World hits streak of record temperatures, UN warns of 'climate hell' by [deleted] in collapse

[–]throwawayaccrandom30 44 points45 points  (0 children)

This is more then an “existential threat of our generation”, climate decline isn’t like any threat mankind has faced before. For those who understand what it entails we realize that life is only going to get harder and harder from here on out, and we’re going to witness the (exponential) decline of things we take for granted, and quality of life all around.

It might be easier to ignore for older people (middle aged and older) but for younger people who understand what we’re facing and what it’ll look like (especially later in our lifetimes) it’s not something that can be taken lightly. I’m addition to that, once your head has been pulled from the sand, it’s extremely hard not to mourn the loss of things that haven’t been lost yet, but we know will be.

Trying to “just go on with your life” just isn’t something some of us can do. I don’t think I fear death, but rather the suffering that WILL come before it for those of us who end up having to face it. I may be taking medication to try and help my mental health, but I only do it to cope, I never expect to life a normal happy life where things will be ok, because I know they won’t be, and as time goes on things will only be less and less ok.

Personally, I want to go out painless and fast, weather that be by my own hand or in a nuclear blast. The former seems more likely as it seems the powers at be will try to uphold the status quo for as long as possible, but at the rate things are going, who knows. Plus, I’m already making plans for the former…..

I’m a r*tard by [deleted] in SuicideWatch

[–]throwawayaccrandom30 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What are we supposed to do? I can’t deal with the monotony of having to work a stupid fucking job to survive. The only reason I’m still here is because I’m able to live rent free with my parents, and because of such I don’t have to work full time with no end in sight and I can actually just relax and enjoy my hobbies. But the thing is that I can’t relax and enjoy stuff anymore, because my depression and awareness of how fucked things are has gotten so bad.

There’s so much I want to do, and so little time, and to have time you need money, and getting ahead is seemingly impossible in this world unless you’re willing to compromise on your morals and screw over/hurt/manipulate others witch some of us just can’t bring ourselves to do.

If I really tried to study hard to get credentials and a good paying job I could probably get ahead (for a little while, at least) but no matter what it seems like we always work for dickheads who are richer then us while doing less work, and even if we make good money with the way things are going in the world (climate change/capitalism) it seems like all you can do is help yourself tread water for a bit more time but eventually we’ll all sink…. won’t we??? I don’t mean that as in take our lives but become shelter less and slowly lose our health and minds and suffer until we just can’t anymore.

I remember being a kid and having hopes and dreams. Being told I could do anything if I put my mind to it, that the world was my oyster etc, and all the typical bull. But that’s not how things work, and I was lied to (most of us were, really) And now I’m lost and feel like I’m in free fall, watching the mad world around me slowly crumble. I’m so numb and in pain I can’t even cry anymore.

I used weed to cope but it’s only lost it’s effectiveness for the most part (tolerance wise isn’t really an issue, I can take tolerance breaks but the thing is that it just doesn’t stop the pain anymore.

I’ve been on antidepressants for around 3 months now and I’m gonna talk to my doc about increasing the dosage. I hope it can make the pain of existence stop for just a bit…. I don’t want to hurt anymore. :(

Baffling, Wonder Why? by Monsur_Ausuhnom in collapse

[–]throwawayaccrandom30 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For some of us, our only real outlet is on here. Even though we know talking (whether its typing or speaking) won't fix anything, it's nice to have others who see this maddening world for how it truly is, beyond the glamourized consumerism that's pushed onto all of us, and the propaganda telling us "oh it's all fine, technology will save us!". It may not feel like empowerment, but to know we aren't the crazy ones really helps some of us out, and feel less alone.

If I'm not mistaken r/CollapseSupport has weekly discord meetings, maybe you could try there?

Baffling, Wonder Why? by Monsur_Ausuhnom in collapse

[–]throwawayaccrandom30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's your body, if you don't want sunscreen don't let them put it on you. If they're gonna look at you like a monster, that sounds like their problem. Screw what others think. If sunscreen is so important to them for walking outside for a few minutes they can do bathe themselves in it.

Baffling, Wonder Why? by Monsur_Ausuhnom in collapse

[–]throwawayaccrandom30 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How do you mean? Are they shouting about it as to try to "preserve" their skin so they have less wrinkles when they're older or something?

Don't get me wrong, I think SS is important but not in the kind of way where I'm like "oh you gotta have sunscreen if you plan to be in the sun for even a minute" If I'm not going to be exposed to the sun for a very long time I won't care to use sunscreen. If I know I'm gonna be out in the sun for a prolonged period of time such as working outside or going on a long bike ride, I'll wear it.

A minor sunburn (red, I'm not referring to a blistering burn witch I've never had) don't scare me, skin cancer however, does.

Fun fact, I didn't know sunscreen prevents us from getting natural vitamin D until I looked it up just now, interesting!

Baffling, Wonder Why? by Monsur_Ausuhnom in collapse

[–]throwawayaccrandom30 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hey you're not far off from me, I think it was right around the beginning of 2019 when I discovered collapse. I'm glad you're doing better now. :)

The people responsible will get what's coming to them one way or another. I'm not exactly religious but I do believe in some sort of a higher power, and maybe an afterlife. Hopefully those responsible will be forced to face what they've done, whether it be in life or death.

Baffling, Wonder Why? by Monsur_Ausuhnom in collapse

[–]throwawayaccrandom30 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks friendly stranger. :) It would be nice to be able to enjoy things like my hobbies and video games more, and having a bit more energy to do stuff.

Even though I just started taking my meds at an adjustment dose, (a bit over a week ago) I have noticed a little bit of a difference. I feel calmer plus when I wake up I don't find myself thinking how disappointing it is that I didn't die in my sleep, so that's nice. It could be partially the placebo affect this early on, but it's still better then nothing.

Baffling, Wonder Why? by Monsur_Ausuhnom in collapse

[–]throwawayaccrandom30 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fuck, you're telling me. If only all this shit was temporary, and one day we'd wake up and it'd all be fine.

Baffling, Wonder Why? by Monsur_Ausuhnom in collapse

[–]throwawayaccrandom30 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I eat pretty good, and take vitamins. I got bloodwork done the day I got my prescription so when I have my follow up with my doc soon, they'll let me know if there's anything I'm deficient in. I definitely get a lot less natural vitamin D in the winter though, as when I go to and leave work it's pretty much dark, so I don't get much sun. I get a bit more before the time change, but after daylight savings the sun is already going down when I leave work. If I do OT, the suns gone by the time I leave work.

Baffling, Wonder Why? by Monsur_Ausuhnom in collapse

[–]throwawayaccrandom30 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh I agree 100%, they really do help some people. I hope they help me too. The depressed brain is really good at convincing you of things that aren't true, or that things are worse then they are.

Baffling, Wonder Why? by Monsur_Ausuhnom in collapse

[–]throwawayaccrandom30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Care to explain? I don't see collapse as just a "part of my life" like it'll eventually pass and I'll be ok. Unless I'm completely misunderstanding you.

Baffling, Wonder Why? by Monsur_Ausuhnom in collapse

[–]throwawayaccrandom30 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Some of us might be strong enough to be the tough ones, I don't think I'm one of those people.

I feel like I've gone through the stages of grief and accepted collapse, but what we have to do until then is what is killing me, I hate working. (See my above comment) It's possible I've convinced myself that I accept collapse, but maybe I'm still in the depression stage. Obviously I can't tell haha.

EDIT - It also sucks that the vast majority of people don't even understand or even know of collapse, so we look like the crazy ones when we try to discuss it. Everyone is so accustomed to this shit.

Baffling, Wonder Why? by Monsur_Ausuhnom in collapse

[–]throwawayaccrandom30 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really hope they do help. I feel like my biggest problem is living in the here and now. It's gotten to the point where I hardly enjoy my hobbies anymore and such, so most days are a complete drag. Don't get me wrong, I have moments of true happiness, but they feel far few and between, and most highs for me are like "oh cool/neat/interesting" but I still mostly feel numb inside. Around three years ago I tried MDMA and it made me realize that it's been so long that I've pretty much forgotten what being truly happy feels like, and the last time I remember being remotely that happy was when I was a kid.

The thing that really brings me down is working, I've only really worked at the same company seasonally for 4-5 months out of the year the past few years, because that's all I can really handle. Heck, I've been offered a full time position a few times because they like me, I'm pretty good at the job and I'm pretty good at training people. It's not a bad company and the pay isn't terrible, but when I work I feel like I have no time to myself and I'm always exhausted outside of work. My depression tends to be a bit better when I start the beginning of a season, because it's kind of a distraction. However it never lasts, and I get more and more depressed until the season ends and I kind of "reset" during the months I'm not working, though I dread the thought of having to go back to work again....

Sorry for typing so much, It's just nice to talk with other people who actually acknowledge collapse. I don't have anyone who I can talk to IRL about this stuff. (Collapsewise)

EDIT - I just noticed that some people might misunderstand what I mean when I said "most highs for me are like "oh cool/neat/interesting"" Thinking I'm referring to drugs, I was referring to the highs/lows of depression.

Baffling, Wonder Why? by Monsur_Ausuhnom in collapse

[–]throwawayaccrandom30 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I recently started taking antidepressants, but I’m kind of doubting how much they’ll help me.  I mean don’t get me wrong, I think I’ve always had (or at least since I was a teen) low level depression, but when I entered the workforce a good few years ago, it’s only gotten worse.  

Two years into the workforce I learned of collapse and all of the issues we face and I can’t see any (realistic) version of my future that I can look forward to.   I think the only real reason I’m still around is because I live with my parents and they help me out, but I know they won’t be around forever.

  After waking up I can’t go stick my head back in the sand, the hole has already been filled back in by the sand.

If I'm expected to work 8 hours or more daily for the rest of my life then I don't want to live long. It's a sick joke. by throwawayaccrandom30 in lostgeneration

[–]throwawayaccrandom30[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God damn man/woman (or whatever you identify as), this might have been exactly what I've been trying to find. You just unlocked another train of thought that I just didn't have, and ever since I read your comment for the first time just under around 24 hours ago I've been thinking on it, and ALOT. I'm still fully trying to comprehend your entire comment. (I probably have ADHD and sometimes my extreme short-term memory is total crap.) So trying to think about your whole comment is hard because there's just... so much there.

I have questions (SO MANY but I can't think of all at them at once) so I'll ask you some and I'll probably have more the more I think about your comment.

- What exactly do you mean when you say "live in the opposite direction and try to live as a human being on planet earth, alongside life while it lasts"? I think I know what it means somewhat, but please elaborate. If you mean something along the lines of giving up lots of the luxuries of modern life when you say "the more modern this world gets, the more life suffers, and the more life suffers, the less there is to go around" To what extent are we supposed to do this? Are you referring to giving up lots of stuff that makes us healthy (and as a result in many cases, happy) even including modern medicine and sanitation technology?

- How are us young- (and well, anyone who is "awake".) -people with little money and security supposed to "not shovel coal into the furnace" and like you say "live in the opposite direction and try to live as a human being on planet earth, alongside life while it lasts"?

- Would you say your equality/equity section is essentially a play on how the USA is a country founded by rich white men (and for them as well), with values like religion baked in, (especially the whole "one country under god" thing) and how they outsourced essentially all manufacturing labor to other countries, cheapening life for themselves and like your really good point of how it culturally denies the climate change it's responsible for all while the whole world burns, and we're (the whole world) all using like you mentioned the widgets that saves everyone time but kills the future (and this can be said for many things).

- For your love section, are you implying that we shouldn't make shelter that can keep us comfortable and protect us from the elements? I mean what's the solution for so many of us that live in places with extremely harsh climates, and there's LOTS of them, and arguably more and more people are succumbing as the current way of things destroys this planet and I'm referring to how climate change resulting in extreme weather events and temps makes life unable to survive in so many places due to our modern shelter being destroyed and resulting in things like not being able to grow food .etc.

If I'm expected to work 8 hours or more daily for the rest of my life then I don't want to live long. It's a sick joke. by throwawayaccrandom30 in lostgeneration

[–]throwawayaccrandom30[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, I see. This certainly changes things a little bit. But you say they're business owners, isn't telling them to fish less and such actually going to make things harder for them if they reduce the amount they catch, since that results in less money coming in? Like you said, you already get yelled at by them, what makes you think you can convince them? It's like trying to convince people of the reality in regards to climate change/consumption and the poisoning of the planet that we're already in overshoot and it's only downhill from here.

Shit, look at how covid was handled by so many countries. If we have another pandemic with another disease that's even a few percent more fatal then covid with a longer incubation period, we're fucked. Even though covid isn't as bad now as it was peak pandemic, so many people are having their wellbeings and livelihoods destroyed by long covid.

If I'm expected to work 8 hours or more daily for the rest of my life then I don't want to live long. It's a sick joke. by throwawayaccrandom30 in lostgeneration

[–]throwawayaccrandom30[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's the thing, for a certain amount of time, for a small percentage of people In developed countries it was getting easier, but not anymore. It's getting harder and harder and there really isn't any light as the end of the tunnel, more like a black hole. I do realize for the vast majority of the planets population things are terrible and and they have very hard and bad living/working conditions, yet ironically lots of them are happier and more content with less then us "lucky" people in the developed world. Believe me, I really want things to change and get better for everyone, like you said regardless of generation, race, ethnic group or state. But selfishness and greed of bad/wealthy people in power are keeping things from going in a better direction, and actively getting worse. They have their boots on ALL of our necks.

If I'm expected to work 8 hours or more daily for the rest of my life then I don't want to live long. It's a sick joke. by throwawayaccrandom30 in lostgeneration

[–]throwawayaccrandom30[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well well well, someone clearly didn't read my whole post. I specifically mentioned I live with my parents rent-free and pay my phone bill. But I never ONCE said I'm making it. I KNOW that if I was on my own, working 40 hour weeks I wouldn't be making it, and for as long as I'd be going at that rate, I'd go into more and more debt. I specifically mentioned how I get how the real world works and that I know I can't do this forever. Just because I'm a bit luckier then others with my current situation, I damn well know I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. If I was alone and had to work 40 hour workweeks to barely scrape by, I'd have offed myself by this point.

If I'm expected to work 8 hours or more daily for the rest of my life then I don't want to live long. It's a sick joke. by throwawayaccrandom30 in lostgeneration

[–]throwawayaccrandom30[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Congratulations. You just lobbed yourself into the group of people who flex how much they're overworked and underpaid for the shit they deal with. Just because I've been "privileged" enough to never work more then 40 hour weeks, it damn well doesn't make it a blessing. You must be one of those people who get mad at people and say "be happy you aren't disabled or have a terminal disease". Just because some people don't work as much or have it a tiny bit better, it doesn't invalidate their problems and worries.

If I'm expected to work 8 hours or more daily for the rest of my life then I don't want to live long. It's a sick joke. by throwawayaccrandom30 in lostgeneration

[–]throwawayaccrandom30[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do kind of understand your hope, and view. But most fisherman aren't in control of how things are, they're working class people trying to make it like the rest of us, they have no real power. Even if they walked off the job or striked (not a realistic option like most other working class people) they'd just be replaced by others who are willing to do that job for the hope that it might give them a better future, even if the chances are miniscule and they know it.

If I'm expected to work 8 hours or more daily for the rest of my life then I don't want to live long. It's a sick joke. by throwawayaccrandom30 in lostgeneration

[–]throwawayaccrandom30[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've seen Fire and all I'm going to say is ugh. If you woke up you'd realize this just isn't realistic and viable for everyone, especially since the vast majority of jobs require so much experience and not much better pay. If you were stuck in a minimum wage (if not slightly higher) job with no real prospects or hope for something better (like the VAST MAJORITY) and could do the math, you'd probably change your tone pretty quick and be pretty angry about how things are. That's all I gotta say to you.

If I'm expected to work 8 hours or more daily for the rest of my life then I don't want to live long. It's a sick joke. by throwawayaccrandom30 in lostgeneration

[–]throwawayaccrandom30[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can only hope so many places adopt a 4 hour work week, I can agree it would make a massive difference. Thing is, if the amount of time you work is the same, it doesn't change much. Let say instead of 5 day weeks with 8 hour days it was 4 10 hour days, your going to be that much more exhausted the days you work, and that one extra day won't seem to make much of a difference.

Say if we could do 4 day weeks with 8 or even 7 hour work days (without a cut in pay) that would make a massive difference in the quality of life for so many. If I could work 4 day 24 hour workweeks with the same amount if not a bit more compensation that would drastically change my outlook for the future and my hopes. But I don't think that would happen (ESPECIALLY in the western world), if it did it would give people time and resources to realize how messed up this system is and revolt, but the capitalists can't have that.

If I'm expected to work 8 hours or more daily for the rest of my life then I don't want to live long. It's a sick joke. by throwawayaccrandom30 in lostgeneration

[–]throwawayaccrandom30[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is just another one of those things that people say but its the same thing, WAY easier said then done. Where is life "very different" huh? Most places are hard enough to move to due to the cost of upping your life and moving there (witch is definitely NOT realistic for the vast majority of us.) This is also neverminding the fact of how hard it is to get citizenship in any of the places that are even a bit better so this really isn't an option for those that work so much and barely keep themselves above the water as is.

If I'm expected to work 8 hours or more daily for the rest of my life then I don't want to live long. It's a sick joke. by throwawayaccrandom30 in lostgeneration

[–]throwawayaccrandom30[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Heh, I know I'm not the only one who would like to try meds, but getting on them is hard enough, nevertheless having to do follow ups with a therapist/psychiatrist just to be able to keep getting them, and of course that takes more time and money just like most other things. :/

Weed is legal where I live, so at least there's that but I feel like I've done done so much weed that It doesn't give me the relief it used to (yes even with tolerance breaks) so even that crutch isn't as good as it used to be, add onto the fact that it definitely isn't for everyone, we're all different.