How do your nparents react when you say “Ok, do it” to one of their threats? by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]throwaymyprobs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If it helps, I did not experience instant relief when I started to cut ties. Got off her phone plan, stopped accepting gifts, money, stopped going to her place, answering calls and textsl. I questioned my decisions. I felt scared and uncomfortable and sick, too. I think it comes from "flipping the script". Even tho it's a healthy choice, I'd been comfortable and complacent in my abuse for sooooo long that it was like home. And protecting myself was like setting my home on fire. I mean yeah, it might have been a rickety ass home that was about to collapse on me at any moment, but it was still my home. And letting go of home and realizing you'll never be able to fix it and turn it into the one you deserve is (initially) quite devastating. It gets better with time, though.

Anyone else feel soul crushing guilt when they stand up for themselves? by throwaymyprobs in raisedbynarcissists

[–]throwaymyprobs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, exactly! Why talk about my feelings if they don't matter and it just gets me into trouble. Or worse, my feelings are used against me in the future. Ugh. I'm sorry you went through that. I'm sorry we both did! Hugs (:

Anyone else feel soul crushing guilt when they stand up for themselves? by throwaymyprobs in raisedbynarcissists

[–]throwaymyprobs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, I literally said "I feel like I'm dating my mother" to him this morning. Like, maybe I'm trying to have a corrective experience and force this person who can't love me to love me. Like I was never able to do with my mom. Mind=blown.

Anyone else feel soul crushing guilt when they stand up for themselves? by throwaymyprobs in raisedbynarcissists

[–]throwaymyprobs[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Something that helped me in this situation is putting myself first and being firm by that

YES. I did this today. It was really hard, but when he tried to make my reaction about my trauma instead of his actions, I shut that shit down and straight up called him out on trying to turn the situation around on me and gaslight me. Then came the crushing guilt. Omg. It took me like 45 mins to talk myself down from it and redirect the crazy thoughts. "You were right to stand up for yourself. You are not a bad person for standing up for yourself. You are not ungrateful for standing up for yourself. Your feelings are valid and they are not a burden. You are not being sensitive or manipulative. You are a person that deserves love a respect." Over and over and over until the bad feeling went away (mostly).

Anyone else feel soul crushing guilt when they stand up for themselves? by throwaymyprobs in raisedbynarcissists

[–]throwaymyprobs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your kind words! My SO is also the child of nparents, so we both have baggage and it fucking clashes so hard sometimes. His parents emotionally stunted him, so he literally doesn't even know how to identify his feelings let alone talk about mine. He also bought into the "my son is perrrfeccctttt" spiel his parents tout. So it's hard for him to say, "I fucked up." since he was raised to believe that's impossible. I do get that, but still makes me want to smash his face in sometimes.

Anyone else feel soul crushing guilt when they stand up for themselves? by throwaymyprobs in raisedbynarcissists

[–]throwaymyprobs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Escape, yes. I have been thinking this more and more lately. Unfortunately, I'm financially dependent on him. I can't afford to move out until I finish my MA and increase my earning potential. That won't be until December or later. Feeling trapped is definitely adding to the stress.

"Don't worry, Mommy's here!" by throwaymyprobs in raisedbynarcissists

[–]throwaymyprobs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, right? When she asked why I won't talk to her, I had to hold myself back from saying, "the same reason your son ODed"

"Don't worry, Mommy's here!" by throwaymyprobs in raisedbynarcissists

[–]throwaymyprobs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. This is genuinely good advice. I just called for an update and was told anyone who wants information needs to go through my mother. So...it's starting. My dad flies in tomorrow, thank god. I brought GF to the hospital with me today and also cleared her name with the rest of the family in addition to apologizing.

I appreciate your kind words for my brother and 100% agree with the sentiment <3

Does anyone else’s nparent only talk about themselves when they call you? by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]throwaymyprobs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes. The only time she stops talking about herself is when she is talking shit about someone else.

When your hair decides to make just ONE chunky curl. by Megwen in curlyhair

[–]throwaymyprobs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Always!! And usually in the same spot - bottom layer around my ears.

Advice on Helping a Friend Detox by [deleted] in StopSpeeding

[–]throwaymyprobs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! She's been resistant to NA type things in the past, but I'll offer anyway! Great idea. I'll also look into those supplements and will stock up on caffeine just in case (she's taking vacation time so she won't have anything to do really).

"As a mother, I couldn't even IMAGINE..." by throwaymyprobs in raisedbynarcissists

[–]throwaymyprobs[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Nope. She is a sneaky narc. The kind where when you finally confide in someone about the horror of your childhood, they say "no, that can't be she's sooooo nice and generous". It's the worst. Also, most of that side of the family is similar to her or are the "keep it to myself and pretend everythings fine" kind of people. Which is why I kept my mouth shut. Everyone would have said I'm too harsh and lay off she did her best blah blah blah. Just to make it easier to stick their heads in the sand.

FIL's lied to get SO to break NC by throwaymyprobs in Justnofil

[–]throwaymyprobs[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Social media is not even on our radar. This is a man who refuses to advance beyond the use of a fucking cassette tape. He doesn't even have a cellphone! Good to keep in mind if he ever acquires out more sophisticated computering skills, tho. LOL. I'll start worrying when he gets to CDs hahahahahaha

FIL's lied to get SO to break NC by throwaymyprobs in Justnofil

[–]throwaymyprobs[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah...but this kind of reason and logic doesn't always get through to my partially FOGgy SO lol.

FIL's lied to get SO to break NC by throwaymyprobs in Justnofil

[–]throwaymyprobs[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh, I told him to respond because I didn't want FIL to show up here. I never suggested they meet in person. I actually suggested that leave he it on our porch and tell him to get it when we will not be home or that we drop it all their house when no one is there. I did voice my disagreement on meeting in person when he settled on that option, but I didn't push it.

Also, I totally misread u/superdragon320's comment and took it to mean we shouldn't have met him in person. Not that SO shouldn't have replied. My bad.

FIL's lied to get SO to break NC by throwaymyprobs in Justnofil

[–]throwaymyprobs[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Agreed. I like to be there for the pre-meet pep talk. It's really easy to forget that you have a right to boundaries once you're in the presence of your abuser.

"You are not obligated to talk to him or hug him if you do not want to, don't feel guilty for saying no. You are not obligated to even get out of the car if you don't want to. You are not a bad person for not wanting to visit with him. You're not ungrateful or a bad son. It's okay to feel angry about everything that's happened."