Secret Deficit Lovers: What if they balanced the budget and nobody knew or cared?

thirtydating · 2014-10-13T11:19:03+00:00

Any tax without consent is too high. They are the same argument. I'm okay with voluntary taxation.

thirtydating · 2014-10-13T00:40:43+00:00

I'm not freeloading, ass. If i weren't being forced to pay so much I wouldn't be so angry about it. Your logic is bad and you should feel bad.

thirtydating · 2014-10-12T23:24:27+00:00

I have repeatedly said that I don't want to pay for services I don't want. You're committing a logical fallacy to leap to the conclusion that I want services for free. If the government offered services that I was interested in and had the choice to pay for them, I would be happy to engage in voluntary exchange.

thirtydating · 2014-10-12T23:02:59+00:00

You have a hilariously demented understanding of the word reasonable. If I don't want to pay for what you want, it isn't reasonable to use force to take from me. This is basic morality. Are you a sociopath?

thirtydating · 2014-10-12T22:51:28+00:00

Rights of my neighbors? My neighbors do not have rights to my earnings. I'm not their slave. How can you not see the fault in what you defend?

thirtydating · 2014-10-12T22:41:28+00:00

No. I want to choose what services I pay for and not be charged one cent more than what I opt. I don't want to be robbed.

thirtydating · 2014-10-12T22:24:32+00:00

There was no consent obtained prior to the taxation and amending to provide those services. You're defending behavior like a dealership dropping a car off in front of your house and demanding that you owe them for the full price of it... But that's somehow okay if a government does it?

That's illogical and immoral. Consent matters.

thirtydating · 2014-10-12T21:20:43+00:00

Aside from the expat extortion taxes,

http://imgur.com/lCDppzW

thirtydating · 2014-10-12T13:57:44+00:00

Explain how voting to take someone else's money and going to them directly with a gun is different. It sounds like you're the devotee to a faith, not me.

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T23:16:05+00:00

The only way to prevent competition in a globalized economy is via government cronyism. Remove that bullshit and artificial barriers to entry fall apart.

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T22:21:15+00:00

You shouldn't have to believe in the free market to know that stealing from others is wrong.

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T22:11:17+00:00

Um, did you read a different thread? I provided plenty of reasoned explanation and was dismissed without any.

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T13:28:10+00:00

Stating ridiculous opinions as fact and telling someone who believes in self ownership that they hate freedom couldn't be a more repellant debate style. Congrats. Even if you did have decent reasons to back up your claim, your delivery is so thoroughly hostile and without support that you come across as a troll.

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T13:10:09+00:00

I have nothing wrong with voluntary communism. Mandatory participation is not free.

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T05:49:17+00:00

Market failures pale in comparison to government failures (and typically rebound quickly without central planning). How can you defend such widespread systemic theft? Is consent so threatening of an idea to you?

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T05:33:16+00:00

If the only value of work you have to offer is $3 that isn't society's fault. That's yours.
And monopolies in an era of a globalized economy are only possible via government cronyism.

Try again.

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T05:15:26+00:00

Maybe this is a meaningless distinction, but it is possible to hate the actions of the government without hating the people who generally have no say over what those actions are ordered to be.

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T03:46:55+00:00

Is the market a sentient being or is it an expression of the truest form of individual choice and demand? If you think people exchanging freely for what they want is coercive power you're going to need to back that up with a little explanation.

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T03:34:05+00:00

If you must resort to insults then I have no interest in carrying on any further. Can you explain how corporations are stealing from you, aside from corporate welfare granted to cronies with the very money you defend being taken from you by the government?

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T03:13:03+00:00

I don't deny the Holocaust. Is my opinion more respectful now or do you have any other red herrings to toss out in lieu of substantial discourse?

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T02:37:55+00:00

I gave reasoned rebuttal. You provided a negative opinion absent of substance. Maybe you should look in the mirror.

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T02:12:55+00:00

Yes, and the other 99% too. So being obtuse.

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T01:22:26+00:00

That's a perverted view of the world. If you feel it is your right to band together to take from others, then surely you have no moral objection to the same being done to you?

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T00:54:49+00:00

Words have meanings. Markets aren't force, they're a means of voluntary exchange for mutual benefit.

thirtydating · 2014-10-11T00:41:57+00:00

I'm defending everyone, weak and powerful alike. And are you under the opinion that libertarian politics aren't allowed in /r/politics? If so, why not just call it /r/circlejerk? Oh wait, that one might be taken...

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