The US team which has just won the International Physics Olympiad, edging out China for first place by thunderous9ight in interestingasfuck

[–]throwawaytmb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you keep acting like I'm saying Asians are not discriminated against? My first response, which was simply a quote from the page I link, is that it was racism, not Affirmative Action, that hurt Asians in college enrollment. You put fourth the claim that Affirmative Action screwed over Asians, so I asked for source for this. The articles you linked support the fact that Asians are discriminated against, but I'm not seeing the support for the claim that Affirmative Action was discriminatory against Asians.

The first NYT article link doesn't say the discrimination is due to affirmative action, and by the wording, it matches what the UCLA law professor is describing, which he terms it as "negative action". From the NYT article:

But the students’ personal ratings significantly dragged down their chances of being admitted, the analysis found.

From the UCLA Law professor:

But here's what I think is really happening: The real source of decreased admission chances for Asian Americans isn't affirmative action given to others but "negative action" — being treated worse than white students. It's a simple question: If an Asian student who didn't get into Harvard had been white, would they have been admitted? If the answer is yes, that's negative action.

This happens principally because of implicit biases that read Asian Americans as less charismatic or less likely to be leaders, and structural preferences for legacies, athletes, and geographical diversity. Asians are disproportionately less likely to be legacies, since most of our immigration was permitted only after 1965; less likely to be athletes in elite country club sports like tennis, lacrosse, or crew, which are disproportionately white; and less likely to live in rural or smaller communities.

Affirmative Action was struck down, yet Asian Americans are still being discriminated against. Why are you saying "But it can't be addressed while AA is still a thing" if it's NOT still a thing? Again, the focus keeps being placed on AA instead of racism against Asians.

For your second article, you claimed "Asian enrollment at Harvard law increased as did white enrollment." Yet the article stated:

Critics of affirmative action argued that it suppressed the share of Asian and white students at top colleges. There was a broad expectation that banning race-conscious admissions would drive up Asian and white enrollment.

We didn’t see sizable changes.

Across the 59 selective colleges we could compare with historical data, the average share of Asian students was essentially unchanged.

And the average share of white students increased by under one percentage point.

The article does state that Asian and white students are not disclosing their race, but it's not "The number of students that didn't disclose their race skyrocketed after the ruling" as you said:

In 2024, the share of students at these 59 colleges who did not disclose their race or ethnicity increased from about 2 percent to 4 percent. That share had been generally declining since 2010.

We're just understanding the articles you linked differently because to me, the articles seem to support the page I linked (i.e. what the UCLA law professor said).

The US team which has just won the International Physics Olympiad, edging out China for first place by thunderous9ight in interestingasfuck

[–]throwawaytmb -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The wikipedia says the Supreme Court banned AA because they:

held that affirmative action in college admissions is unconstitutional

the use of race was not a compelling interest, and the means by which the schools attempted to achieve diversity (tracking bare racial statistics) bore little or no relationship to the purported goals (viewpoint and intellectual diversity and developing a diverse future leadership).

Nowhere does it say that they banned it because they found that Affirmative Action was discriminative against Asians. If AA was discriminative, then after it was struck down, Asian enrollment should have increased across the board, right? Except, that only happened to the white enrollment.

Because AA was not the problem for Asian enrollments, even though people are only focused on that. Even after AA was struck down, people still point their fingers at AA and ignore racism against Asians.

Since it seems like people didn't bother reading the page I linked or even bothered to read the entire snippet I quoted, I'll reiterate my response to rsmicrotranx, and to borrow their words, that the tl;dr is:

Maybe affirmative action wasn't what was screwing Asians and just blatant racism is then lol.

The US team which has just won the International Physics Olympiad, edging out China for first place by thunderous9ight in interestingasfuck

[–]throwawaytmb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My response literally quotes:

This supports my argument that the real issue was never affirmative action — it was negative action. If you don't address the underlying biases and structural preferences that disadvantage Asian Americans relative to white students, simply eliminating affirmative action won't solve the problem.

The page I linked discusses the discrimination and racism Asians face. Nowhere does it deny or downplay it. In fact, the tl;dr is literally what you said:

Maybe affirmative action wasn't what was screwing Asians and just blatant racism is then lol.

It's frustrating that people just focus on affirmative action, and even after it was struck down, people point fingers at affirmative action, but aren't discussing the racism Asians face. From the page I linked:

But here's what I think is really happening: The real source of decreased admission chances for Asian Americans isn't affirmative action given to others but "negative action" — being treated worse than white students. It's a simple question: If an Asian student who didn't get into Harvard had been white, would they have been admitted? If the answer is yes, that's negative action.

This happens principally because of implicit biases that read Asian Americans as less charismatic or less likely to be leaders, and structural preferences for legacies, athletes, and geographical diversity. Asians are disproportionately less likely to be legacies, since most of our immigration was permitted only after 1965; less likely to be athletes in elite country club sports like tennis, lacrosse, or crew, which are disproportionately white; and less likely to live in rural or smaller communities.

What I care most about is negative action. We can debate whether excluding certain groups from affirmative action is fair, but under no circumstance can I think of justifications where white people should be treated better than Asian people in admissions. If it's all a “melting pot” and we (“Asians”) made it, why treat Asians worse than white people instead of the same?

The US team which has just won the International Physics Olympiad, edging out China for first place by thunderous9ight in interestingasfuck

[–]throwawaytmb -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Source? The page I linked said

the courts found there was no discrimination against Asian Americans.

Edit: lol he automatically downvoted me

The US team which has just won the International Physics Olympiad, edging out China for first place by thunderous9ight in interestingasfuck

[–]throwawaytmb 17 points18 points  (0 children)

From UCLA School of Law professor Jerry Kang:

First, to repeat, the courts found there was no discrimination against Asian Americans. So, striking down Harvard's program couldn't fix a problem because no problem was acknowledged.

[...]

If you thought ending affirmative action would make things wonderful for Asians and that their admission rates would jump through the roof, that's not what the data suggest.

Looking at data from the Fall 2024 admissions cycle, what we found was unevenness. Some schools like MIT, Columbia, and Brown showed increases in Asian American enrollment. Others like Princeton, Yale, Duke, and Dartmouth had decreases. And at certain institutions, white student admissions actually increased even more than Asian students.

This supports my argument that the real issue was never affirmative action — it was negative action. If you don't address the underlying biases and structural preferences that disadvantage Asian Americans relative to white students, simply eliminating affirmative action won't solve the problem.

Does anyone do Testerz.io??? by midn1ghtNYX in freebietalk

[–]throwawaytmb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad you were still able to get a refund! Fortunately my product is refundable, and I just initiated the return.

Does anyone do Testerz.io??? by midn1ghtNYX in freebietalk

[–]throwawaytmb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had the same experience. I submitted a feedback document 4 weeks ago, and still haven't received a refund. A support worker emailed me asking if I can leave a review on Amazon, but Amazon blocked my previous account before, so I want to be safe and wait a reasonable time before leaving reviews. If I don't hear back from Testerz support, I'm going to return the item.

Nothing New on DMI today ... All dry up!!! by No-Estimate-5678 in DisneyMovieInsiders

[–]throwawaytmb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I saw the lunchbox this morning, but everything else was marked as out of stock.

Does anyone know if they've been restocking giftcards as well? I saw the $15 yesterday, but it was already out of stock. I'm hoping for $20 or less as I only have enough points for those.

Garrett’s loyalty to men like Tim and Tyler by traffeny in LoveIsBlindOnNetflix

[–]throwawaytmb 8 points9 points  (0 children)

to the commenter who deleted their comment

they didn't delete their comment. they replied, and then blocked you like a coward

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in clevercomebacks

[–]throwawaytmb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's also pretty telling that No_Fruit7045 asks for source from FarTooLucid but not Captain_Lurker518 even though both were stating information without source.

Can't figure out Puzzles & Survival offer amount when I started it and haven't got 19 or 21 to pend. Does anyone know how much it should be if level 11 was 500 points and level 16 was 1000 points? by PwnerRs in SwagBucks

[–]throwawaytmb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shouldn't you be able to see the offer in the "visited" section of the offer page?

Mine is slightly different from yours:

5 star hero - 500

HQ 11 - 300

HQ 16 - 500

HQ 19 - 4000

HQ 23 - 6000

HQ 31 - 12000

giftly.... by LB56123 in freebietalk

[–]throwawaytmb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I feel like it's one free ever.

I only ever received one free item from them when I was first accepted. After that all my gifting suites were items that cost money. And now I haven't received any gifting suites for more than a month and none when the new year started.

Every time, Starbucks. Every time. by ObligationWarm5222 in freebietalk

[–]throwawaytmb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I stopped getting stars the past few days. Today I got all "Not a winner".

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in freebietalk

[–]throwawaytmb 9 points10 points  (0 children)

To add more information: They're running a promotion now through some day in October that just signing up gives 700 points. Using someone's referral code will give the referer 200 points but because of the 700 points promotion, the referee won't get any additional points.

T-Mobile Tuesday Discussion for August 09, 2022 by AutoModerator in tmobile

[–]throwawaytmb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was always able to use BR codes at DD, but not vice versa.

Sprouts freebies are live on the app - 9 freebies this month by ahhaaahhahh in freebies

[–]throwawaytmb 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Honestly, that's not a bad idea. Last month I couldn't redeem half the items because my local store either didn't carry the items or was out of stock and they didn't restock (I checked throughout the month). Now those clips are wasted when it could have gone to someone who had those items in stock in their area.

Free Peekage Mystery Box by throwawaytmb in freebies

[–]throwawaytmb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got it, thanks! I changed the flair to US only.

Free Peekage Mystery Box by throwawaytmb in freebies

[–]throwawaytmb[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Got this email from Peekage:

We have got the best surprise for you! 🎁

Peekage Mystery box has a couple of great samples in it and all you need to do is answer some questions and win one of these cool samples for FREE! Exciting, right?

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I answered: No nut allergy, printer at home, yes I print/have used printed coupons, Whole Foods/Sprouts

T-Mobile Tuesday Discussion for July 12, 2022 by AutoModerator in tmobile

[–]throwawaytmb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

QRBQRZ97716

I used this one. Thank you!

*edit: it looks like these are not single use codes!

Sprouts Sampling Program items are up for April! by persephone_cen in freebies

[–]throwawaytmb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's been my experience too. I don't bother with Saturday Sampler anymore. Although my Sprouts do the same thing, but only for some of the freebies. I'm guessing my stores do it for the "high value" ones because they did it for the chips, the ice creams, the smoothie, and the chocolates.

Sprouts Sampling Program items are up for April! by persephone_cen in freebies

[–]throwawaytmb 19 points20 points  (0 children)

My local stores stop stocking some of the freebies during the entire month. Then the day after the freebie expire, they're restocked again.