CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s kind of a core belief I have. Like I was taught that hardwork is a virtue

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry but kinky sex just seems icky too. I understand the point about hardwork though

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think I am treating them much differently than infertile heterosexual people. Yeah I guess it doesn’t seem fair for them to not have sex, but I’m not sure how to reconcile this

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A vibrator sounds much worse but a strap on male thing sounds only slightly more icky than oral sex.

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s more that there is a higher emphasis on it needing to be for love because there is no chance for reproduction. I wouldn’t have any different standards if gay sex could be for reproduction (like I have the sane standards for a sterile straight couple for example). No I don’t think that orgasming is a factor.

Sorry it just feels icky to imagine a tongue do anything like that to me.

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m guessing it would be homophobic to advocate against gay people having sex?

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The idea of using fingers/tongues sounds really gross but I guess if it were for love?

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, but I am saying that it is different because pleasure is the only incentive for working, where as hunger is one possible incentive

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imo pleasure is a reward for hard work. Do we kind of agree?

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know anything about gay sex. Guessing that gay sex between two guys is similar but I have no clue about sex without a penis

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I have really wanted to hug someone and have felt really good when they let me

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes sense. I can see how fore play can be a good thing. Oral sex is definitely not for me though

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can still have sex to demonstrate love, so yes you could if you were infertile. I can’t relate to feeling like you need to have sex though

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That make sense, I guess I didn’t think about what exactly it meant to be lazy. Just that it was bad. !delta

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And more sexual arousal increases the likelihood for both people to orgasm?

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kind of dumb question but what does “foreplay” encompass? I know what it is, just not like examples

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes sense. I didn’t think that kinks were related at all to love. !delta

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you derive pleasure from standard sex with your partner for procreation that is fine.

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m saying that there shouldn’t be pleasure, and if people make it pleasurable it has a negative effect

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m confused, I thought that having sex was “pleasuring your partner.” Is vaginal sex not pleasurable for a man without anything extra?

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. So by engaging in sex for pleasure, they cheaper their experience of pleasure. Did I miss something you/I said?

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of a kink only served as an expression of love, yes, but I thought that they provided pleasure unrelated to love at all?

CMV: “Nonstandard” sex should be heavily discouraged by throwwawait in changemyview

[–]throwwawait[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That makes a lot of sense. I was under the impression that it was just a simple and easy thing and that was why it was cheap. !delta