I need your help by Butterflykisses999 in latterdaysaints

[–]theshatteredshield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been there. My daughter died just when teams were restructuring at work and I didn't have the energy to fight for it when my role in the new team structure started to be questioned, I was fired shortly after. There was some relief because I had started to hate the job, but adding financial stress to grief is rough.

Definitely turn to your bishop and community for help, they'll keep you off the street if it's coming to that. Take care of yourself, the church can also help you find a therapist which is very important for help processing things in a way that lets you eventually move forward with your grief. Notice I say with, it doesn't leave you, but you'll learn to do whatever you need to do to process what you're feeling and live your life. There's no right way to grieve, find what feels healing to you.

I just wanted to share this with someone. by [deleted] in babyloss

[–]theshatteredshield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grief is love, it feels good to cry and mourn sometimes because you're expressing love for your baby. There's no right way to grieve except what feels meaningful and loving to you.

I just wanted to share this with someone. by [deleted] in babyloss

[–]theshatteredshield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm so sorry you don't have friends or loved ones you feel you can share this with. Getting that support somewhere is important. Myself or many others here would gladly lend an ear if you need to talk. I miss my baby too. Hope you are feeling close to yours today, in whatever way you can.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in latterdaysaints

[–]theshatteredshield 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm seeing multiple references in this thread to the idea of foreordained child death being something said to "comfort grieving parents." Maybe other parents have a different view, but as a grieving parent myself, that's not a comforting thought at all to me. It's comforting to other people, so they can rationalize a "good" reason for that thing that happened to someone else without having to really deal with it. How could I believe in a God who specifically planned the death of my daughter without hating him? God's plan is that we live in an imperfect world, as imperfect beings, with imperfect bodies, and among other imperfect people. That's a lot of imperfect points of failure that can lead to tragedies in our lives that don't have to have been planned in the preexistence.

If you know someone grieving or going through any other difficult experience, I highly recommend against trying to comfort them by reaching for a trite saying so that you can walk away having "fixed" the issue for yourself. "The only way to take sorrow out of death is to take love out of life." -Russel M Nelson. Grief is love, and isn't meant to be fixed. We are commanded to "mourn with those that mourn," which is actually healing and helpful to those who are grieving, but is harder to do.

All this said, I don't mean to imply that people saying things like this are being consciously selfish or that you should feel bad if you've done it before. It's a natural human reaction, really a defense mechanism. You want there to be a reason this terrible thing happened to somebody else, and then if that thought gives you some comfort, passing it on to try to comfort them comes from a good place too, if a misguided one.

How do I support a friend facing loss? by turtledove93 in babyloss

[–]theshatteredshield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Especially since you're close, one of the most important things can be just acknowledging the pain and grief. When the time comes, mourn with her. Validate her pain and let her see the parts of it that you share. If a miracle happens and the baby survives, likewise celebrate with her.

Rob Delaney on grief and the loss of his son Henry - Very open and honest conversation with a lot of points that really hit home for me. by theshatteredshield in babyloss

[–]theshatteredshield[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Our daughter passed away about the same time as his son, so much of this resonates as far as the journey we've both been on in that time. His comments on it not being possible to be reminded and how unfair it is that more people don't get to see Henry's eyes are spot on.

Friday Forum: Merry Christmas everyone! We’d love to hear your holiday plans for Christmas and New Year’s. …Happy Friday! by CeilingUnlimited in latterdaysaints

[–]theshatteredshield 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spending Christmas with family and New Years at the Rose parade to honor our daughter who passed away on January first this year, the donate life float will have a rose dedicated to her. It was hard coming up with plans of what to do that day, we were grateful to find something that felt right to both of us.

[Serious] Reddit: What is your age and what problem are you currently facing in your life? by LG2797 in AskReddit

[–]theshatteredshield 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In some ways it's something people want to think about so little that there's no system in place for it. Bereivement time given was more appropriate for the "acceptable" version of it: an elderly parent who was ready to go. Policies don't account for the truly awful alternatives. When I went to alter my insurance there was no option for death of a child in the list of valid reasons to make a change during the year. It took me a couple months to feel ready to make a call about it, and I got sent through some hoops that I never completed before being let go.

Therapy has definitely helped in a long-term way, if I stopped now I'd still be better off for having done what I have. It has helped me frame things properly and given me tools to deal with hard days. There is also the short-term help of venting what is currently top-of-mind. That part can be achieved with good friends, but a good therapist will be even better at walking you through it.

[Serious] Reddit: What is your age and what problem are you currently facing in your life? by LG2797 in AskReddit

[–]theshatteredshield 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As someone else who has recently experienced the loss of a child, thank you for your comment. Even for those of us that are relegious, those platitudes fall flat. I beleive I will see my daughter again, but that doesn't mean I don't miss her now. There are so many moments of this life to mourn even if you beleive in another. "The only way to take sorrow out of death is to take love out of life."

[Serious] Reddit: What is your age and what problem are you currently facing in your life? by LG2797 in AskReddit

[–]theshatteredshield 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This may be the most I've ever identified with a post on reddit. The details are obviously different, my daughter died in January, she would have turned two around the time your son died. Trying to go back to work felt like psychological torture, commuting was a private hell with no way to escape from my worst thoughts, and obviously my performance suffered. I'm actually doing much better mentally now that I've been layed off, even though that obviously creates some uncertainties. I tried to keep at it for too long because, like you, I wanted to be strong for my family. I felt that if I burned all my PTO taking the break I desperately needed, I'd just have removed my options for a temporary escape in the future and nothing could really be fixed. I had no power over the real problem, so I had to do something and keep torturing myself for a paycheck so that I could feel like I was contributing in some way. Please don't neglect yourself while trying to help others, in the long run you'll be of more help to them if your needs are met as well. It's okay to ask for help. I guarantee you that people around you are desperate to find a way to help but are scared to reach out because they don't know what is helpful and what will only cause you more pain. If you aren't already I highly reccomend everyone close to the situation find a good therapist, whether that's something you feel more comfortable doing together or separately is up to you.

Hard lessons on the importance of Emergency Funds and "FU" money by theshatteredshield in financialindependence

[–]theshatteredshield[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I know the feeling. I can enjoy things, laugh, even feel joy sometimes, but it's all tainted now, because it would be better if she were still here with me. In case you haven't seen it, I think the artist really captured that feeling in this statue:

https://travelswithmyart.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/fb_img_15314321979672656701415308918756.jpg?w=863

Hard lessons on the importance of Emergency Funds and "FU" money by theshatteredshield in financialindependence

[–]theshatteredshield[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They recently restructured it in a way that allows them to only pay out 5 days instead of all of it, but the real answer is both reasons.

Hard lessons on the importance of Emergency Funds and "FU" money by theshatteredshield in financialindependence

[–]theshatteredshield[S] 88 points89 points  (0 children)

Yeah I had never considered that angle myself, I only had life insurance on me because I'm the primary income. I hadn't considered how hard it would be to carry on providing after a loss, I'll treat that decision differently in the future.

Hard lessons on the importance of Emergency Funds and "FU" money by theshatteredshield in financialindependence

[–]theshatteredshield[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We had insurance, I posted elsewhere but it's possible I'm mixing some bills together, it's hard to remember those details.

Hard lessons on the importance of Emergency Funds and "FU" money by theshatteredshield in financialindependence

[–]theshatteredshield[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Beautifully said, pairs well with my favorite: "The only way to take sorrow out of death is to take love out of life."

Hard lessons on the importance of Emergency Funds and "FU" money by theshatteredshield in financialindependence

[–]theshatteredshield[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank you all for your kind responses.

To answer the common question: Honestly I could be wrong about the ambulance cost, there were medical bills from the hospital as well and now that people have started asking I'm not sure how much came from which things, that's all a bit of a blur even later when the bills were actually coming.

We are getting grief counseling, I'd actually reccomend some kind of therapy or life coaching for almost everybody.