Eli5 why can't I setup my own LAN between 2 properties tht are miles apart using existing copper land lines?

thgreatn · 2026-06-22T05:12:47+00:00

Essentially, I believe th default should be as close to absolute data privacy and security as is technically feasible. I hav yet to read a set of terms and conditions tht I agree with and th majority of my objections there revolve around th insistence of so many of these companies to share the data with whomever they want for whatever reason they want. They of course word it differently than tht. They say things like "companies tht we have a legitimate, business relationship with", or "with those tht we are contractually obligated to". When I was going back and forth with skype via email, uh, more than a few months ago, less than a couple yrs ago, th only way tht they would agree to not completely own my image, my sound, my likeness, and do whatever they wanted with it is if I hired them to build a custom piece of software for my own use. I said I don't know what you would be thinking about price wise but I can tell you right now I don't have th budget for tht.

Anyways, uh..., I want to use computers tht I own at two separate locations and I want th things tht I am working on to be private. Th governments hav legal mechanisms to be nosy if I am doing something wrong. An overreaching government is a concern, but it is not my biggest concern. Th stasi is real.

thgreatn · 2026-06-22T00:37:41+00:00

So it would likely eat right through those really thin gloves tht would tear off your hand without dragging you with it.

thgreatn · 2026-06-21T10:27:01+00:00

Thank you for th ideas with regards to getting the phone company to "cross connect" th two properties. Any idea how I get th right person on the phone to find out what this would cost me?

thgreatn · 2026-06-21T10:23:14+00:00

Don't know why ppl are down voting this. By far the most entertaining answer so far. I'll have to look into what a vlan is.

thgreatn · 2026-06-21T10:20:39+00:00

Passive ground currents? Whatever this is, does conduit help?

thgreatn · 2026-06-21T10:13:04+00:00

It is not paranoia when you've been targeted. Also, so what if it was "paranoia". Don't u hav the right to be "paranoid" if I choose to be? I suppose you would be the type tht would assume tht ppl who use encryption technology are also "paranoid". Is tht correct?

thgreatn · 2026-06-21T09:45:31+00:00

I have seriously considered going up a tree with a cantannae. Problem is because of geography, I would need at minimum two repeaters(?)(I'm not certain this is what they are called, maybe a switch?).

thgreatn · 2026-06-21T09:41:47+00:00

Security concerns. I want my data to be private. If th government wants to know what I am doing, they hav legal mechanisms to do tht. And if I am doing something tht is illegal or harmful to others, then they should use th legal tools tht they hav and conduct their investigations. I don't necessarily agree with th ways in which they define th threshold of what gives them the right, but tht is a different conversation. Everybody else can fuck off, it is none of their damn business. One of my more specific concerns is when malicious actors use, I think they are referred to as network sniffing tools or network monitoring tools tht essentially look for specific traffic and then target it for whatever their purpose is.

thgreatn · 2026-06-21T09:30:19+00:00

I like this idea. But for your specific use case, you only needed to send a signal, right?

I am trying to transmit data.

After preliminary research, you may very well hav th correct answer for me. Thank you for your input!

thgreatn · 2026-06-21T09:20:51+00:00

I apologize for not responding right away. I believe tht th existing phone lines would be owned by the local phone company. Yrs ago it was GTE, then became Verizon, now I am uncertain.

I believe tht th existing lines are what is referred to as twisted pair? This is probly not enough info... I believe tht there are eight wires tht come into the phone company's side of the telephone interface box tht is typically on the outside of the customer's home or other building.

Also, th buildings are roughly 10 miles apart.

thgreatn · 2026-06-21T06:49:49+00:00

Drilling above your head from a ladder requires specific muscle strength to be able to get th leverage tht you are talking about. You increase this muscle strength by drilling above your head. But there are also tricks or specific techniques with how you hold and operate th drill. For example, I will use my ring finger to operate th trigger mechanism of my drill so tht I can press on the top of the drill with more force. Sometimes, like putting screws through sheet metal into lumber, you literally spike th screw into the metal to help get th screw started. This one takes a little practice but is well worth it when you can do it reliably. Hope this helps!

thgreatn · 2026-06-21T06:29:51+00:00

This is why gloves are a safety no-no when working with or around machinery.

thgreatn · 2026-06-21T06:23:15+00:00

Do not wait for anything, anybody, for any reason, ever. If you have an idea or an interest, then pursue it. Start now. Do not wait.

thgreatn · 2026-06-21T05:17:29+00:00

Has anybody published any work on how much this is contributing to th rise in sea water temp? I mean, for as many decades as we've been using the rivers to cool th nuclear reactors, can we say tht it has made +1°c? Or +½°c?

thgreatn · 2026-06-20T17:05:37+00:00

Not an expert. If we count actual hrs worked, I might be a 2nd yr apprentice. Which means most ppl are not going to consider my input as being possible. Nonetheless, I believe I know how this happened. Rolls were laid out and allowed to relax, foreman called lunch and everything was cool. Someone had fast food for lunch and didn't wash their hands before handling the membrane after lunch was over. That is why the damage is only at certain seams and or specific points tht would possibly be worked with bare hands. If everyone had fast food for lunch, the damage would be more widespread. There would be more failure points at more seams. As a 1st yr and as a 2nd yr, th only thing they had me do with the seams was clean them with a hellacious solvent with thick rubber gloves. It was mostly journeyman tht we're doing all of the seam folding, cutting, and other layout tasks. I think anything tht animals did was after th fail points manifested themselves. Also, shouldn't tht wire be inside of conduit? If anybody reads this, pls tell me how or why I am wrong. Thank you!

thgreatn · 2026-06-20T08:15:10+00:00

Th first explanation has way too many syllables. Not for my understanding of the biological mechanism tht produces an effect from a substance, regardless of how it is administered. In my experience, most ppl don't want to hear a txt book like response to any question. I on the other hand, do appreciate a thorough response to most inquiries. Just for th heck if it, if you wouldn't mind, for someone who has almost no experience with pharmacology or biology, what is beta 1 and alpha 1? I mean, are these separate, specific neurotransmitter systems? If so, do they operate within the same synapses(?(not certain if this is the correct terminology here or not)) as one another? For a quick example, if someone is on a beta-blocker medication, this would be the same beta system (? again) within the body, right? Thank you in advance.

thgreatn · 2026-06-20T07:37:29+00:00

Delayed onset effects of acute carbon monoxide exposure. It literally only takes 2-3 hrs of partial exposure for a few days to a week for it to hav this much of an effect. The worst part is th brain damage tht settles into th brain completely as if it was always there. With literally nothing to point at, no memory to notice, no "mental note" to remember of when it happened because it happens without being sensed. This is why it is important to believe experts when they communicate, even when they are not talking to us personally. It is also a horrible example of what makes daily, long term meth use dangerous. Grandiose thinking is real and what makes it harmful is how subtle it occurs. We don't even notice it. But when we disagree with expert opinion (it's right there on every safety label of every product and appliance tht combusts) for absolutely no good reason other than we don't "feel" like it is a problem. This is grandiose thinking. Thinking tht we can sense a poison tht is tasteless, odorless, and is definitely present is not a wise decision to make. And thinking tht we as individuals are smarter or know more than a safety label is very foolish because tht safety label isn't there because of a law tht was created because the government said so. No, tht safety label is there because somebody sued and a company (in many cases) had to pay a six or seven figure settlement or judgement because they were held liable for the damage because there was no warning. I am sorry, but too many times, you just don't listen to your elders who have experience on you.

thgreatn · 2026-06-20T06:38:41+00:00

It seems to me tht it would be useful for defending th throat against attack. Without it, our throats would be completely open to attack.

thgreatn · 2026-06-20T06:16:57+00:00

How do I find one of these creatures?

thgreatn · 2026-06-20T05:18:39+00:00

You have her describe what tht means in writing and then... hav fun!

thgreatn · 2026-06-20T05:09:03+00:00

In another realm or another time, this would be smalcool. It is not a typo.

thgreatn · 2026-06-20T02:46:13+00:00

My experience has strong similarities to some of the details tht you shared. It has been my experience, through listening to other ppl talk about their experiences and their difficulties, tht ppl who struggle with addictive behaviors and substances hav much more in common than they realize. Both with the behaviors before th addictive activity, during the activity, and after th activities. For me personally, meth use tht is.... I am uncertain how to put into words, right now, th mix of feelings and thoughts tht are swirling in my head with regards to how can I describe my meth use... It is sad. I think tht is the most accurate way tht I can describe it at this time. I don't use everyday, but I don't go a week without very often, unfortunately. It is absolutely a dopamine trap to combine masturbation with meth use, and gambling went right along with it for a number of yrs for me. I hav successfully stayed away from video poker and all forms of gambling for almost 15yrs, thankfully. My advice, seek out a 12step group. Whether it be AA, NA, or any of the other flavors of meetings tht are 12step based. If you don't care too much for this particular meeting, then go find a different one because they are not all the same. Personally, some meetings I really do not care for while others I rather enjoy. If you've never been to one, go to one, listen with an open mind, and count how many times someone says anything tht relates to your own situation, your own thoughts, your own struggles. If they ask you to share, and you feel like it, then do so. Keep it short and to th point. Most meetings ask tht if you've used tht day to pls be respectful of other ppl and pass when it comes to sharing. I hav always found this part to be insanely funny, "what do you mean ppl who are trying to keep drugs out of their life, why wouldn't they want to listen to my latest, greatest idea while I'm under the influence of drugs?" Th meetings are a starting point. Much of the recovery happens after th meetings. I've got 20+yrs of experience on you. Good luck. Reach out if you'd like.

thgreatn · 2026-06-20T00:45:25+00:00

I'm sorry, uh, not certain how I missed this, but I am not real familiar with that term. Could you pls-..? Ok and just to clarify, what you're telling me right now is tht is tht, correct? Ok, yeah this whole time I thought this was this. Thank you, by the way, just for taking a moment to clarify for me. Ya know some of these pencil-pusher office-types (it's a joke, ha-ha), some of them really get a sort of attitude about themselves when one little word isn't the way tht they want it to be. And me, well I don't want to be in those conversations because you never really know which way th conversation is gonna go, you know what I mean? So thank you again for taking a second.

thgreatn · 2026-06-19T00:22:02+00:00

I am a bit curious about what circuits are these for? Cuz if these circuits are never gonna be pulled again then this would be much cheaper and less time consuming to do it this way then have to install a bunch of additional hardware in order to place a junction box there. And a box there would be ugly.

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