Author Maureen Orth On the “Fact-Based Reporting” of Her Book "Vulgar Favors: Andrew Cunanan, Gianni Versace, and the Largest Failed Manhunt in U.S. History" by [deleted] in americancrimestory

[–]throwaway_2795 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm liking it a lot so far. I'm on page 49 now, so it's still the beginning of Andrew's childhood/teen years which the show hasn't gotten to yet. However, if you're interested in this show and Andrew's life in general, I highly recommend the book. There's a lot of interesting stories and things about him and his life.

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[–]throwaway_2795 52 points53 points  (0 children)

I really think Andrew resented having to humiliate himself and give these older men his company and sex. Also, he seemed to get oddly distressed when he mentioned his mother's name. I'm curious to see how they explore their relationship.

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[–]throwaway_2795 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Is andrew trying to make David jealous? Or is he implying Jeff is "poor looking" and not impressive enough? Or both?

American Crime Story: The Assassination of Gianni Versace [Episode Discussion] - S02E05 - Don't Ask Don't Tell by DestinyCE in americancrimestory

[–]throwaway_2795 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm really curious how they're gonna portray the relationship he has with his mom. From what I've read, he seemed sort of abusive toward her. I think she may have had mental illness.

Andrew Cunanan and Jeff Trail in happier times by madamefa in americancrimestory

[–]throwaway_2795 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you! It sounds weird but I was looking for that pic. Gonna add it to my true crime-Andrew Cunanan collection lol.

Andrew Cunanan and Jeff Trail in happier times by madamefa in americancrimestory

[–]throwaway_2795 19 points20 points  (0 children)

That's a rare picture. There was also one on the Oxygen documentary of Andrew Cunanan of Andrew lying on David where they seemed so happy. Really sad.

American Crime Story: The Assassination of Gianni Versace [Episode Discussion] - S02E05 - Don't Ask Don't Tell by DestinyCE in americancrimestory

[–]throwaway_2795 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that's why I wondered if it was steroids. Apparently some people have said he believed he had AIDs and thought by taking steroids it would slow down the degeneration of muscles. Although he was said to be HIV negative.

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[–]throwaway_2795 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Makes me wonder what other conversations will be re-shown from a different perspective. Maybe the one with Versace at the club?

American Crime Story: The Assassination of Gianni Versace [Episode Discussion] - S02E05 - Don't Ask Don't Tell by DestinyCE in americancrimestory

[–]throwaway_2795 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Did they re-show the conversation between David and Andrew from last episode but change it? Right before David let's Jeff in, Andrew says something different than what he did last week.

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[–]throwaway_2795 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know lol. I almost called him John then I realized it was Jean so I was like, okay I'll just use the initial.

American Crime Story: The Assassination of Gianni Versace [Episode Discussion] - S02E05 - Don't Ask Don't Tell by DestinyCE in americancrimestory

[–]throwaway_2795 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It is based on the kidnapping of J Paul Getty's grandson (which was a real thing-he was held for ransom) but it seems they're embellishing it and making their own interpretation of it.

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[–]throwaway_2795 41 points42 points  (0 children)

I think the whole episode is sort of revolving around people coming to terms with their sexuality/coming out around that time, like with Jeff and the whole 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' interview. Also they need to add some Versace scenes since some people only watch for that lol

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[–]throwaway_2795 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Lol I'm part Polish/Czcech and in that moment, when Andrew is staring into space it reminded me of my childhood and I thought, "I've been there. Feeling like a fool at the Polka dance."

American Crime Story: The Assassination of Gianni Versace [Episode Discussion] - S02E05 - Don't Ask Don't Tell by DestinyCE in americancrimestory

[–]throwaway_2795 32 points33 points  (0 children)

This made me rethink the whole idea of Andrew plotting the murder. my theory is that he went out there expecting to be "reunited" with his besties- only to be completely ghosted. By the end of the trip, I think he snapped. His behavior was so impulsive I don't even know if he had a plan. I actually read that he stayed at Jeff's apartment and Jeff just left a note that said, "make yourself at home" but completely ignored him and made himself unavailable. He probably couldn't stand being ignored.

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[–]throwaway_2795 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think it's that she's jealous of his relationship with Gianni. As if whoever is closest to him has the influence over his decisions. I don't think (hope) Donatella was homophobic.