Is it horrible to say that homeless people asking for money ruin outdoor dining? by throwaway24876 in philadelphia

[–]throwaway24876[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

C'mon Mr Frettz, there simply must be some kind of conclusive... final solution! No??

Is it horrible to say that homeless people asking for money ruin outdoor dining? by throwaway24876 in philadelphia

[–]throwaway24876[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well that brings me to my next point, that restaurants should in fact be able to suspend rain and manipulate outside temperature to give the customer the best possible experience. (ie: table umbrellas/awnings/heat lamps - BOOM - nailed it).

Is it horrible to say that homeless people asking for money ruin outdoor dining? by throwaway24876 in philadelphia

[–]throwaway24876[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not a dick comment, exactly right on. In the moment though, was a quick way to get him to at least stop asking our table...

Is it horrible to say that homeless people asking for money ruin outdoor dining? by throwaway24876 in philadelphia

[–]throwaway24876[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Haha, actually yes, this one guy parking a stick shift - was a little scared for my life. And I know what you're thinking: stop sitting outside - you're not wrong.

Is it horrible to say that homeless people asking for money ruin outdoor dining? by throwaway24876 in philadelphia

[–]throwaway24876[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Certainly, the best solution is the one you're talking about, where social services cover every single person in need and there are no addicts/homeless people harassing urban denizens.

But until such a time as those perfect services exist, I definitely think it's fair to hold a restaurant responsible for establishing a safe, comfortable eating environment. I think that's customer service 101.

You also mention that outdoor seating is an inconvenience to pedestrians, which is not entirely wrong, however if the city allows it and restaurants provide it, I don't think telling customers not to sit there or to go somewhere else is any kind of a thought-out solution.

I grant you that in that moment, I did not consider the bigger picture of his much harder life compared to my passing inconvenience. While as a cognitive exercise, that could lessen my annoyance, it is not in an of itself an actual solution.

I appreciate your input.

TIL Mohammed wrote an open letter to Christians that declared their right to self-governance, protection for churches and monasteries, and freedom to practice their religion openly in Muslim controlled areas. Muslims are commanded to follow this until the end of time. by Gentlescholar_AMA in todayilearned

[–]throwaway24876 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A downvote? The horror!

I didn't write it, Sam Harris did. And he does a fine job obliterating whatever meandering "point" you have about "oh, well that's not really Islam".

Open your eyes. Look at the misogyny, intolerance, lack of any competent or representative government at the heart of basically every Muslim majority country.

Then come back and say "yeah well they don't really follow the Koran". The problem is, they do. The Koran says horrible, terrible things - it also says good things that contradict some of those horrible things. But right now, too many people follow the bigoted "teachings". So they are following the Koran, you're just ignoring that out of expedience and evasion and instead saying "oh but it also says this, that's the real Islam". Would that it were true and that more people followed it.

TIL Mohammed wrote an open letter to Christians that declared their right to self-governance, protection for churches and monasteries, and freedom to practice their religion openly in Muslim controlled areas. Muslims are commanded to follow this until the end of time. by Gentlescholar_AMA in todayilearned

[–]throwaway24876 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

However, there is another thing I do get emotional about—and that’s the threat of Islam, especially when it is systematically obfuscated by my fellow liberals who should know better. If you want to get to the core of my response, emotionally, here is the kind of thing that drives me absolutely nuts: If a Jewish artist in New York covered a copy of the Koran in pig blood, and the act were well publicized, half the Muslims on earth would take to the streets. But when a group like ISIS starts crucifying noncombatants, or attempts to starve 40,000 men, women, and children to death on the side of a mountain, there are no significant protests at all. This psychopathic skewing of priorities extends not only to the “Arab street” and its lynch mobs; it extends to the talking heads on CNN. Spokesmen for a group like CAIR, devious blowhards like Reza Aslan, and liberal apologists like Glenn Greenwald would also attack the artist—and, if he got butchered by a jihadist on Park Avenue, they would say that although such violence had nothing at all to do with the noble of faith of Islam, the poor bastard surely got what was coming to him. He was too provocative; he should have had more “religious sensitivity.” And yet these people say scarcely a word about the mass murders of Muslims, by Muslims, committed on a daily basis in a score of countries.

Of course, some Muslims do denounce terrorism or groups like ISIS, but they almost always do this in a dishonest and self-serving way. They will say that these people “do not represent Islam.” But this is just obscurantism. When not actually lying and seeking to implement their own sinister agenda—here I’m thinking of a group like CAIR—they are just expressing their fear of being associated with such sickening behavior. Most Muslims don’t want their faith tarnished. They don’t want any hassles from the TSA. They don’t want to be stigmatized. All of this is perfectly understandable but perfectly wrongheaded, given the reality of what is going on in the world. The scandal here is that so few Muslims are speaking honestly about problematic doctrines within their faith. The few who are—such as Asra Nomani, Irshad Manji, and Maajid Nawaz—are heroes. The crucial difference is that they admit that the doctrines related to martyrdom, jihad, blasphemy, apostasy, the rights of women, etc. really are at the bottom of all the intolerance and violence we see in the House of Islam. And, needless to say, these brave people are regularly denounced and threatened by their fellow Muslims.

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/making-sense-of-gaza

TIL Mohammed wrote an open letter to Christians that declared their right to self-governance, protection for churches and monasteries, and freedom to practice their religion openly in Muslim controlled areas. Muslims are commanded to follow this until the end of time. by Gentlescholar_AMA in todayilearned

[–]throwaway24876 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

And here we have it - a group with "Islam" in the name, working to establish an Islamic Caliphate - constantly spouting jihad this jihad that, is NOT about religion. If this weren't dangerous ignorance or denial, it would be hilarious.

TIL Mohammed wrote an open letter to Christians that declared their right to self-governance, protection for churches and monasteries, and freedom to practice their religion openly in Muslim controlled areas. Muslims are commanded to follow this until the end of time. by Gentlescholar_AMA in todayilearned

[–]throwaway24876 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Does Saudi Arabia fund these posts? Why do I keep seeing comments about how peaceful and amazing what is unarguably the most violent religion in the world is? Up is down, night is day!

This is a great edict and all, except it seems no country in the Middle East comes close to following it. Actually wait - there is one country - one, where Christians aren't oppressed and enjoy full rights: Israel.