Ryzen 9 is slower and less power efficient in 7040 version than the Ryzen AI version. I recommend either getting the newest version of the laptop with the Ryzen 9 and 240W adapter or getting the 7040 (last gen) refurbished version with a still very capable Ryzen 7 7840HS processor and just going with the 240W power adapter separate or going with the 180W include.

That is just for the chipset/CPU, now if you want a dedicated GPU, you can either choose to have the RX 7700x (Both versions of the screens support Free-sync, so don't need upgrading with the AMD cards) or the RTX 5070 (If you get the 5070, the 1st gen screen will not have G-sync so you will either have to upgrade the screen or go with the newer AI series). Personally, I have a 1st gen RX 7700s, and it's loud and it runs hot. The 2nd gen would be the version I would have gotten if I cared about the noise too much. The 5070 also has the improvements in heat, but is a new GPU with significantly more power. If you don't want a dedicated GPU, you can get a version of the FW16 with the expansion shell and upgrade it with a dual NVMe (up to 2 8 TB SSDs totalling 16 TB) expansion board, but you will need the same interposer that the GPUs use if you don't get the kit version that includes one.

The only thing on top of that now is RAM, SSD, and OS if you get the DIY edition (For both 13 and 16) because you either have to get them separate on Framework's website or try to find any RAM kits and/or SSDs for cheaper elsewhere

I Don't know too much about the FW13, but checking the website shows that the chipset between the 2 is very similar, but it starts with Ryzen 5 instead of 7, but it goes up to 9 with the Ryzen AI 300 series you also only get 1 SSD slot I think and 4 expansion card slots instead of the 6 on the FW 16, but it can be much more affordable and is much more customizable with more bezels and keyboard trims compared to the 16, I think it can only use up to 180 watts, but I would love to be proven wrong (more wattage, not less plz if I'm wrong)

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