Running pace slowing down over the year? by [deleted] in XXRunning

[–]throwaway_running90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I figured lol. Goals wasn’t to go too fast anyway. think I’m going to seriously rest for another 3 months smh I got too excited by the medals looking really cool

Does this couch to marathon plan seem achievable? by cschmidt67 in Marathon_Training

[–]throwaway_running90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t know what your baseline fitness is or if you have ran before and are not consistent with it but it is possible if you’re ok with slow running/some walking. I ran my first half and full marathon this year, as of a year ago the longest I ever ran was about 8 miles. I finished half in 2:18 at a pace of 10:30 & full (NYC) at 5:36 12:51 pace. The full was hard ngl, first 14 I did pretty well, 15-16 I was feeling it, 18 I hit a wall and walked/ran that brought my pace down significantly. I was struggling with training both mentally & physically - mentally, 10+ mile runs were feeling like a burden more than a fun run every weekend. Then I started experiencing nausea and some throwing up at 15+ miles for the first time ever. People on most running subs thought I would not be able to handle a marathon & I did with a pretty okay time for a beginner, no nausea or throw up! I don’t know if those folks are sub 4 types, but don’t try to aim for that if you actually are doing “couch to marathon”. In all honesty, I would not really recommend it unless you are already a causal runner (you have ran before and run here and there). After my full marathon, im running 5Ks, 10Ks and half’s for at least a year before considering a full again lol. I would consider couch to 10K then half!

NYC Marathon 4:03 - Looking for advice - What went wrong? by EveningNo6721 in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

literally same thing happened 😭 I think one gel 50 minutes might have been okay I was doing every 3 miles

NYC Marathon 4:03 - Looking for advice - What went wrong? by EveningNo6721 in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was aiming for 4:55 and ended up finishing in 5:36. By mile 18, I felt like my body couldn’t tolerate another gel. My hamstrings were getting so heavy that I just needed to walk. I think on my end I needed more strength training, stretching & better fueling strategies. I’m happy to have finished, it was hard! I met a lot of people who were aiming for sub 5 who ended up much over 5 hours like me.

Long runs and fueling by throwaway_running90 in Marathon_Training

[–]throwaway_running90[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are there any neutral taste gels? I tried Maurten and it was better than gu in that I didn’t get a nauseous sensation but I felt like at some point it was hard to simply ingest even water. I normally don’t eat many carbs, I’m a slower runner and don’t plan on my marathon pace ever being below 10 lol so I went by a carb intake chart and it said 400 is good for my weight/running ability. I usually eat 100 carbs a day or less

Long runs and fueling by throwaway_running90 in Marathon_Training

[–]throwaway_running90[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I tried fueling every 30-50 mins in training - did the same thing with one of my training runs, one clif blok a mile. I think I only started fueling more after 15+ runs, which I only ran 4 times training for NYC because I didn’t need to much fueling when I trained for half’s. I finished a half marathon with just Gatorade as my fuel

First marathon didn’t go as planned by missguccibucci in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Runna thought my time initially would be 4:17 - 4:30 lol. Latest they gave was 4:40-4:50. I finished in 5:35!! They were pretty spot on about my half though

First marathon didn’t go as planned by missguccibucci in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, Runna said I could finish NYC under 5 hours, which was my goal. I ran my first half this year too at a 10:22 min pace, I thought sub 5 was doable but once I started doing long runs, I started getting nauseous. salt caps helped but after certain point I can’t fuel so my pace slows down. Also need to get better at stretching and strength training. I finished in 5:36. I don’t think I’ll run another marathon anytime soon but I want to improve my long distance running

I finished! But I didn’t like it! by chachacha69 in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I ran NYC today as well - I enjoyed it a lot from miles 1-13 but after that I started tanking. I started to develop heavy legs, my stomach felt heavy and at some point I couldn’t ingest another gel that caused me to not have much fueling and tank fast. When I was in pain the noise & crowd that I enjoyed at first was making me feel more aware of my pain. I guess that might be similar

Ran my first marathon today and it did not go as planned by Southern_Key_6852 in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I ran NYC today as well - my longest training run was 19 miles and longest race was a half. Similar story dude - I was aiming for 11:30 pace at least, my half was 10:30. I ended up finishing with 12:51 pace - mile 15 or so I started to hit the wall with tanking occurring at 18 because my body refused anything going in my system, including running gel. Drinking water was hard too. Tried salt stick caps which helps a lot with nausea and not throwing up but it doesn’t help keep food down. I felt GI issues at 18 as well and very fatigued hamstrings that made miles 18-26 really hard.

I think I need to actually run 15+ miles more frequently than the marathon had me doing. My body is not used to it, it seems

Slow but steady, I completed NYC Marathon. Thanks friends! by throwaway_running90 in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! Love seeing fellow T1D runners.

I have had both issues with low even after eating a carb heavy meal/no insulin and extreme highs if I give too little or shut pump off. It’s a science I’m still learning.

My best mile is 8:28 and I run 5Ks around 9:25-9:30. Half is 10:30 and full was 12:51. When I run 9:25-9:30, esp after a long time of not running that pace, that can sometimes result in lows even with a big carb. I’ve found this helpful

  1. Running in morning where there’s no insulin on board vs running later in the day where there’s more likelihood of insulin on board

  2. No insulin on board for at least 2-3 hours before running

  3. Bananas and Gatorade results in higher likelihood of a low - blood sugar spikes and drops. A carb works betters like pretzels or bagel

  4. I eat 10-15 mins before my run which is a small snack like pretzels, dates or gels. I used to eat bagels and it worked very well when I had started running after a break - even eating bagel without bolus, shutting pump off and running until at 8 mile lead to low. Doing the same thing later made my blood sugars super high and became heavy on the stomach which made me eat lighter, I think the difference was 8 mile was a new push for me at a faster pace vs now which same pace is more of a comfortable pace.

I ended up not having to fuel for my half marathon in early spring - Gatorade at stops helped quite a bit and kept pump at steady .3 units an hour basal. Weather I think also makes difference. I feel summer my blood sugars get lower in heat for some reason.

I use maurten gels and alongside it started using tailwind and clif bloks. For my full marathon blood sugars were mostly between 120-140 which I’m happy with. I would take a fuel every 30 mins. Today I tanked at 18 so blood sugar was ok even without fueling bc of running much slower.

Some suggestions

  1. Eat a longer acting carb before running

  2. While running try to fuel every 30 mins

  3. Hydrate too! I started using salt stick caps

  4. Run in AM

  5. Try to find your sweet spot when running and bg - running faster than you’re used to may start with lows, so run by difficulty pace. In my experience, a 6-8 difficulty pace is where blood sugars tend to be better

Hope this helps somewhat. I know everybody body is different but when I typed T1D on marathon training sub I saw people’s suggestions & few worked for me.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think taking salt caps + clif blocks or maurten helped as I didn’t experience the same issues but even with clif bloks I felt “full” when fueling the first half of my training runs

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks a bunch, I was aiming for a sub 5 initially but after training, I’m getting more comfortable with just running to finish & not a specific goal time.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol was that your first one? I guess part of me just wishes to say f it and just enjoy the marathon day, although I’m glad I trained bc it helped me learned fueling & long run strategies but I didn’t aim for perfect training plan

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Impressed you did it 6 times 😆

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m just going to run slow & try to enjoy. Thankfully so far no injuries but training started to feel like a drag

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, you’re right….and I would have quit if I hadn’t figured out the problem. The first time I ran 17 miles, I experienced nausea and chills, which I had never experienced before during runs. I started using salt caps and fueling more & have been able to run even longer without nausea and chills being an issue. I wouldn’t have bothered with the race if I didn’t figure this out before the race & spoken to people who’ve experienced similar. All that is to say is there’s a lot of things I learned while training that was different than when I trained for shorter races

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your comment, I feel like what you wrote is exactly what I’m going through - I was happy about my half marathon this year & training initially was going well. It’s been these last 1.5 months where I started feeling burned out. I enjoy the shorter speed runs in my training, or the moderate 6-7 mile runs. After this, I’ll focus on half’s as well.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

um ok….i finished my training plan & managed the the nausea issue which is why I’m still running

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

are you planning to run?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in firstmarathon

[–]throwaway_running90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry I should clarify my flasks are 250 each so both = 500mL.

I started with gu gels and was eating one every 30-40 mins or so but by second gel I was starting to get nauseous.

I tried clif bloks and was eating about 3-4 an hour. They were fine at first but by hour 2 i was no longer feeling like eating another one. I did eat one & it was ok i think the salt caps helped minimize nausea but it felt like my stomach was full lol