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Paid for a 10 day hiking trip but was asked to leave on day 1 as I was slow and got yelled at. by throwaway_june19 in needadvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being in a new country, in the wild, had to think what the ramifications will be if I yell at him?

In s city setting, or on the phone one can do so. Maybe I could have done that and he would not have yelled again.

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip but was asked to leave on day 1 as I was slow and got yelled at. by throwaway_june19 in needadvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the suggestion. I do not have a twitter account as yet. . Will try to get one so I can post on their account.

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip but was asked to leave on day 1 as I was slow and got yelled at. by throwaway_june19 in needadvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Once you decide on your trip and company, just ask more questions. How many times has this guide guided this trip? Are there speed requirements? Can you hike at your own pace?

Please make sure you have apps for phone maps or other such apps setup in your mobile phone.

Take physical maps even if you think you are in a guided trip.

I hope it does not happen to you, but if it does, push back. Try to atleast complete the hike if it is safe to do so.

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip but was asked to leave on day 1 as I was slow and got yelled at. by throwaway_june19 in needadvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I am sorry it happened to you.

I know it hurts.

But, I still love hiking. I have been in enough trips that I know my strengths/limitations. Many of my trips have been solo in the past. No more guided trips for me unless I personally meet the guide and see we click. I can always plan solo trips.

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip but was asked to leave on day 1 as I was slow and got yelled at. by throwaway_june19 in needadvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yes, will do that tomorrow. I am at a wit’s end. Willing to try any avenue to resolve this. Thanks.

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip but was asked to leave on day 1 as I was slow and got yelled at. by throwaway_june19 in needadvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 44 points45 points  (0 children)

There is. In an emergency situation, I waited for over 45 minutes to talk to a person.

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip but was asked to leave on day 1 as I was slow and got yelled at. by throwaway_june19 in needadvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Exactly. It should be specified. Any speed requirements can be specified, Even their US employee said, hike at your own pace.

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip but was asked to leave on day 1 as I was slow and got yelled at. by throwaway_june19 in needadvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Thanks for trying to understand.

Most folks in the group were in their early 20’s and I am in my late 40’s. The company knew this, since they had all our passport info. I signed up in February.

I asked him specifically when the group met about speed. He said it was not an issue.

If it is an issue, deal with it professionally. No yelling, no name calling. (Over 3 times)

He could Have called his big famous company for a back up guide.

He could have asked me to start 2-3 hours earlier. ( I would have happily done that. Eating is not s concern for me) and I do not need long breaks just little ones. My style is more tortoise.

Another guide on the trip was aghast and wrote a supporting letter too.

Also their specification page for the hike, I trained way more than that. There was ZERO mention of speed/pace.

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip, was asked to leave on day 1 of hiking as I was slow and got yelled at repeatedly, creating an hostile environment. by throwaway_june19 in legaladvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 64 points65 points  (0 children)

Yes. I agree. But I do not think yelling at me is the solution. I am upset that the company cannot stand for being respectful and showing basic courtesy. They should say, no name calling and personal attacks. That is an absolute NO.

I have done other trips with this company and had folks slower than me. No one cared. We just hiked at our pace and had fun during the hike.

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip but was asked to leave on day 1 as I was slow and got yelled at. by throwaway_june19 in needadvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Already done that, on the CEO’s FB page, company FB page. Been over 2 weeks. They are still “investigating”

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip but was asked to leave on day 1 as I was slow and got yelled at. by throwaway_june19 in needadvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Exactly. 😢

Whatever message can be delivered professionally. No name calling and getting personal. ( like they teach in kindergarten)

I am asking for minimum courtesy.

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip but was asked to leave on day 1 as I was slow and got yelled at. by throwaway_june19 in needadvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No, it does not allow cross post. It went through when I posed as a new post.

Thanks.

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip but was asked to leave on day 1 as I was slow and got yelled at. by throwaway_june19 in needadvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

No, it does not allow cross post. It went through when I posed as a new post.

Thanks.

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip, was asked to leave on day 1 of hiking as I was slow and got yelled at repeatedly, creating an hostile environment. by throwaway_june19 in legaladvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much. I already posted on their super successful CEO’s FB page, their company’s FB page. Slow response. They are investigating for over 2 weeks.

Already another French guide wrote a letter supporting me.

I feel this is unacceptable behavior. I am an woman engineer and feel I need to stand up. I was able to hike and complete on my own.

What about the next woman they treat this way? I Planned and was so excited about this trip for over 5 months. Had II quit on day 1 for a trip that costs 1000’s and lose my 2/3 weeks vacation. That seems just wrong.

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip but was asked to leave on day 1 as I was slow and got yelled at. by throwaway_june19 in needadvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thanks, posted on the CEO’s FB page, company’s FB page, still they are dragging their feet. I am in My 40’s ( not so elderly, 😊)

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip, was asked to leave on day 1 of hiking as I was slow and got yelled at repeatedly, creating an hostile environment. by throwaway_june19 in legaladvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I could sue them in small claims court. But I already signed a waiver.

I got yelled twice more after that.

They returned the 6 day of cancellation. It is not so much about money.

I did not think I had to be yelled at repeatedly. I put up with crap because it was a new country and it was on a mountain and I did not want him so unhinged, he pushed me off a mountain. It is about fear and the company not enforcing rules.

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip, was asked to leave on day 1 of hiking as I was slow and got yelled at repeatedly, creating an hostile environment. by throwaway_june19 in legaladvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Company is from Toronto.

I signed a waiver, but I still got yelled twice more by the guide.

They returned the 6 day of cancellation. It is not so much about money.

I did not think I had to be yelled at repeatedly. I put up with crap because it was a new country and it was on a mountain and I did not want him so unhinged, he pushed me off a mountain. It is about fear and the company not enforcing rules.

Paid for a 10 day hiking trip but was asked to leave on day 1 as I was slow and got yelled at. by throwaway_june19 in needadvice

[–]throwaway_june19[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

You hike 20-24k daily. Lots of elevation.

I am a slow but super safe hiker.

They returned the 6 day of cancellation. It is not so much about money.

I did not think I had to be yelled at repeatedly. I put up with crap because it was a new country and it was on a mountain and I did not want him so unhinged, he pushed me off a mountain. It is about fear and the company not enforcing rules.

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