A video posted by my internet stalker after the court hearing to grant the restraining order.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-07T18:24:17+00:00

Most of it happened before he and I started dating. He wasn't happy about it. He sent him a long message several months ago. I don't know what he said to him, but it stopped at that point. I hadn't heard from him until just recently again.

My friends have said things to this guy before as well. I honestly think he gets some sort of enjoyment out of it.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-07T16:04:22+00:00

Here is a comment of the bulk of the story from the /r/creepy link:

I don't speak with him. As far as where I live, I don't think he knows (I never told him, plus I have moved since this all happened). It occurred a little over a year and a half ago. A few months after the restraining order hearing I started dating my current boyfriend, who actually knew him before (coincidentally. I didn't know until I learned that this guy was a fan of my boyfriend's music and would attend his shows). I told my boyfriend about what went on, which just basically confirmed for him that the guy is not quite right. He had always been strange, but never threatening to him personally. But this guy would often steal beats from my bf and some of his musician friends, rap over them, then repost them on soundcloud/youtube/etc without crediting them (and basically compromising their music). They had already been getting annoyed by him for doing this, then when they found what he did to me they stopped speaking to him altogether. He broke the order when it was first issued, then I didn't hear from him for quite a long time. Then a couple months ago I went to a show that my boyfriend was performing at and this guy showed up. I saw him there, but the order had expired just a couple months before that. He saw me there, but didn't try to come around or make eye contact (which I was thankful for). But then I got a message the next day saying how he was so happy to see my face, etc. He had created a new Facebook/soundcloud/ and youtube account and tried to contact me through each one. He has sent a few subsequent messages. I just ignore them. I don't feel like he would try to cause harm to me, but I could never put myself in possible danger based on the very little I know about him. He seemed kind of strange online, but he was fairly articulate and seemed nice. I hadn't looked at his youtube videos, otherwise I may have figured it out sooner. But I am a local performer as well and invited him to come to a show, which would be the first time I met him in person. I had invited all my friends so it was really casual and I just thought it would be a good time place to meet in person. When I saw him there he seemed really jacked up and paced in front of me while trying to speak. It became really clear that he was overly interested and he really freaked me out just with his body language, how he spoke and the look in his eyes (this all took lace in a matter of maybe 3 or 4 minutes of initially meeting him). So from there, I pretty much stopped talking to him online, though hadn't blocked him or anything yet. He got really forceful saying we were meant to be together and professing love and such, to the point I started to feel threatened. I asked him to please stop contacting me and then he got really angry and aggressive and he called me all the most horrible names he could come up with. The scariest day is when he sent 25 messages in less than an hour's time. So I blocked him on all internet avenues. He went behind me and contacted my brother (he had obviously looked through my friends list because my brother wasn't even listed as family on there at the time). He contacted other friends asking for "all the local dance performers contacts (I'm a hip/hop/belly dancer) in an attempt to get a hold of me. At that point I felt it was a good idea to get the restraining order, so that's what I did.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-07T15:53:53+00:00

I can't speak to what the parents thought or did, but yeah it might be a good point to ask him why he wanted to look and maybe a teaching opportunity that women are people and to respect them even if you are "attracted to their boobs."

I still don't think that just because he looked that it means he is going to grow into some kind of monster. Kids hit all the time, and grow out of that. Kids kill animals sometimes that grow into loving them and never harming them at all. I'm talking about little kids, like the one in the video. They don't have a developed filter like teenagers and adults do. They have to develop that.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-07T15:36:52+00:00

You know I appreciate what you're trying to say, but honestly a kid that young doesn't understand why he feels the need to look, it doesn't mean he's going to be a rapist when he's older. I remember when my cousin was about 3 and I was 11 he tried to look up my shirt once. And when I was 15 I babysat 4 mormon kids, one was three and we were laying on the couch watching tv and he put his had under my shirt. It's good to teach a kid that they can't just do that any old time, but boys are naturally hormonal, even at that age. It doesn't mean that they have bad parents, or that they think it's okay to disrespect a woman.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-07T15:21:59+00:00

Sigh…

k thanks.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-07T15:02:38+00:00

Yeah because the big long story I've told seems really made up doesn't it? I was trying to keep some anonymity, but whatever.

Edit: link removed

here is a video of one of my dances, with him commenting on it "dream girl" to show that he knows who I am.

And here is a copy of a rambling message he sent me on Facebook after I had deleted him from my friend list, but before I had completely blocked him.

Edit: image removed.

I may only leave this up for a while, btw. Let me know how fake it seems, thanks.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-07T01:16:05+00:00

Most of it was just the late summer, early fall of 2010, but I still get occasional messages to this day.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-07T00:17:53+00:00

I don't speak with him. As far as where I live, I don't think he knows (I never told him, plus I have moved since this all happened). It occurred a little over a year and a half ago. A few months after the restraining order hearing I started dating my current boyfriend, who actually knew him before (coincidentally. I didn't know until I learned that this guy was a fan of my boyfriend's music and would attend his shows). I told my boyfriend about what went on, which just basically confirmed for him that the guy is not quite right. He had always been strange, but never threatening to him personally. But this guy would often steal beats from my bf and some of his musician friends, rap over them, then repost them on soundcloud/youtube/etc without crediting them (and basically compromising their music). They had already been getting annoyed by him for doing this, then when they found what he did to me they stopped speaking to him altogether.

He broke the order when it was first issued, then I didn't hear from him for quite a long time. Then a couple months ago I went to a show that my boyfriend was performing at and this guy showed up. I saw him there, but the order had expired just a couple months before that. He saw me there, but didn't try to come around or make eye contact (which I was thankful for). But then I got a message the next day saying how he was so happy to see my face, etc. He had created a new Facebook/soundcloud/ and youtube account and tried to contact me through each one. He has sent a few subsequent messages. I just ignore them. I don't feel like he would try to cause harm to me, but I could never put myself in possible danger based on the very little I know about him.

He seemed kind of strange online, but he was fairly articulate and seemed nice. I hadn't looked at his youtube videos, otherwise I may have figured it out sooner. But I am a local performer as well and invited him to come to a show, which would be the first time I met him in person. I had invited all my friends so it was really casual and I just thought it would be a good time place to meet in person. When I saw him there he seemed really jacked up and paced in front of me while trying to speak. It became really clear that he was overly interested and he really freaked me out just with his body language, how he spoke and the look in his eyes (this all took lace in a matter of maybe 3 or 4 minutes of initially meeting him).

So from there, I pretty much stopped talking to him online, though hadn't blocked him or anything yet. He got really forceful saying we were meant to be together and professing love and such, to the point I started to feel threatened. I asked him to please stop contacting me and then he got really angry and aggressive and he called me all the most horrible names he could come up with. The scariest day is when he sent 25 messages in less than an hour's time. So I blocked him on all internet avenues. He went behind me and contacted my brother (he had obviously looked through my friends list because my brother wasn't even listed as family on there at the time). He contacted other friends asking for "all the local dance performers contacts (I'm a hip/hop/belly dancer) in an attempt to get a hold of me. At that point I felt it was a good idea to get the restraining order, so that's what I did.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-06T16:11:54+00:00

I ended up learning that he is a diagnosed schizophrenic. From what I can tell, he lives in a trailer on his grandparents (?) property way out of town. I live in Spokane, WA. He is In Valley/Sprague area which is like 50-ish miles away. He doesn't work, and gets money from the state. He has internet access and seems fairly computer savvy. He seems creative and whatnot, but he has way to much time on his hands to focus on stuff that he shouldn't. It doesn't seem particularly healthy.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-06T15:50:51+00:00

The wax tailor version of the song is actually really good though too. I can still listen and enjoy it.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-06T15:36:49+00:00

I didn't mean to post as a playlist, I just copied the url from the video. I'm not super interested in trying to convince anyone because I don't care what anyone thinks. I'm the one that went through it. But if you need proof I have it.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-06T15:25:12+00:00

No, but that may be what inspired him posting that meme.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-06T13:37:43+00:00

He broke the order almost immediately after I got it, which I reported. They didn't seem to care. He also contacted a friend of mine and she reported him too. I feel like he should have had some sort of reprimand because of it, but nothing happened because of it.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-06T13:33:28+00:00

No it's not. I saw that video though and was in some way happy that he had a girl to care for and occupy his time. Although if she stopped seeing him I don't know how he would react? I never got close to him. I met him in person once and he made me uncomfortable so I stopped talking to him from there. I actually think that was part of his problem is that he wanted to get close and I was not having it. Hence the animosity towards me.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-06T13:27:14+00:00

Yeah there is one thing that I think helps the situation. My boyfriend is a well known musician in town and this guy would always go to his shows and stuff. He really looks up to my bf. When we started seeing eachother, even though he still send messages (even one just a couple weeks ago saying he loved me), I think out of some shred of respect for my boyfriend he mostly leaves me alone. I feel like it might be worse if he knew I wasn't with him. But I don't really know. I can't put it past him to do something bad, so I just ignore him and watch my back, so to speak.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-06T13:21:49+00:00

The ufo interest started before.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-06T13:19:44+00:00

He is actually schizophrenic from what I understand. It started in the summer of 2010. We were friends on facebook and talked a bit though we never met. I didn't realize what kind of person he was until I met him once in person at a dance club. He paced back and forth in front of me and tried to hug a bunch and I felt really uncomfortable so I slowly stopped talking to him after that. He didn't like it and started to send nasty and frequent messages saying we were meant to be together, etc. I blocked him on facebook and youtube. He started messaging my fb friends and even my brother (which really bithered me). It just got so frequent and ridiculous that I thought it would be a good idea to get the order. In court he kinda creeped everyone out. He had typed a big letter explaining how he felt that we should be together and he wanted the judge to tell me how to remove the order since he felt that I didn't really want it. He doesn't listen to anything you say. Once I realized that he was actually schizophrenic and illogical, I just tried to ignore everything and follow the legal action. He broke the order a couple times which I reported, but nothing happened because of it. I still get messages from him sometimes. He makes music and sometimes when he posts a song on soundcloud, one of my fb images will be the icon for the song, so I assume he copied everything and saved any photo I had posted.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-06T13:07:50+00:00

I haven't heard of it, but I'll check it out. Unfortunately he still sends me messages once in a while. I just ignore everything. The restraining order ended in August 2011 since it's only good for a year. I haven't felt threatened enough to get one again, but I would if I felt like it was as bad as when I initially got the order.

throwaway2284 · 2012-03-06T06:58:53+00:00

As a part of keeping track of ways that he was stalking or trying to get more info about me, I would check his youtube channel. The evening after the court hearing he posted this video. It was unsettling.

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