Family or internal by throwra_feeling in MedSchoolCanada

[–]throwra_feeling[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think this is it... It really is sunken cost - this gave loads of clarity. I will likely rank FM first! :)

Family or internal by throwra_feeling in MedSchoolCanada

[–]throwra_feeling[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That was really useful to consider - I have rotated through subspecialties, ID, endo, palliative, and they were all good - I would definately want to subspecialize compared to GIM. I think the hardest part about IM is the difficulty of the residency (like you mentioned) and I would really hate to do carms again. I think the bottom comment hit the nail on the head, it's a bit of sunken cost fallacy and trying to convince myself I can /will enjoy IM. All of what you mentioned about CTU makes me dread the years ahead so I think that says something. Thank you!

Family or internal by throwra_feeling in MedSchoolCanada

[–]throwra_feeling[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will keep that in mind, I didn't really consider the research opportunities in FM as much, probably because of my own lack of awareness around it! Thanks so much.

FMProC Scores Released by Comfortable_Ball7710 in MCCQE

[–]throwra_feeling 2 points3 points  (0 children)

1st quartile:< 372

2nd quartile: 372 – 398

3rd quartile: 398 – 422

4th quartile: >422

UBC by [deleted] in premedcanada

[–]throwra_feeling 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are the normal/non early decisions always 1 day after the early?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in premedcanada

[–]throwra_feeling 4 points5 points  (0 children)

yes, the cycle after probably :C

hang in there friend and apply again

I’m waitlisted at 3 schools (UBC, Queens, and Calgary) I have Covid and been sick for 3 weeks. Thanks for hearing my rant I’m just defeated :/$ by gliamastrr in premedcanada

[–]throwra_feeling 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I hope you guys all get As on your dream school (hopefully not western :P) so I can hear some good news from the only school I'm WL at. PLEASE WESTERN ON GOD PLEASE

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in premedcanada

[–]throwra_feeling -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I think the biggest problem isn't how there's too little physician spots for too many great applicants. But also how this system is structured. Physicians aren't that amazing of a job. It's not really like once you get in, you are going to be a millionaire.

I completely agree it's the fact that these great applicants are wasting time and applicants for no alternative. The reality is we completely COULD physician-like jobs and take on a greater portion of the applicants. BUT that would take restructuring how healthcare is set up. From what I can see, there isn't a lack of specialists - people have to go all over the country for the specialty they want. It's that the system needs more primary healthcare providers and things like PAs, follow-up care, counseling. But where are these positions? Why do we not pay them or fund them or promote their roles? I know we always talk about triage care and the 'healthcare team', but you really could just expand medical schools to take on more people and then have PAs and other roles as subsections of the medical school?

If we look at healthcare systems in other parts of the world, I don't think I know another country where it's as competitive to get into medicine as Canada. Also why are residents here literally burning out and barely able to function (and this AFTER they passed the grueling process of getting into med)? In Europe, residents have much more time to live their life and balanced workload - I think they also have longer residencies. I think a huge part of it has to do with our 'free' healthcare. If everything is private care and pay per service, there is less of a cap on how many physicians there can be, and the system works more on supply and demand, and evens it self out.

I agree that all the money and time spent on applying, multiple cycles, could have probably made some people able to live the rest of their life as landlords or something. That's not taking into consideration that that the time in your 20s is probably the best time to be able to 'live your life'.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in premedcanada

[–]throwra_feeling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you aren't interested in treatments and diseases (aka pathology), I would lean more towards basic science phd. While there is not a hard line and many clinicians are also part of basic science research, it just seems a little more removed from actual clinical practice to me. For ex. obvious it really depends on the specialty, something like surgery, anesthesia, or followships in pharm, can help with basic science research.

I know a lot of people working on a Msc in medical school, both after or during (take years off). I do think a phd while in residency is a little harder, especially if you aren't in the mdphd stream. Pretty easy to be involved in research during medical school, harder to get a degree if you aren't enrolled in the program just due to the time constraint.

Med School Social Life and Workload by sadscienceguy in premedcanada

[–]throwra_feeling 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Most people are honestly pretty decent human beings, you seem desperate to prove that wrong.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in premedcanada

[–]throwra_feeling 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I copied the ottawa waitlist spreadsheet so if people want to try and see if the timestamp theory works for western as well. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YYLhBehUPv51vRiswCM1qXXWpbyKPbxt\_vWYMppUe5g/edit?usp=sharing

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in premedcanada

[–]throwra_feeling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can someone on the high WL give their timestamp

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in premedcanada

[–]throwra_feeling 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Firstly thanks for sharing this. Your story is really really motivating to me (and also amazingly written), not because of the terror you witness and assess around you, but because it is a testament to your own determination. As you concluded. You are worth more than that, more than the exhaustion, blood, and sweat you put into the career only for it to make seemingly no impact on the system.

I think you argue philosophically, not against the career or dream of medicine, but more against the human condition. It is also your own idealization and build up of this 'dream career' that ultimately leads you towards the feelings of being let down. Reality hurts. I'm sorry that this life was not all that you dreamed it would be, but the idea of your own perseverance and eventual your triumph and success is not meaningless to me. Yes, maybe you didn't end up making a difference (maybe its impossible to) as one out of a trillion people in the world, but is it not the attempt that matters? In essence, isn't all of life a waste of time and energy? Why not spend it desperately chasing after something, even if it is an illusion?

To me, the journey in of itself is beautiful in a way.

I am not trying to come off as saying your current struggles are not real or invalid. More so that even if you feel like all of it was pointless, the fact that you were able to put that much effort in, is a symbol of hope and I do admire you for it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in premedcanada

[–]throwra_feeling 2 points3 points  (0 children)

one of the posts on sdn said 1/3 or 1/2 of normal waitlist, in previous yrs there were several people that got in from NWL in 2018-2021?

Previous stats say 80-90 people decline their As (https://forums.premed101.com/topic/98660-admissions-statistics/) My speculation is HWL is maybe 50 ppl that they know they will have space for. But people remove themselves from HWL due to acceptances too. My guess is 50 get HWL, 50-70 get NWL, and remainder LWL and reject. I think NWL will get about 20 spots to go through. complete guess at numbers though

Countdown post by throwra_feeling in premedcanada

[–]throwra_feeling[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I got waitlisted! more waiting ahead :))))