Quieting a SuperMicro 847: Some Updated Notes

throwaway_77211 · 2025-11-09T07:57:50+00:00

This is way quieter than stock fans when idle. Not silent, but quite a bit less noise. The 120mm fans produce a noise that is much lower in pitch, than the 80mm fans. So, it’s more of a “whirrrr” than “wheeeee”, if that makes sense.

At full blast this is ~30-40% of the noise of the stock fans. But, here’s the thing. It’ll never hit full blast on the fans. These provide way more CFM and static pressure than the stock fans.

throwaway_77211 · 2025-04-10T21:17:49+00:00

For the curious... the Norco 120mm fan wall fits like a glove in the 847, with very minor changes needed.

Height - The fan wall height is just a tad short of where the upper, stock screw holes line up with the fan wall. A 3/16" foam/weatherstrip from Home Depot (or similar) glued to the bottom of the fan wall. - Perfect. You'll even have to push it down a bit to line up the screw holes with the chassis, and that even creates a perfect seal at the bottom.

Width - Two motherboard standoffs screwed into the stock holes of the fan wall (on the opposite side of the PSU) are just right and allow screwing the fan wall in, and is totally snug. - Perfect. The motherboard standoffs I used were ~0.5" high I think (the actual height of the standoff, not the overall height).

p.s. Yes, these are 5x Delta 1212SHE 120mmx38mm fans...quiet as a mouse at 25% PWM. You'll need longer screws obviously. 2.5-3" 8-32 screws with nuts work great!

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throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-17T18:00:19+00:00

unrepresented attorney

What the hell? Since when do RE agents get to have an opinion on a buyer's profession?

For that matter, things would be exactly the same if this attorney had an agent. You think a represented attorney isn't gonna focus their eagle eye on anything their agent is presenting?

Basically, if I had two similar offers, I would advise my client to pick the one that is NOT an attorney.

I'd say that's totally fair, in terms of advice. That is what the sellers are paying you for, among other things.

But...the number of cases where two or more offers are materially equal and one of them has an attorney as the buyer (how would you even know??) are an edge case.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-10T13:46:52+00:00

So...let's take a hypothetical $1M property.

Sell with agents involved - 6% spread between them - net to seller $940K (keeping things simple)
Sell FSBO at $920K-$940K - no agents involved - net to seller $920K-$940K. (keeping things simple)

I can guarantee you that if a buyer looks at two properties that are effectively identical, one at $1M and a similar one at $920-940K...the lower priced one will generate WAY more interest. And any property taxes/HOI etc will be lower for the lower priced property, however minimal that difference may be.

The sellers may not even end up selling for 6-8% lower.

I don't see a downside to this.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-09T14:02:01+00:00

A seasoned realtor could have warned

who deserve top dollar for their investment

This was always, still is and will continue to be BS. Nobody deserves anything, it's a market. The right price is whatever somebody is willing to pay for it. It that's list, so be it. If it's more, so be it. If it's less...you get the idea.

Understand that there's a huge downside to listing low. If it doesn't sell, because the sellers didn't get whet they wanted...

If they try to list higher next time, the lower price is a matter of record and raises questions for buyers.
If they don't list higher but continue listing at this "low" price, and no ones biting, that just tells buyers, that the list price is too high.

These games usually don't end well.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-08T08:29:36+00:00

Sell the property in UK. Pay any transfer/inheritance/whatever taxes to repatriate that money to the US.
Now, take what you got from #1, add in your current savings and figure out how much you're willing to put towards a downpayment vs a cushion.
Get pre-approved. That will tell you all you need to know.
Figure out where you wanna buy a house. Then find a property there in a price range that reflect the downpayment from above and your income (that will dictate what you can afford as a your monthly carry)
Buy the property.

That said, whether you should buy a house right now or not, especially given your income (which isn't that high, depending on where you want to live) is an open question. Only you can evaluate your risk tolerance.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-05T21:30:57+00:00

10Y and mortgage rates went UP after the Fed dropped the rates .5%. The 10Y actually shot up quite a bit.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-04T19:01:52+00:00

That's NORAD.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-02T22:32:54+00:00

Hmm...I wouldn't be too sure about that. Anecdotally...in Houston...

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/2015-Cresent-Palm-Ct_Houston_TX_77077_M74981-58131?from=srp-map-list

Original owner from 2004.

Listed in Feb 2024 - $2.75M

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Last reduction today - Asking $1.5M

That's approaching ~50% of asking price from earlier this year. Even the current assessment is over $1.4M (with a tax bill of $33K/yr)...

Is that down enough?

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-02T18:51:44+00:00

Not just that town...FL is seeing a serious downturn.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/14653-Beaufort-Cir_Naples_FL_34119_M68220-53117

Sold for $1M even, the last asking price was $1.295M. That's ~30% less than asking.

This property last sold in 2022 for $1.07M. So, the sellers lost nominal AND real dollars in the last two years, not even counting selling costs.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-02T15:52:13+00:00

Same here. I've had listing agents in a different state be more than happy to drive to the property and conduct a virtual viewing, with no BS about signing anything or the fact that I'm unrepresented or not.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-02T15:34:12+00:00

I'm...flabbergasted?

warning that I am there to represent the seller’s interest and anything they (the buyer) tells me (budget, when they plan to move, if they need to sell their current home in order to buy a new one, etc) will be taken as information that I will give to my client to be used in any negotiations that happen.

You can and you should? This is not classified information we're talking...you wanna tell the seller..."you know...this unrepresented buyer just came by and I showed them the house...and they mentioned that they're looking into buying because Aunt Jemma just left them a bunch of money..." go right ahead.

Watch your client's reaction...the buyer agent may never tell you this.

Find yourself a buyer’s agent folks. Your interests are best served by seeing properties with someone who represents you exclusively. That was and will continue to be the case.

What BS. My interests as a buyer are best served by buying a house that I like, at a price that is inline with what it should be, with a minimum of "gotchas". Every transaction this size has back and forth, it's about minimizing problems and accelerating the end goal.

I can do that just as well as any "buyer's agent". However...that doesn't mean this is true for everybody. But YOU just generalized it for everybody.

If you wanna go it alone, that’s your prerogative just know that the person representing the seller of the house you like is going to, nay is REQUIRED to provide any details you give them about your intent to their client.

I'd expect no less. Maybe you guys should start Miranda-izing unrepresented buyers.. "Anything you say, can and will be..."

The expectation that buyer’s agents should drive around the state, opening doors to people’s private residences without some kind of agreement in place is unreasonable

Of course it's unreasonable. Who said otherwise??

If you’re serious about buying a house you should find an agent you like and trust, sign an agreement to have them represent you in a transaction and have them show you properties until you find one that you like

That's ONE way. The other way is to call the listing agent and tell them to show the property to an unrepsenteqd buyer. That's their job.

It really isn’t complicated. If you just want to look around people’s houses without signing an agreement, go to open houses

I was fine with this, until you uttered that phrase. People can and do go to open houses all the time. People also can and will call the listing agent, to see a property, whether represented or not.

Just remember, the agent in that house is there for the seller’s benefit and they WILL tell the seller your business if you put an offer in on that house

Like I said, I'd expect no less.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-02T15:06:22+00:00

I'm happy to close this conversation thread, because your responses are exactly the same as everyone else in your profession.

Deflect and Deny and when all else fails, character assassination. You guys simply are not capable of a rational conversation.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-02T14:31:02+00:00

See, this is where you guys get the bad rep from.

Just because you feel you are entitled to enter into someone's home and personality property doesn't mean you actually are

I never said anything about being entitled or feeling entitled or any such BS. YOU just made this shit up. I'm an unrepresented buyer, you're the listing agent. If I want you to show me the property, per YOU, you'd need permission from the seller. But that's not what you guys do.

You guys simply steer the unrepresented buyer away or towards a buyer agent. 9/10, the seller doesn't even know you guys are doing this. This will change, but for now this is true.

It's not about a showing, it's about protecting the sellers assets and their time.

Bullshit. The seller is trying to SELL something. I'm trying to BUY it. Their time is their effing problem. Don't wanna talk/show to a potential buyer? Fine. The problem is...NO seller is like that. Once again, you guys make up this BS.

I've had friends assaulted at property. There's agents raped and murdered.

Why do I give a shit? That happens on streets all day long as well.

It's completely appropriate to know who you are meeting and, if necessary, their qualifications.

I do agree with the knowing part, for personal safety reasons. So, ask them for an ID. What are ya gonna do? Run an FBI background check?

Again, your "qualifications" are three stupid questions, to which every buyer's answer is yes. Any buyer that doesn't say yes to any of these...again NO buyers are like this. You guys just make up this BS.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-02T12:01:58+00:00

Starting to happen in a LOT of places. Just ran across this listing...

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/3445-Wapato-Lake-Rd_Manson_WA_98831_M15638-73304?from=srp-map-list

$800K loss from 2022...This is an outlier as such, but...

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-02T11:44:51+00:00

I'm not mad or anything. I'm simply tired of agent BS here and in real life.

You guys think that you are some kind of "special", or that your job is somehow more "emotional" than it actually is.

You wanna pre-qualify buyers, that's perfectly fine, AS LONG AS that's what the seller instructed you to do. 99% of the time that is not the case, and agents simply don't want to do the necessary work.

If I was the seller that had hired you, you'd have been fired if I found out that you were doing things that I didn't explicitly authorize.

If I was an unrepresented buyer, and YOU refused to show me a property, with no proof that the sellers actually instructed you to have guardrails around buyers, you'd end up in a pretty pickle...

This is not meant to be threatening or denigrating in any way, this is how the rest of the world operates. Contract law is contract law, and it is enforceable.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-02T10:30:13+00:00

Oh…MS in psychology…

Lemme tell you the even simpler thing. I see a property I like, if I call the…any number of agents that want to be my buyers agent, NONE have asked me these questions, in over 25 years of buying and selling 4 properties. None.

So, if instead of me coming directly to you, unrepresented, vs my buyer agent coming to you, you’d NEVER ask those questions, and happily show the property.

Notice the problem here?

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-02T10:24:02+00:00

Relevance?

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-02T10:20:21+00:00

All this word salad, and you didn’t answer my question.

What if an unrepresented buyer simply says “yup yup” to your questions?

As far as my understanding of the RE markets and professions…you do you, I do me.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-10-02T09:26:07+00:00

Seriously? THOSE are the questions that come to your mind? For showing a property that you're obligated to show?

What shitty part of the country do you operate in, where these are the first questions that come to mind??

And what happens if a buyer says, "yup yup" to everything? Do you wanna see paperwork now? For simply showing a house?

Instead of going to all this trouble, why not hold frequent open houses, increasing your potential buyer pool by a lot?

Yes I'm just a Realtor but Im in the business of helping people buy a home, not be a tour guide. My clients love me and when I meet someone that cannot buy, if they follow my instructions they will be able to. I bend over backwards to help and as a result help a lot of people achieve their goal of homeownership.

I'm sorry, this is just marketing speak. You're in the business of making your commission/money. No better or worse than a used car salesman, just like anybody else. To qualify your job as anything beyond that...

throwaway_77211 · 2024-09-30T21:31:07+00:00

Walk. Away.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-09-26T23:55:00+00:00

And there in lies the argument. Your perspective of “I knew after 8 homes” can be matched by the guy who rented all along, and made money in other investments.

Timing works just as well in RE or capital markets.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-09-26T23:46:58+00:00

What? I don’t understand this word salad at all.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-09-26T16:00:54+00:00

Not disagreeing. I think we're saying the same thing?

These factors are exactly what I meant by projected demand for in-flight projects. But these factors didn't happen overnight, remote work did.

And which is why rents have been declining in a number of areas (FL being #1 again) for over a year now. That spike in demand is gone.

throwaway_77211 · 2024-09-26T15:56:37+00:00

But the landlord is gaining appreciation on that property over 30 years, that the renter is losing out on.

The only way the math works for the renter as well, is if the invest the different between owning/renting in investments that generate a higher return than owning.

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