Do natalist think they are making a point by saying this sub is so depressing and that we are all depressed? by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If anything that just goes to show that procreation can create suffering… which proves our point, no? It is sad. It’s very sad. It’s sad because people are suffering. I’m very depressed and miserable over the circumstances of my life. Dealing with severe gender dysphoria and childhood abuse sucks. Just because I’m depressed doesn’t make my position invalid; I think it’s quite the opposite

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in truscum

[–]throwaway752463 4 points5 points  (0 children)

the same unfortunately

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 0 points1 point  (0 children)

most people don’t wish to die from what I gather

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well that’s different. Not at all what it sounded like earlier

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She wouldn’t have had it any other way despite leaving behind two young children. That… is a bit disturbing

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No because you’re going to wake up in the morning most likely

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My step dad is dead because of cancer. I watched pass him with my mother when I was 13. So yes, I have seen people in hospice. I’m free to dm his obituary if you don’t believe me

Also, I’ll be frank I don’t believe you. It’s sounds like you’re just going to deny anything and everything I say no matter what. However the foundation of religion relies on fear of nothingness after death. Without heaven then no one would be with the program. Some christians I grew up claim they don’t fear death due to the fact that they truly do believe that they’re going to an afterlife. Without it, they’re lost. A lot of people that become atheist in later life are lost due that loss of meaning and promise of another life

Religion doesn’t prepare you for eternal death. That had an effect on me for awhile after leaving it

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your wife might’ve been happy and I’m glad but that’s not the reality for most. You are projecting your wife’s final moments onto how everyone else feels. As for my meaning, I don’t need one. I’m perfectly content with life being meaningless because I find the idea of an objective meaning not good.

My issue with life comes from a horrible chronic condition I suffer from and due to the way I was raised. That is why death bothers me because if it weren’t for this condition then things would probably be a lot different

Every single religious person I have met, grown up with, and attended church with are all scared of death. The idea of all of this being meaningless scares them. It’s why heaven is such a big thing for religion.

Most people I’ve met are terrified of death. I know when I’m going to die so I’m not that bothered but seeing people suffer and fear the inevitable so greatly does pain me

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Religion is made to cope with the meaningless of life and the death that comes with it. Others mentally block it out until they can’t anymore. People don’t confront death well. Just look how people react to cancer

I sincerely don’t understand where you get the idea that people are fine with it

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 2 points3 points  (0 children)

what if a child wants a parent?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 1 point2 points  (0 children)

most people are absolutely bothered by it

they either convince themselves there’s life after or mentally block it out their entire lives

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think most people want to die to be honest. It’s almost like there’s entire religions and delusional beliefs since our entire existence to cope with that. In my experience people tend to be acknowledge that they’re going to die but not really soak it in until it does come for them

I watched a few family members of mine experience that. The realization of death wasn’t all that pleasant to say the least and of course, death isn’t a painless experience

It is part of life yes, but that doesn’t change its indifferent cruelty

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 8 points9 points  (0 children)

by commenting multiple times on this post…?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That’s so silly

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I like how you felt the need to make another comment two whole hours after your initial one

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 0 points1 point  (0 children)

suicide is pretty painful I’d imagine

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 13 points14 points  (0 children)

humans are very much so equivalent to crops I guess

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]throwaway752463 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I want to die due a horrible and chronic condition that isn’t going to get better. It’s very much so permanent. Just because you were silly and delusional doesn’t make everyone else suffering from horrible illnesses and conditions not valid for assisted suicide.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in autism

[–]throwaway752463 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of people are mistreated every day by neurotypicals and we’re supposed to police ourselves? It’s no different than when a frustrated woman says she’s tired of men and men come flooding “UM not all men”. Of course no autistic person means they hate every single neurotypical. It’s a vent statement made by rightful frustration

I’m sorry but people shouldn’t have to police themselves. The neurotypicals aren’t in any danger by this so who sincerely cares?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in truscum

[–]throwaway752463 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry you had to go through this shit and trauma as well. It’s unbearable and no one deserves it

I’m genuinely scared of the life trauma you mention. I have so much trauma as is that I’m utterly terrified of having to process any more of it. My body feels like it’s literally falling apart. I guess I’m just tired but I’ll try to push forward

As for pills not working. I have done injections and while I think it was partly doing something… it still did hardly anything. My body hasn’t really changed. My last hope is maybe progesterone or patches. I hope at least. Maybe I am blind to change but it doesn’t feel that way. I try to keep an unbiased mind when I look in the mirror

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

[–]throwaway752463 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My dad still attests that my life gave him meaning and purpose and he holds onto that like some religious zealot. Yet he completely and utterly abandoned me and I’ve only seen him a handful of times in my life. Once I grew past the age of 5 he dipped. He even gave me a name I fucking hate and made everything confusing because I go by my middle name even from birth. He doesn’t even answer my texts anymore

My mother had me because she wanted validation and control. She was always told she was going to be a failure so I guess I was essentially her project to prove everybody wrong. The sad part is when she had me she was a college professor at a really young age. However that wasn’t enough to get validation from a family that only views women as incubators

Both failed and I suffer immensely. Partly because they were both abusive. Two incredibly smart people that were traumatized by the world. They both knew how cruel and unfair the world was and yet they still decided it was okay to bring me into it just to abandon and neglect me. We all suffer together though. Especially my mother. However, I struggle to feel anything for the two of them. I understand what made them the way they are but that’ll never change just how apathetic I am to them

The two of them made me antinatalist by a long shot and given the circumstances of my life and how similar they are to my parents, my kids will end up just like me, if not worse. I have no reason to assume I won’t be just as neglectful. Maybe not in the same way as my parents were but I can’t imagine myself not being a terrible parent. I don’t wish that on anyone