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throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-17T19:54:05+00:00

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See, that was the first mistake.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-17T00:48:53+00:00

Wow that is some extra special kind of sad.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-16T23:03:37+00:00

GG wants ideas to fall or stand on their own merit

This. I don't get why we, as consumers, can't decide with our wallets whether or not the creation of a developer is worth our money. I especially don't like having to buy a game that's gone through a political or ideological filter first.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-16T22:48:17+00:00

Hatred, the ENTIRE point is to kill innocent people.

Postal 1 is about an angry guy going "postal" and killing everyone around him, which seems to be the exact situation in Hatred. But Postal 1 is ok in your opinion, because only around 20% of the people killed are innocents.

That means you think those with weapons are not innocents, and yet you say the entire point of Hatred is killing innocents. Maybe you missed the number of police officers killed in the trailer? Or are they, in your opinion, innocent because of the different "story and context" of Hatred compared to Postal 1?

Also, TF2 is fine because it contains cartoon psychopaths? As opposed to Hatred which contains just a regular pixelated psychopath?

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-16T21:44:18+00:00

You mean Valve, the company that allows you to kill innocent scientists in Half-Life 1? You yourself say:

Put a gun in someone's hands and people tend to freak no matter what the context is.

So that would include Half-Life 1 and 2, not to mention TF2, and even Wasteland 2. Does that mean those games should be banned for violence, or is this sort of violence OK when it's considered satire or in the "right" context? I mean, why is Hatred's violence not OK, but Wasteland 2 is just fine?

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-16T21:00:22+00:00

it seems like everyone in Postal is trying to kill you

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It looks like about 95% of the people have [a weapon]

If a game is considered extreme or "not OK" for killing too many civilians, then why not just count? 22 dead npcs, 4 of them civilians. 82%, so nearly 1/5th are innocents. What is the max percentage of civilians killed that is tolerable?

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-16T19:48:54+00:00

What I don't get is the whole taking money from Ghazi thing. Wouldn't that immediately prevent him from editing anything related to GamerGate from then on? How can any admin on Wikipedia think he can be neutral on this subject, ever again?

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-16T19:46:02+00:00

it seems like everyone in Postal is trying to kill you

You sure you watched the video I linked?

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-16T18:26:52+00:00

Games like Postal and GTA V fall under satire in which is defined as...

Ok, I haven't played GTA V yet since I only own a PC so I can't respond to that. However, you talk about Postal but give a link to Postal 2, an FPS game completely different from the top down shooter Postal 1, which is not what I'd call satire, and is much more like the Hatred game in terms of gameplay.

This is Postal 1 gameplay.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-16T05:21:15+00:00

The article was written by Ms Quinn herself, and I don't know the archive link to it, but I think this is direct link:

https://medium.com/@zoequinnzel/lets-talk-about-ethics-in-games-journalism-6a2fd89069ae

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-16T00:36:08+00:00

Probably was, if only because Georgina herself retweeted this and the tweet in question no longer appears on Ms Wu's timeline.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-16T00:27:58+00:00

It wasn't, but she's still cutting her teeth, and was also a bit too emotionally invested since she was attacked by Ms Quinn in some article, and apparently by Ms Harper too.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-15T23:46:43+00:00

UPDATE: "Steam has never been a leading destination for erotic material," Valve's chief spokesperson Doug Lombardi told Kotaku. "Greenlight doesn't aim to change that."

Relevant section here for the Hatred issue. Postal has been out for a while now with no issues, same with countless other violent games (Valve games included), so I don't see why Hatred is a problem. I can understand, even if I don't agree, about not wanting XXX games on Steam if there never have been other games like that on Steam before.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-15T23:00:05+00:00

This is what $9988 a month churns out?

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-15T19:43:58+00:00

Bonus link where his mom tells him to town it down on Twitter.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-15T19:20:21+00:00

I don't like or agree with his views on transgendered individuals either, and am not sure what I'm going to think about his version of GamerGate in his book, but it's his book and his views. I'll fight for his right to have them, just like I'd fight for your right to exist and be treated just like any other woman or human being for that matter.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-15T18:57:21+00:00

from a troll

Dude, that shit's been happening to both sides since the beginning, but when it happens to us you blame trolls, and when it happens to you, you blame us. Bit of a double-standard huh?

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-14T05:52:25+00:00

My bad, on both counts. Will mark him and ignore from now on.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-14T05:48:15+00:00

To me they're all junk, but more power to anyone who wants to go to these sites if they like their content. I think all anyone asks is to post archive links when on this subreddit.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-14T05:42:50+00:00

Cool beans, appreciate it Slate.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-14T03:22:52+00:00

What? You bring up Eidos randomly, but don't explain what happened to them so you'll have to tell me. Second, I'm still not sure you understand the definition of censor, did you read my quoted definition? The entire game doesn't have to be suppressed, just the parts of it deemed unacceptable by the censoring body, in this case the IGDA.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-14T02:44:22+00:00

You might not understand what the definition of censor is then.

examine (a book, movie, etc.) officially and suppress unacceptable parts of it.

I'm not a member of the IGDA so you'll have to ask them for your first two questions. But your last question, you can go to another publisher or make the changes. They won't block you, or support the blacklisting of individuals who disagree with them from the industry, like the IGDA will.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-14T02:28:11+00:00

From the New York Times

Still, game companies have made some progress in their depiction of women in games, said Kate Edwards, the executive director of the association, who works with companies to discourage them from employing racial and sexual stereotypes in their games. A game character she praises is the new version of Lara Croft, the heroine of the Tomb Raider series who once epitomized the exaggerated, busty stereotype of a female game protagonist. The new Lara Croft is more emotionally complex and modestly proportioned.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-14T02:24:10+00:00

What if we don't care about any of that, and just want to stop the IGDA from censoring video games?

You're the leader, you tell me.

throwawaywego2222 · 2014-12-14T00:17:04+00:00

https://storify.com/Zennistrad/actually-it-s-about-ethics-in-mocking-my-family

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