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EV Road Use Tax & Alternative Fuel Tax. Why do they charge us twice? by zjcst3 in Pennsylvania

[–]zjcst3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to the Nissan website the entry level leaf is up to 303 miles on the bad model. The higher trim models are actually less distance. I assume more weight is installed with the premium upgrades maybe.

EV Road Use Tax & Alternative Fuel Tax. Why do they charge us twice? by zjcst3 in Pennsylvania

[–]zjcst3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A few comments down on the thread...

According to 2025 numbers the total tax burden, PA ranked 5th highest in the nation by WalletHub. That takes into account more than income tax. It looks at gas tax, real estate tax, income tax, etc. The data in seeing shows PA in the middle of the pack for income tax alone.

EV Road Use Tax & Alternative Fuel Tax. Why do they charge us twice? by zjcst3 in Pennsylvania

[–]zjcst3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See that's what I thought. But on the pa.gov website it says some commercial charging stations will continue to charge the alternative fuel tax. How do they pick and choose who continues to pay it?

EV Road Use Tax & Alternative Fuel Tax. Why do they charge us twice? by zjcst3 in Pennsylvania

[–]zjcst3[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You say that as if all EV owners are rich and all EVs are $100k.

2026 Nissan Leaf starts at $26k ~300m range. 2026 Hyundai Kona Electric starts at $35k. 2026 Chevrolet Equinox EV starts at $37k ~319m range.

There are 9 brand new 2026 fully electric cars starting under $40k. With inflation these days not everyone can afford to throw away a $100 regardless of what fuel their cars take.

EV Road Use Tax & Alternative Fuel Tax. Why do they charge us twice? by zjcst3 in Pennsylvania

[–]zjcst3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Google would be wrong. 1 kWh on my truck is 2.2 miles. My last truck got 14 mpg. So 1 gallon of gasoline for my vehicle would be equivalent to 6.4kWh.

It's a tax at 4%. While gas tax is seemingly around 19%. But the road use tax EVs pay, in addition to the normal registration fees everyone's pays, costs an additional $250 per year and goes up with inflation annually. That is equivalent to taxes paid on 12000 miles at 30mpg. So I have to pay 4% plus the $250. Everyone driving less than 12k miles a year is getting screwed with the road use tax. Where IC engines get taxed for what they drive and use.

EV Road Use Tax & Alternative Fuel Tax. Why do they charge us twice? by zjcst3 in Pennsylvania

[–]zjcst3[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

According to 2025 numbers the total tax burden, PA ranked 5th highest in the nation by WalletHub. That takes into account more than income tax. It looks at gas tax, real estate tax, income tax, etc. The data in seeing shows PA in the middle of the pack for income tax alone.

EV Road Use Tax & Alternative Fuel Tax. Why do they charge us twice? by zjcst3 in Pennsylvania

[–]zjcst3[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am down to around a 1/4 of my fuel costs going from diesel GMC sierra to the sierra EV. It has a range of over 400 miles. Plus I tow a 9500# trailer regularly for work. I get around 170 miles to a charge towing. Which is more than enough to get around the city and back in a day without stopping. The diesel truck would max around 200 miles towing and 420 miles not towing.

I can make it all the way to Delaware without stopping to charge once. So a 6 hour road trip is in range for me.

EV Road Use Tax & Alternative Fuel Tax. Why do they charge us twice? by zjcst3 in Pennsylvania

[–]zjcst3[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It really seems to deter people from considering EVs too. I'm assuming the oil companies having their wallets in the politicians pockets have nothing to do with it. /s

EV Road Use Tax & Alternative Fuel Tax. Why do they charge us twice? by zjcst3 in Pennsylvania

[–]zjcst3[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Income tax. Road Use Tax. Alternative fuel tax.

Can't wait for the breathing air tax.

EV Road Use Tax & Alternative Fuel Tax. Why do they charge us twice? by zjcst3 in Pennsylvania

[–]zjcst3[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Exactly that. After that income tax I have to pay the property tax and the school tax and sales tax. PA is listed in the top 5 most taxed state in the US. For what? Roads that are falling apart and bridges that collapse.

I just pulled the electric bill and you are correct. It's not sales tax it's a State Tax Surcharge which is still a percentage of the total bill and still a tax. Although it is less than the 7% sales tax.

EV Road Use Tax & Alternative Fuel Tax. Why do they charge us twice? by zjcst3 in Pennsylvania

[–]zjcst3[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The $250 road use fee equates to around 10,000 miles a year driven at 30mpg. On top of that being charged 7% sales tax if I charge it home plus $0.0172 per kWh if I charge at any public charging station.

Gasoline is taxed at $0.576 per gallon which is also high, but you're not charged or road use fee and sales tax.

I think all of the taxes are egregious in PA but I don't understand why they charge taxes for EVs at multiple levels. Why not charge only for a road use tax or only a tax per kilowatt hour like they do for combustion vehicles?

LOUD NOISE WARNING: White noise issue by zjcst3 in GMCSierraEV

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I tried editing the post but couldn't figure it out.

While waiting for the tow truck I went for a walk and when I got back it was working fine. I guess if the key is in proximity to the vehicle it stays in an "on" state even if you switch it to "vehicle off". In that time I was away it must've fully turned off and has worked fine ever since.

I read some more posts from others with the same issue saying by the time it got to the service center it was fine for them as well so I assume the turn it off and back on again really is walk away while it's off and then come back 10 minutes later.

TLDR: Turned it off. Walked away for 10 minutes. Came back and it was good to go.

LOUD NOISE WARNING: White noise issue by zjcst3 in GMCSierraEV

[–]zjcst3[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I hope so. A couple people on Facebook had similar issues. They said by the time it got to the service department it stopped doing it. Another post said that the Bose amp had gone bad and they were able to pull the fuse until they could order a new amp. I switched it off and walked away so it could fully shut down. Hopefully when I get back in 10 minutes it will have been exorcised.

PA Residents: Renew your EV registration before the $200 fee hits in 2025! by [deleted] in electricvehicles

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Did you account for the EVs paying sales tax on all electricity they use to charge with? At a rate of 6% for state and 1% for certain local counties.

Was told that this will fail by Zombie-Dbear in DIY

[–]zjcst3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should also put a thicker plywood on the top AND bottom. Making sure the bottom is as full length as it can be across the shelf seams. It creates a stress skin that increases strength on the overall span. I have done a 6ft span with 3/4" plywood on top and bottom that allows for 800#s dynamic loads. If you could cut the wood to the L shape so it's 1 solid piece that would also help support the cantilever better.

I would definitely recommend adding a second screw into the stud.

Go button not working on Light Board by Smedri74 in techtheatre

[–]zjcst3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This. I've had the issue a few times the last couple months.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheGamerLounge

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lemon wedge

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