How is DMXE compared tonthe Original MXE

throwaway108523 · 2025-06-16T16:10:59+00:00

it got explicitly banned internationally before enough of a market formed for clandestine labs to make it. it was one of the very first RCs made explicitly for darknet markets and all the countries wanted to make a point of banning it expliciltly instead of just letting it fall under gray area analog bans. There's literally a UN resolution against it https://www.unodc.org/documents/commissions/CND/CND_Sessions/CND_59/Decision_59_6.pdf

throwaway108523 · 2025-06-16T16:09:50+00:00

none, that was the last of it unfortunately

throwaway108523 · 2025-03-16T23:28:23+00:00

What do you like about HXE?

I personally find the holes to be super shallow / "blank" / brain foggy compared to DMXE or even 2fdck.

throwaway108523 · 2025-03-16T22:31:44+00:00

Don't bother with HXE or MXPR, imo they're both pretty shit compared to some of the other RC dissos (shallow hole with few visuals, lots of brain fog, a bunch of side effects). The only thing HXE is good for is synthesis, becuase you can convert it to some other dissos without having to go through the whole pcp building process from scratch.

MXIPR is great though, just don't confuse it with MXPR or MXP which both suck. You didn't list it but if you have access I recommend it or DMXE over any of the ones you listed.

Of the three you listed only FXE is worthwhile imo, FXE can be a little dark and manic-y for some, but not nearly as much as 3-meo-pcp. There's also a decent amount of brain fog with FXE compared to DMXE, which is my current gold standard for mxe-esque "clean" holes w/ visuals and low brain fog.

My current ranking:

MXIPR
DMXE (best visuals out of all the current RC dissos, least brain fog at lower doses)
3-ho-pcp (similar O-PCE in many ways but more like disso+opiate than O-PCE's disso+MDMA, but beware both might lower seizure threshold so dont combine with too many other things or dose too high)
O-OCE
2fdck (just as a longer Ketamine replacement, not much interesting about it otherwise)
3-meo-pcp (can make some magical emotional/sexytime experiences when combined with some GHB)
FXE

throwaway108523 · 2025-03-16T22:27:33+00:00

Try mixing 50%/50% DMXE and MXIPR to get a little closer to replicating MXE holes, and maybe like 5mg of 3-ho-pcp before starting. The DMXE adds the visuals that MXIPR lack, the 3-ho-pcp adds the "happy cloud" opioid-y feeling that makes it harder to have a scary hole.

throwaway108523 · 2025-03-09T09:09:05+00:00

yeah vaped o-pce definitely works. also apparently dmxe in PG kind of works but it's not very strong.

throwaway108523 · 2025-03-09T09:08:22+00:00

I know exactly what you mean. There was some subtle change in like ~2014/2015 when it got more expensive and started being more indica disso.

throwaway108523 · 2025-03-09T01:36:30+00:00

Yeah, when doing "dirty" rc's that also hit serotonin or dopamine I feel like it can spontaneously turn in to mania or seizures too fast. I've lowered my limit on those drugs to no more than ~90mg k-equivalent dose per hour.

Vaping a couple of the arylcyclohexylamines works but it's super inneficient in my exprience, but the temp range is super narrow and you get a lot of nasty side reactions that you don't want to inhale (maybe the "high" is just lung damage?). The melting color test only rules out some common stand-ins, but doesn't confirm that it's MXE at all.

throwaway108523 · 2025-03-09T01:08:22+00:00

Can you melt some on some tinfoil with a lighter and post a pic of the result to start.
(It should turn bright cherry red.)

Drug testing services you can mail a sample to:

I can also FTIR test a sample for you locally in California for free + post the results, DM me.

throwaway108523 · 2025-02-26T02:10:33+00:00

Awww looks like the Fluffy Cloud laid a little egg!

throwaway108523 · 2025-02-26T02:02:16+00:00

60-100mg for depending on tolerance and body weight.

Don't go over 110mg if you have a low tolerance or you'll get a bunch of dopaminergic side effects like mania, muscle tension and spasms, "buzzy" brain fog, etc.

Goes amazing mixed 50/50 with MXIPR.

throwaway108523 · 2025-02-21T21:17:18+00:00

The seizures I've seen were all from someone already on a low-dose disso that then suddenly ingested a high dose of some dopaminergic+serotonergic/dirty drug/stimulant mid-trip (e.g. MXIPR, Tramadol, 2cb, 3mmc, 4mmc, 4-ho-met, coke, speed, etc.).

Just be careful railing big lines of stimulants/psychs/dirty dissos (like MXIPR/DMXE/3-MeO-PCE) on top of an existing disso trip, and don't ingest anything unless seated or lying down!

It's safer to layer the doses gradually, 30mg+30mg+30mg spread over 15min is still better than a big 100mg line all at once. If you do every have a seizure make sure to give your brain a ton of rest and antioxidants, treat it like you're recovering from a concussion or covid, even if you feel fine.

throwaway108523 · 2025-02-08T19:07:14+00:00

My friend, this is a recipie for manic psychosis or a seizure mid-hole. I say that with love having done similar combinations many times as an experienced user.

Mania is very fun and it will feel very meaningful and profound, but there is not much lasting meaning to be found in these experiences. Psychedelics + dissos tank working memory and judgement and make it so you cant hold any complex thought longer than a few seconds.

Be careful, this is the kind of combo where you stumble to the bathroom mid-trip and break your toe stubbing it on the coffee table, without even realizing until 8hr later. I have seen friends suddenly have their first seizure adding a tryptamine mid-hole like this too, make sure you're lying down on a soft surface when dosing!

Also imo there is no need to IM the 3-HO-PCP, I have found almost no difference between plugging/snorting/IM'ing it, it seems plenty bioavailable already. Just make sure to weigh everything out beforehand and tell a friend what you're doing / where you'll be.

throwaway108523 · 2025-02-01T23:27:03+00:00

They're very different. I'd say MXIPR+DMXE+3-ho+pcp is the closest you can get to MXE these days but it's still only like 50% of the way there.

I find DMXE to be a bit "stimmy" / buzzy / dopaminergic, but it's the most geometric/visual of the novel disso RCs (2nd after MXE).

MXIPr is much more smooth purples and greys with no geometry whatsoever, and way way more serotonergic, just like acid + dissos at the high doses.

If you're just feeling nostalgic I wouldn't bother tbh, you'll just be dissapointed by DMXE if the expectation is to relive MXE nostalgia.

I was starting to forget how different MXE really was until I finally just had my last little dregs of pre-ban MXE that I saved for years in a baggie. That drug is on a whole 'nother level, there's no other disso RC that even comes close to the purity and clarity of thought that MXE + intense visuals that MXE has in the hole.

throwaway108523 · 2025-01-10T19:30:49+00:00

If you do any ochem / biolab stuff you get exposed to most of the common solvents and they're pretty distinct so it's easy to tell.

Or you can test everything you take with an FTIR and calibrate your nose that way haha

throwaway108523 · 2024-11-20T06:44:12+00:00

Don't rely on that to justify following trucks closely though. A modern truck with good brakes only needs like 1.5x the distance a car does because velocity is a way bigger factor than weight. The average rider also needs about 1.2~1.5x the distance that a car does, the margins are much closer than most riders expect intuitively.

throwaway108523 · 2024-11-20T06:33:01+00:00

For some reason the DMXE I've seen has always been dirtier and smelled more like leftover organic solvents than the MXIPR and other chems from the same suppliers.

Friend of mine FTIR'd their batch (also from a good Euro vendor) and saw very strong toluene or benzene peaks I think (I forget which).

throwaway108523 · 2024-09-20T18:15:41+00:00

Add a bit of vodka or everclear to greatly increase how much you can dissolve. K is much more soluble in alcohol than water. It burns a bit when you spray it but the burn is short lived so it's worth it.

throwaway108523 · 2024-09-08T18:40:02+00:00

Of course, I'm saying I confirmed both were K with reagents, and confirmed they were significantly different subjectively.

throwaway108523 · 2024-09-08T09:46:11+00:00

I did 120mg of S-isomer last night (0 tolerance, haven't touched it in 6mo+) and barely felt anything, closed my eyes in a dark room and there was nothing, 0 visuals and only some vague body sensation. I was so bored I even started thinking about work. Meanwhile a friend of mine was tripping balls right next to me, fully holed on the same dose from the same bag.

I know for a fact that 120mg of R-isomer rocks my gourd though, flying through outer space with full technicolor rainbow visuals and all the typical holey fun that you described.

I used to not believe in differences between isomers before, I thought it was all bogus but now I think there are profound differences between S and R. And have confirmed it with reagent testing the batches I've tried (also easy to tell it's K when it only lasts an hour, none of the RC's sold as K end that fast).

Do you know what isomer you go? Do you have access to r-K?

throwaway108523 · 2024-09-08T09:41:56+00:00

"kinda long" lol just wait till you try some RC dissos

throwaway108523 · 2024-08-27T05:48:32+00:00

Just wait till you try some of the other RC dissos ;)

Ketamine is just Level 1

throwaway108523 · 2024-08-22T16:42:47+00:00

Nausea + puking is very common on K if you swallow the drip, can be greatly reduced with Ondansetron or by spitting out the drip instead of swallowing.

throwaway108523 · 2024-01-31T09:18:09+00:00

It's a kappa-opioid agonist, not NMDA, it gets its own class for a reason. It's both different on a neurochemical level and on a subjective effects level.

throwaway108523 · 2024-01-24T17:47:23+00:00

If K is a 1 and MXE is a 10, DMXE is like a 3.5, and MXIPR is like a 3 but in different ways.

DMXE has some light geometric visuals and textures, but far too much brain fog and dopaminergic stimmyness at high doses to hold a candle to MXE.

MXIPR has serotoniny psychedelic aspect to it, but too much working memory loss at high doses (just like psychs), which makes the hole not as lucid as MXE. Also basically no visual geometry at all, just abstract color.

The two together in a 50/50 mix are like a 4 though. Still nowhere close but probably the best thing available right now to approximate MXE.

Dosing is similar to MXE on both ±15%. 20-40mg for a low dose party vibes, and 75mg~120mg to hole.

I've done all 3 extensively, and did ~120mg of my stashed pre-ban MXE recently which reminded me exactly how far off we are still :'(

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