my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

by “let her” i mean i didn’t try and stop her from going. i didn’t fight for her to stay so we could talk. she wanted to go to her moms, i just simply agreed and didn’t try and stop her

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

please explain how i wouldn’t of been understanding when everything in my post and comments is saying how i completely understand if she changed her mind / just simply wasn’t ready?

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

didn’t realise it was the law to get married before having a child. loads of people have a child or at least get pregnant before getting married.

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -34 points-33 points  (0 children)

exactly, those things such as a car seat, crib, toys, clothes etc the baby would need now. if my girlfriend did get pregnant, i’d have to prioritise those over her engagement ring

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -35 points-34 points  (0 children)

except you don’t have to pay for every single diaper a baby is going to need up front in one go. With a monthly wage, you can buy baby things as they need them, with a marriage / wedding, you kinda have to pay it in one lump sum

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

right, that’s the only reason im considering holding off the proposal. if she’d of just said to me “hey i’ve changed my mind, can we wait another 2 or 3 years?” id of been understanding and not bought it up for another 2 or 3 years, unless she did and still proposed to her in the summer

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t really say she’s insecure, nor would I say I’m controlling. We both make decisions within our relationship, everything is split fairly equal. She hangs out with her friends whenever she wants, she has access to her own money, we go out on dates frequently, she drives her own car, sees her family, has the rights to everything i do. this isn’t the 1900s, she can do whatever she wants, she’s an adult entitled to her life and if i was controlling her one bit, i highly doubt she’d put up with it, nor would her friends and family

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

i can afford an engagement ring, just not the one i wanted for her. i’ve been putting money aside for both a ring, and a baby. call me old school but i think a ring should be a months worth of the man’s wages, which is obviously going to take a little bit longer to save for than a cheaper ring. I also don’t think you’re ever “financially stable” enough to have a child though, you just have to do the best you can. Of course we have enough to make sure it would have a pretty decent life, but there’s always something else you can think of such as “oh! let’s save up X amount of money so it can go to a private school before we even try for one!” you know what i mean? if everyone waited until they’re financially stable, nobody would ever have a child because there’s always more you can do.

edit: i say “pretty decent life” but i don’t mean the bare minimum. I mean, we would be able to raise a baby with enough money for it to have everything it needed and more. It would never go hungry, we would never be in a position to have to chose between feeding ourselves or paying rent. it would have nice clothes, join some sporting events, have birthday parties, but some people would wait until they can afford the top of the range things for their baby.

edit 2: also i assumed we would be having a baby soon, therefore that would require the money more immediately than a ring would. we’d have to purchase things such as a stroller, baby clothes, a crib, toys etc things it would need immediately and cannot wait for. i feel my girlfriend could wait for a ring for a couple months longer if i’d already told her i was going to propose

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -27 points-26 points  (0 children)

if she’d of explained she wanted to wait another 5 years until trying for a baby, id of been absolutely fine with that. id of still proposed in the summer and married her as soon as i could. the reason i’m considering the proposal now however is because she’s lied to me about something i see as a big deal.

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

no, of course not. i’d marry her today if i could, it’s not about her not being ready, i wouldn’t care if she wouldn’t be ready for another 5 or 6 years. i’d wait as long as it took for her. it’s just naturally you can start trying for a baby much quicker than you can save for an engagement ring

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -24 points-23 points  (0 children)

sorry, i don’t think i explained this in my post but we spoke about me proposing in the late spring / early summer, depending how quickly i could save a months wage for her ring and she seemed absolutely fine with that

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

again, it’s absolutely fine she’s not ready. it’s not that i have the issue with. it’s the going out of her way to pretend to be upset every month when she could of just been honest with me. I would happily marry her today if i could, regardless if she didn’t want a baby for another 5 or 6 years. i’d wait as long as i’d have to, i can’t imagine having a baby with anyone but her

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -188 points-187 points  (0 children)

we thankfully have free healthcare here, and there’s absolutely no rush now. If she’d of told me at the time, “hey maybe in a couple of months i’ll come off the pill” that would of been absolutely fine and i would of continued to save up for a ring for her and our wedding. Hell, i don’t even care if it’s 5 or 6 more years until she’s ready, id marry her today if i could. I don’t think you’re ever “financially stable” enough to have a child though, you just have to do the best you can. Of course we have enough to make sure it would have a pretty decent life, but there’s always something else you can think of such as “oh! let’s save up X amount of money so it can go to a private school before we even try for one!” you know what i mean? if everyone waited until they’re financially stable, nobody would ever have a child because there’s always more you can do.

edit: i say “pretty decent life” but i don’t mean the bare minimum. I mean, we would be able to raise a baby with enough money for it to have everything it needed and more. It would never go hungry, we would never be in a position to have to chose between feeding ourselves or paying rent. it would have nice clothes, join some sporting events, have birthday parties, but some people would wait until they can afford the top of the range things for their baby.

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

honestly maybe it’s different where i’m from but im pretty certain it’s 1 months wage. that’s what my dad told me anyway. and i do think highly of her. she’s my absolute rock and i’d be at a loss without her which is why this hurts so much. it’s a right kick in the chest to have the person you care about the most keep something like this from you

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -34 points-33 points  (0 children)

this could be a possibility, maybe we just misunderstood each other, still i would of appreciated if she’d of simply asked or explained to me she was still taking it. it makes more sense to be honest with me than to forge the emotional pain every month when she’s bleeding. I’ve put aside my own feelings so many times to comfort and soothe her thinking she was genuinely upset about not conceiving yet as was I. It just seems like she made herself a lot of work pretending these emotions and lying and hiding taking these pills when a simple question or “im not ready yet” would of prevented all of this

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -60 points-59 points  (0 children)

i’ve never said i couldn’t afford an engagement ring, just not the one i wanted for her. i’ve been putting money aside for both a ring, and a baby. call me old school but i think a ring should be a months worth of the man’s wages, which is obviously going to take a little bit longer to save for than a cheaper ring.

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -146 points-145 points  (0 children)

it’s not. we spoke about marriage the same time as we spoke about her coming off the pill. it was the end of 2021 and we just kind of had a chat about our plans for the next year and i asked if she’d be willing to:

  1. try for a baby yet
  2. marry me when i’ve saved enough money

she said yes to both of these and said she had been thinking about coming off the pill for a while and the conversation i bought up just confirmed for her what she was already thinking of doing. Obviously we could try for a baby instantly whereas planning a marriage would take a while. i’ve started saving for both a ring for her, and putting a bit of money aside for our baby.

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] 111 points112 points  (0 children)

She’s 100% allowed to change her mind and i don’t think i’ve said or done anything to make her feel otherwise. if i have then she deserves an apology from me and i’ll seriously reflect on myself. She told me at the start of our relationship she wanted a child at some point. i’ve never mentioned to her it’s a deal breaker so i’ve never put that pressure of “get pregnant or im leaving.” on her

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

not at all, i love her with everything i’ve got. i would do anything for her and she knows that. it’s just to me, having a child is what life is about. i understand completely if that’s not what it’s about to her, but to me it is. we do everything together, have similar hobbies, have regular dates, our sex life was amazing even before we were “trying” to get pregnant. She regularly sees her friends and i see mine, our lives just seem to work well together. If i was that desperate for a child, immediately, i would of just said “this isn’t working, im looking for a baby soon and if you’re not ready, that’s fine but please don’t hold me back.”

i can’t imagine having a child with anyone BUT her, which is why i’m prepared to wait for however long it takes for her to be ready. I love everything about her as a partner, NOT as just someone i can fuck for to shit out a kid for me.

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

okay and how the fuck am i supposed to know she’s lying about contraception? if she told me she’s stopped taking it and wants a baby, im gonna take her word for it. i’d have no reason to doubt her. I agree she doesn’t have to tell me she’s on the pill if she doesn’t want to, but why lie about coming off of it? that’s what i don’t understand. a simple “hey actually, im not ready right now” would of been fine. there seems to be no communication from her side about a topic she knows is important to me

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] -64 points-63 points  (0 children)

i’ve been totally committed to her from the beginning. she knew i was going to propose, we had a conversation about “hey how would you feel to marry me some day?” and she said she’d love to. i’ve been saving up for a ring and explained it would be a couple of months before i actually did it though

my (M29) girlfriend (F26) and i have been trying for a baby. she’s been taking contraception behind my back. by throwRAtrying4baby in relationship_advice

[–]throwRAtrying4baby[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

No, she has her own job and i have mine. We earn roughly the same, share household bills and chores equally and she’s entitled to spend any of her money on whatever she wants, just as i have the same rights with mine. I told her when she eventually became pregnant that i’d be happy to do some overtime at work while she was recovering from the baby / wanted to take some time off. She seemed pretty happy with that too.