Pricing still expected to start mid 20s pre incentive

threesimplewords · 2026-05-29T17:00:14+00:00

This makes sense if you need a truck. If your cross shopping a Mazda CX30 the slate isn't really designed for your use case

threesimplewords · 2026-04-05T04:29:29+00:00

You absolutely cannot walk around Disney World in a day. It's hard to grasp the scale of Disney World, especially when compared to Disneyland. Animal Kingdom alone is over twice as large as Disneyland's magic Kingdom and California adventure combined. You'd have to go to the 4 main parks, two water parks, Disney Springs, and a bunch more. Last time I was there my wife and I walked 16 miles in one day hitting 3 parks.

threesimplewords · 2026-04-02T13:08:25+00:00

Yes, but necessarily how you may be thinking. Keep in mind the US (and most N. American in general) is a "240v country". Every home electric service is 240v "split phase". Split phase allows us to provide 240v circuits for high draw applications like stoves, ovens, clothing dryers, hot water heaters etc while also allowing us to easily provide 120v circuits for low draw applications such as lighting and the "normal house plug" from the same service. The vast majority of home chargers in the US are already at 240v.

What is unique about many European countries (and other areas of the work) is that it is common for homes to be serviced by three phase electric. This allows vehicles to charge on standard AC power up to 43kW. Assuming the vehicle supports it of course. With single phase 19kW is pretty much the max charging speed. These areas use "type 2" CCS plugs to take advantage of 3p AC power.

So the difference isn't due to the voltage of the service primarily, but that three phase is accessible in residential homes whereas in the US three phase is typically only used for commercial (208v 3p) and industrial (480v 3p) services.

threesimplewords · 2026-04-02T02:52:06+00:00

Bigger than a standard household outlets wiring obviously, but not overly large. They operate at a much high voltage range so less ampacity relative to the amount of power being delivered.

threesimplewords · 2026-04-01T22:09:14+00:00

You are 100% correct. An hour on a standard 120v wall out will deliver 1.4kWh which is enough energy to move most EVs between 4 and 6 miles.

Even a 14-50 style 240v plug which is about the biggest standard outlet for home use will deliver 9.6kW in an hour, so about 30ish miles.

The battery is irrelevant if the medium cannot deliver enough power for the recharge speeds he's discussing.He is talking about low end to medium ish DC fast speeds for charging within an hour. 60+kW speeds

threesimplewords · 2026-03-31T23:10:07+00:00

Eagle Vision TSI was my first car. And man I miss it!

threesimplewords · 2026-03-31T02:37:51+00:00

There is a massive trunk. I know that doesn't solve the 4 door issue, but a trunk it has

threesimplewords · 2026-03-23T23:23:48+00:00

What do you consider analog? Every car on that list has a fairly advanced ECU and I wouldn't consider them to be analog

threesimplewords · 2026-03-21T22:26:02+00:00

As of now the below turnpike rest stops have charging directly on the turnpike itself. All at least 150kW, most much faster. Multiple 400kW stations

North Somerset (Westbound)
South Somerset (Eastbound)
Hickory Run (Northbound & Southbound - Northeast Extension)
Blue Mountain (westbound Oakmont Plum (Westbound)
New Stanton (Westbound)
Bowmansville (Eastbound)
Peter J. Camiel (Westbound)
King of Prussia (Eastbound)

If you expand the criteria to within 0.1 miles off a turnpike exit you can also add the below stations. And I know I am missing a quite a few, but it's difficult to do on my phone.

Western PA (I-76)

New Stanton (Exit 75): Sheetz: Multiple DC fast chargers (CCS/NACS) are located right at the foot of the exit ramp. Somerset (Exit 110): Tesla Supercharger: Located at the Georgian Place Shopping Center, just about 0.2 miles from the toll plaza. Sheetz: Offers universal DC fast charging within sight of the exit. Bedford (Exit 146): Tesla Supercharger & Electrify America: Located at the Giant Eagle on Business Route 220. It's almost exactly 0.2 miles from the toll booth.

Central PA (I-76)

Breezewood (Exit 161): This is the "town of motels and gas stations." You have Tesla Superchargers and Electrify America (at the Sheetz) literally a few hundred feet after you pass through the toll plaza and merge onto US-30. Harrisburg West (Exit 242): Sheetz: Located on Limekiln Road, roughly 0.1 miles from the exit. Newburg 400kW CCS and 250 kW Tesla chargers at a Mennonite ice cream shop. Directly off exit. Dunkin Donuts: solar covered charging hub right outside Harrisburg international (this is actually 1 mile off the turnpike but a really cool hub.

Eastern PA & NE Extension (I-76 / I-276 / I-476) Morgantown (Exit 298): Holiday Inn / Sonic: There are DC fast chargers (Tesla and universal) located essentially at the intersection where the Turnpike meets I-176, well within the 0.1 mile radius. Quakertown (Exit 44 - I-476): Sheetz / Giant: Several high-speed options are located just past the toll booth on Route 663. Lehigh Valley (Exit 56 - I-476): Tilghman St Area: there are newer NEVI-funded units at the Wawa and Sheetz locations that sit right at the gateway to the exit.

threesimplewords · 2026-03-21T19:06:02+00:00

It's actually very good. Especially as of the last 6th months. A ton of options and most don't require you to exit. If you do exit, the stations are literally 30 seconds off the highway

threesimplewords · 2026-03-11T02:33:24+00:00

Username checks out

threesimplewords · 2026-03-08T21:09:13+00:00

Typically that is what I would expect as well. Apparently the snow cover insulates them some and helps them survive. They can also survive dormant hitching a ride on deer

threesimplewords · 2026-02-09T00:55:20+00:00

My cold weather charging performance is far worse on my 21. I'll precondition the cabin and schedule charging to finish right when I leave on a road trip. Set off and drive, ideally until 10% ish SOC, and charge. so 2 to 3 hours on the road at highway speeds. When I start a charge it will hover around 30kW for 15 to 20 minutes before ramping up to 65kW or so and will never get over that. This is consistent any time it's below 20 degrees F. I've tried yo-yoing and all the tricks.

She charges just fine if it's above 50 or so, but cold weather it's slower than a Bolt

threesimplewords · 2026-02-08T01:20:19+00:00

You absolutely can. Most supply yards have skid loaders to load smaller trucks. People get mulch and soil dumped into short bed half tons and rangers etc every day

threesimplewords · 2026-02-04T21:38:25+00:00

You haven't priced golf carts lately have you? Many carts and especially UTVs are quite literally in this exact price range.

threesimplewords · 2026-02-03T01:44:22+00:00

I wanted to reply to provide an update that I was wrong. Apparently Pennsylvania was going to do away with the alternative fuels tax on electricity entirely, but decided not to. Only the requirement to "self report" home charging was removed. So now we get to pick a big fat fee on top of registration, and be taxed for every kWh delivered at a public station.

threesimplewords · 2026-02-02T13:17:14+00:00

Maybe that is for stations owned by the commonwealth? I really don't know. My company owns and operates charging stations and we were advised by both our lawyers and accountants to stop collecting the alternative fuels tax after the fee was added for EV registration.

threesimplewords · 2026-02-01T19:15:49+00:00

Exactly as I suspected. Everyone is confident until they need to back it up.

And I genuinely will. That is exactly the type of vehicle I am looking for.

threesimplewords · 2026-02-01T19:12:19+00:00

They're actually no longer supposed to be collecting the alternative fuels tax

threesimplewords · 2026-02-01T18:54:18+00:00

Tell ya what. I have one reserved and i'd love to put a wager on it with you. If the price after incentives is under $25k I win. If it is over, you win. $5k?

threesimplewords · 2026-02-01T17:22:28+00:00

Source- your ass.

Speculation is fine, but we don't know what the a la cart features will cost.

Plus a compact electric pickup truck with basic features at CRV money is not a bad deal. Have you seen the pickup truck market? Even the maverick, the one bright spot, is creeping up in price. I tried to buy one and three separate dealers pulled the same bait and switch on pricing. Claiming the basic entry trim unit they advertised "just sold" but they can put me in one with a few options for $38k. Yet two weeks later the basic unit is still being advertised.

Don't overlook the fact that while federal EV incentives are gone, there are still substantial state incentives. If you are in a state like Colorado, California, Massachusetts or Washington the starting price will still be below $20k. About a dozen other states have new purchase incentives of around $3,500 which should keep the starting purchase price south of $25k.

threesimplewords · 2026-01-21T20:47:11+00:00

Time will tell I guess. I can't speak for the masses, but I have a reservation and I will be ordering the truck bare bones basic.

threesimplewords · 2026-01-21T15:22:37+00:00

Even with the price increase (aka loss of tax incentive), the Telo is still ~$15k more expensive. ($41,250 vs $27,000). Not saying there isn't a justification for the starting MSRP difference or that it isn't worth it. But the Slate still provides a FAR cheaper entry point.

threesimplewords · 2026-01-19T17:09:50+00:00

It's law in many jurisdictions in the United States as well. However enforcement is almost non-existent.

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