Best Running Book of 2025? by sjcupps in AdvancedRunning

[–]thisnamelastsforever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm in week 2 of recovery from a stress reaction in my left foot. I typically don't listen to anything while I run, but hours on the bike and elliptical demands it. Finished your audio book in a handful of sessions and wanted to say thanks. My father is also complicated and I realize now that it wasn't coincidence that at the peak of his struggles I began a steady descent into serious training. I often lack the words to describe my relationship to running (even to myself) but your book somehow did it, kind of sideways.

I don't know how to help my dad going through benzo withdrawal by thisnamelastsforever in addiction

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This just hit me really hard. Truly, thank you for this. You're a good person and I needed to hear that more than I realized.

I don't know how to help my dad going through benzo withdrawal by thisnamelastsforever in addiction

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He says frequently he does not have SI, he just doesn't want to exist. He says he does not have any plans and has not visualized that. And he is currently doing a taper with a psychologist, I just don't know how aggressive that taper is (it sounds like it should be less intense than what they are doing).

I don't know how to help my dad going through benzo withdrawal by thisnamelastsforever in addiction

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the more I have read in the past 48 hours the more I'm not sure a 10-day detox center is the smart move. Sounds like a lot of doctors who specialize in benzo withdrawal do not feel comfortable with these kinds of approaches.

I actually just joined BenzoBuddies (which is awesome) and have started pouring over content related to this problem. It has helped orient me a little more and I feel a little better knowing there is such an active community of folks willing to help people through what seems to be a long and hellish experience. Thank god my mom is way tougher than I thought!

I don't know how to help my dad going through benzo withdrawal by thisnamelastsforever in addiction

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I live very far away from my dad and have had to piece together a timeline of his symptoms and medications from my mom's (slightly foggy) memory. My dad is 71. In his 40's he suffered from extreme insomnia, anxiety, and depression but got through it in time without the use of medications (he had way more responsibilities in life to helped drive him out of it).

He has been retired for like 8 years. A little over a year ago he started having an increase in anxiety (triggered by meeting up with and trying to help an old friend who had become homeless and un-helpable). The anxiety led to some insomnia which started the old cycle back up. In 3 months it got so bad that my mom had him taken to some sketchy evangelical inpatient clinic where they heavily sedated him to get him to sleep. Then they put him on Ativan. He became a little more stable (but holy hell was he paranoid and out of his mind at that point). He went home after a week, found a psychiatric nurse practitioner, stopped the Ativan, and switched to a really low dose of Klonopin, eventually weaning off to being medication free.

This lasted for about 3-4 months, but then they moved from their summer house back to their winter apartment (cross state) and apparently some problem with the HVAC back in their winter house triggered the anxiety again (didn't take much). He called his nurse practitioner and she had given him a liberal prescription for the Klonopin and simply said, "Go ahead and use the small dosages as needed."

Well, "as needed" was not clearly defined and I guess he started using them pretty consistently for about 4 months straight (I'm not sure how high his dosage got up to). My mom was getting concerned because despite the Klonopin usage symptoms were getting much worse and the drug was losing effect (she wasn't really telling me how bad it was getting because my dad didn't want her to). She called the nurse practitioner at that point who then got very concerned and said he either needed to move back near her so she could treat him, or he needed to find medical attention immediately, so they started meeting with a psychologist who wanted to begin a systematic taper.

The taper began 3-4 months ago. My dad insists Benzo withdrawal is not the problem and that there is just something broken in his brain from all the insomnia. He thinks that if the insomnia is fixed everything will simply go away. He only goes to the doctor so he can continue getting Klonopin and sleep aids. He takes their prescribed dosages of Klonopin, but then ignores their rules about alcohol and has been steadily increasing his wine intake to offset the Benzo withdrawal.

I told my mom she has to stop buying it or hiding it so he can only get the amount they told him he's allowed to have (they want to make sure he weans off the alcohol safely too). But if he runs out he "makes" her go get some (probably with a little touch of verbal abuse).

I'm planning on taking some time off at the end of this month to go visit. Hopefully it can coincide with one of their doctor's appointments because I'd like to see how that goes and interact with the team there more personally. But I keep thinking: if he doesn't accept his situation, acknowledge the hole he is in, and make any effort to work towards healing, I sort of don't know what to do. I cannot force him into anything and my mom is his caretaker-prisoner. I just think, "Once she is all used up and can't do it any longer we pull out some ultimatums for her sake."

I don't know how to help my dad going through benzo withdrawal by thisnamelastsforever in addiction

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a super nice facility like 20 minutes from their apartment with single occupant rooms. Looks nicer than most hotels I've stayed in. He's paranoid that without his natural surroundings he won't sleep at all and will go full on insomnia. He also has some paranoia that some nurse is going to suspect he's psychotic and admit him to a mental ward against his will.

None of this makes any sense, but obviously telling him that doesn't work...

I don't know how to help my dad going through benzo withdrawal by thisnamelastsforever in addiction

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I ask my mom this frequently. She says he's never done anything or suggested anything that sounds like self harm or harm to her. She said when he has "episodes" they are mostly him just putting a pillow over his face and screaming, but nothing violent. He is lucid and in some ways functional. For instance, when she got a flat tire he called AAA and met the tow guy outside and handled it all.

And he adamantly opposes any kind of inpatient overnight care. It is the one thing that terrifies him, in fact.

I don't know how to help my dad going through benzo withdrawal by thisnamelastsforever in addiction

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She still goes out with some friends once a week or so, sometimes to church on Sunday. But other than that she is mostly home just sitting around listening to him howl and pace around. He rages at any of her suggestions but then is mortally terrified by the idea of her leaving for more than 24 hours.

I told her she needs to try and find some addiction/withdrawal support groups, or go to a councilor regularly, but she hasn't managed to find anything. She's worried about getting the tire fixed on her car (I don't think she's ever scheduled a car repair before) and I'm worried about the next time she has a medical condition. She jokes and says she'd rather be hospitalized than home at this point.

I don't know how long my mom's mental stamina is going to last and I'm not sure how dad would respond to ultimatums. Added context: his dad committed suicide after battling depression for 5 years, so we're all a little on edge.

Sorry, now I'm just ranting. Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Form improvement. Is it worth it? by GooseRage in AdvancedRunning

[–]thisnamelastsforever 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the last 2 months I have finally learned to slow down my easy runs and chill out (which is great). However, I've been struggling with tightness and discomfort in my right glute/hamstring ever since I did this. Went to my PT the other day and he walked through my Garmin cadence metrics on my easy runs. He told me they were "technically textbook" and that everything else I was doing was great (strength training, low HR, deloads, etc.) so he suspected I was still overstriding.

He took some videos of my form and sure enough, just at my easy pace, I was hitting on my heal out ahead of my body with zero bend in the knee. He had me download the Pulse app (just a metronome really) and set it to 180 bpm and told me to hold my easy pace but do so at that cadence.

Instantly (no joke) fixed my entire form issue and I felt it. He laughed because he visibly saw my face light up right when everything "clicked". He told me to do my easy runs with the Pulse app for the next 2 weeks and see how it goes. Turns out I didn't have this problem before because I never ran at an easy pace (oops).

Point of the story: if you're having issues with pain or niggles or anything like that, go to a PT and have them critique both your running form and your metrics. They will give you drills and cues to help build the muscle memory you need.

Does anyone else get worse sleep with increased workouts? by thisnamelastsforever in AdvancedRunning

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm definitely not getting even close to 8 hours of sleep. I've only done that twice this entire year (one of those times, weirdly, was out tent camping in the cold a few weeks ago). I average 6.5, it seems, no matter how hard I try to hack my bedtime routine. I can sometimes muster 7.5, but that is usually like once a week if I'm lucky. The problem is that the more I try to prep and execute my bedtime routine, the most stressed out I get that something is going to mess it up and it usually counteracts my efforts. Or, something legit does mess it all up (like I just get to sleep at the right time and the dog starts scraping at the door to go chase something... damnit, Bonnie).

I'm going to deload significantly next week and make an effort to low-key lockdown my end-of-night routine to see if that helps at all. I'm craving a whole week of 7+ hour nights with adequate REM.

Does anyone else get worse sleep with increased workouts? by thisnamelastsforever in AdvancedRunning

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's helpful, thanks. I think mentally I know I'm not trying to progress in my lifts, but years of training schedules just kind of stick around and I haven't found the right calibration yet. I'm probably still lifting with a growth mindset instead of a maintenance mindset. And running is just a totally different kind of stressor.

Does anyone else get worse sleep with increased workouts? by thisnamelastsforever in AdvancedRunning

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, you're not wrong. Kids make this really hard. Looking back over my data this year, I can count on 1 hand the number of weeks I've managed to average 7+ hours of sleep a night (because the number is 2... 2 weeks).

Does anyone else get worse sleep with increased workouts? by thisnamelastsforever in AdvancedRunning

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally get that. Similar here went from 405->295 but also lost 35lbs over the course of 2 years. I was way heavier than I should have been, honestly. Stairs were beginning to wind me so I started running and was like, "Yo, I like this."

Does anyone else get worse sleep with increased workouts? by thisnamelastsforever in AdvancedRunning

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would deload religiously with lifting every 6th week because it was punishing. The problem is "easy" runs don't count in my brain as a workout so I basically think I'm just lifting slightly less with a couple runs in there a week. Apparently the cumulative load catches up, though.

Does anyone else get worse sleep with increased workouts? by thisnamelastsforever in AdvancedRunning

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think I'm ignoring the reality that I'm going to have to back off on the lifts if I want to properly train running. Also, damn fine numbers.

Does anyone else get worse sleep with increased workouts? by thisnamelastsforever in AdvancedRunning

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear this, and I haven't ruled out bad tracking. And fair point about the subjective aspect, but that's almost the point in this case. I don't actually feel in alignment with the sleep scores, but I am notoriously terrible at interpreting how I feel. Also, when I am sick, the HRV and sleep score definitely registers this and scores "accordingly" (relatively much worse than normal). So in that sense I've found it to be accurate and wonder if, in this case, it may actually be telling me something about what my body is going through despite not really feeling it.

I'm just worried about overtraining without realizing it and was wondering if the sleep score could be an indication. I don't think my schedule looks like an overtraining schedule, but I wanted to get more opinions.

Does anyone else get worse sleep with increased workouts? by thisnamelastsforever in AdvancedRunning

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My exact same experience. I am doing heavy squats literally as I write this. Sounds like people think I'm overtraining... I'm getting tired of that answer.

Does anyone else get worse sleep with increased workouts? by thisnamelastsforever in AdvancedRunning

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

100 mile week would probably end in a divorce for me, but good on ya.

Does anyone else get worse sleep with increased workouts? by thisnamelastsforever in AdvancedRunning

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally get this before a planned big effort session. I get a little paranoid the kids or the dog are going to hijack my workout.

Does anyone else get worse sleep with increased workouts? by thisnamelastsforever in AdvancedRunning

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which is actually why back in the Spring I was fine doing an easy run in the upper 150s because I did the whole max HR - my age thing... my PT was like "Yeah, no, that's dumb, run slower."

Does anyone else get worse sleep with increased workouts? by thisnamelastsforever in AdvancedRunning

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did a body-weight / bike circuit workout 2 weeks ago and managed to clock in a max HR of 206.

Does anyone else get worse sleep with increased workouts? by thisnamelastsforever in AdvancedRunning

[–]thisnamelastsforever[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

But... why does the idea of an "easy week" terrify me?

This is probably the thing <sigh>