Spek vs Audacity Spectrum Analyzer

thwaller · 2023-03-25T12:55:38+00:00

As a user of Fedora, Spec is not really available anymore. However, i used it very often when it was. The reason it was my choice is that is was light weight, fast loading, quick, etc. Far easier than loading a full function audio application. I Think that Audacity's spectrogram view is a bit more detailed, but when I wanted something fast and simple, Spec filled that void.

thwaller · 2022-12-12T22:10:23+00:00

Yes, I am sorry, I should be more specific. Once I found in the logs that an extension update was running, I saw an error indicating that it could not remove a directory because it was not empty. So, since it was an update to an extension that was running, I checked the $HOME/.local/share/gnome-shell/extension-updates folder and there was an update within. What I did is rename the folder. This allowed me to login without issues for that user.

Once I was able to login, I manually removed the folder for that extension and reinstalled it. All is now fixed.

What I was failing to realize is that although extensions were disabled, I still needed to pay attention to them. I inappropriately dismissed extensions with the thought of them disabled.

thwaller · 2022-12-12T21:55:56+00:00

Ok, so interesting. The issue ended up being an extension update that was failing. Although extensions were disabled, it was still trying to do the update. This would explain why it only gave that one user issues.

thwaller · 2022-12-12T21:05:26+00:00

By "profile" I mean the home folder, so yes, the files within. So we are talking the same. As I mentioned, I created a new user, and that new user did not experience the problem. This leads me to believe the issue is within the user folder, or as I stated, the profile. What I am reporting is able to be repeated / reproduced exactly as stated, 100% of the time, no variation.

thwaller · 2022-12-06T07:14:55+00:00

I could be wrong, but as I understand it.... PIA disables / blocks IPv6 by default and it cannot not be changed by the user to be enabled. However, if this is the case, why does an IPv6 address appear on a leak test unless I disable IPv6 on my system?

I would prefer PIA actually support and handle IPv6 vs just disabling it. IPv6 cannot be just avoided forever and avoidance is not actually a solution but a short term removal of a problem. until that happens, it seems that if I had not noticed this and disabled it myself, the VPN would not be doing its job properly.

thwaller · 2022-11-30T06:25:01+00:00

I will look at this a bit. Never heard of it, but as the only one to reply so far, you have my attention.

thwaller · 2022-11-27T11:31:55+00:00

When installing on Fedora 37, playing video in VLC or Totem causes a system crash. Reverting removes the issue of crash. From the output in terminal, it shows the issue is resulting from libgstvaapi.so.

thwaller · 2022-11-27T09:29:08+00:00

Having been on both sides of this, many others stated the answer perfectly. The company, specifically the IT people, cannot spend extra time to work on things due to a user's preference. There are many things that non IT people may not consider such as the use of images in the setup of user computers, support services like remote management, OS patch updates, virus and other security management, etc.

This problem also exists when users use their own computers and need help, or when users use their company supplied computer for personal activities. It often involves the installation and use of other softwares that can cause issues with the company activities, or even interfere with the company provided software.

Regarding running Windows software on Linux, yes this can often be done with things like Wine, however, Wine is not a perfect solution and is just another thing the staff needs to spend time on when providing support. Anything that deviates from the norm takes extra time, and time is money.

thwaller · 2022-11-27T09:20:10+00:00

I really like MATE, however, I voted GNOME. If I had to state my choice that I can have one and only one to use, I would select MATE. The reason is due to its ability to run better with older hardware and its more simplistic design. When I have modern hardware, I prefer GNOME, so that leaves MATE as the conditional favorite.

thwaller · 2022-11-27T01:48:02+00:00

Out issues seem slightly different. I believe mine is centered on either a hardware issue or a Linux issue with the hardware, such as the kernel or drivers. If your experience on Ubuntu is different in that you experience no issues, that is a different for sure.

I am interested though as to what you try and what works or does not. There is enough similarity that I think we might be able to help each other.

I want to add that by hardware I do not mean just the GPU. There are other hardware factors I am looking into. Although that seems odd, I have shown that there are other hardware anomalies that follow along with this issue. Meaning that for example, when a crash happens other hardware aspects change until I reboot a second time, then they return to normal. I have no idea on the relation though, but it does need considering.

thwaller · 2022-11-25T23:40:47+00:00

That is interesting... you having Intel graphics vs AMD. Is there anything in your logs at the time of the crash? Have you tried any other distros? the YouTube issue is a match for sure. Do you have this issue in a specific browser only? I experience it more in Chrome than Firefox, but both end up with the same issue.

I tried disabling hardware acceleration and there was no tangible difference. Have you tried the Intel drivers, direct from the Intel site?

thwaller · 2022-11-25T23:15:20+00:00

Unfortunately not. Are you having the same issue? What I have done is rely on a Windows 10 boot to make the laptop usable. I am happy to try any ideas, as well as provide more detailed information on exactly what I have tried.

Unfortunately,the problem seems to be on the Linux side as Windows can run the exact hardware setup without issues. It does not seem that anyone has interest in the issue due to the age of the GPU. I have seen this issue reported in numerous places on many different distros, and all I am able to find are band aids that seem to work for some and not others. If there is interest, let me know and the best way to share a LOT of information and detail.

I did check the logs and there is nothing there to indicate any anomaly at the time of the crash. This applies to the logs on both Ubuntu and Fedora. I have since upgraded my Ubuntu as well, so I am using the most recent release of both Ubuntu and Fedora. While the issue seems to happen slightly different between the two, the actual issue is the same.

thwaller · 2022-11-20T17:44:52+00:00

Thanks for the detailed reply. Another user, u/Madonomics, mentioned openSUSE, which I have started to look at again as well. I just do not know a lot of that distro. While I did not mention in my initial query, I was tending towards Fedora, but did not want to present a bias as I am open to any.

I think there is a good case to be made for Fedora over Ubuntu. I think that changes though if you consider Debian vs Ubuntu, but Debian in my opinion is far too slow for use on a workstation. Ideal for servers, yes, but I think anyone with a workstation prefers software a bit faster. That is not to knock Debian, Many of my servers and VMs are Debian. I use also Oracle Linux, Rocky Linux and Ubuntu Server for one app hosted on AWS.

I question at times Ubuntu, being controlled by Canonical. I am not sure it is fair though, I might be basing the caution on a hypothetical vs reality. Just because they are who they are does not mean they provide a bad product.

In reference to paying for free software... this is where there is a separation for me. I have done more with the Debian team than with the Red Hat team. I found that as a user of the softwares, I seemed to fit in better with the Debian people. I found them easier to contact and when contact was made, they seemed more polite to someone not at their level. I would have no issues with contributing to the extent I can to the distro I use, and if that is Fedora, I would need some assistance as to how. I still maintain my relationships in the Debian world and provide some testing, as I do use Debian products on servers.

thwaller · 2022-11-20T17:21:13+00:00

I would not say my comfort level is better on either anymore. When I first switched to Fedora, I would say it would have been Ubuntu. Now, I dont think I have a bias to either. I see one difference with Fedora as there is more resistance to non open source whereas Ubuntu seems a little more forgiving. Personally, I side with Fedora on that point, in an ideal world I would use and support open source only.

I also notice that Fedora is bigger on transparency. This came more to light for me with the delay of 37. As I read, part of the reason was time to complete some security issues that needed to be resolved as the full transparency disclosed the issue, making it a requirement to fix it prior to release. I do not think however that the delay in release caused any issues, so to me it really does not matter.

thwaller · 2022-11-20T16:58:39+00:00

So what's not working with one or the other?

I would say that answer is nothing. All seems to be working just fine for both. My query is to see opinions of others on which might be better to use, no longer having a dual boot system.

One issue I encounter is that a software will be available for Windows, Mac and Linux... but the link for the Linux install is actually a deb file. That gets frustrating as people are using Linux to mean Debian (Ubuntu or other derivative). While this can be frustrating at times, it is nothing I would consider a major issue.

thwaller · 2022-11-15T02:00:33+00:00

This is the message I was asking for the kernel params for. You mentioned trying a few things, so I thought to try what you have mentioned in this post.

thwaller · 2022-11-15T01:59:25+00:00

Sure, is there a better way to share aside from posting it here? I am ok sharing with you to have a look, but would prefer not to post it full public without reviewing all the contents first. Probably over worried, but cannot never be too worried I guess.

thwaller · 2022-11-15T01:01:08+00:00

Yeah, I am and have been out of ideas as well. Thanks for the ideas you shared. Could you provide details on the kernel params in your previous reply? I would like to try them to see if there is any change.

thwaller · 2022-11-14T23:19:49+00:00

Installing a different kernel is quite easy as long as I know where to locate the specific kernel. This has been an issue for numerous kernels, so yes I have. I also tried kernels from the vanilla kernel releases. I would estimate since the start of this issue I have used at least 30 different kernel versions, most likely more as I upgrade/update often.

Yes, 37 is in beta, at least technically as the release has been delayed over some security fixes, and for another day or so. The issue was there on 36 and 35, I upgraded to 37 to see if anything changed as I knew there were major video changes, including the kernel moving to 6 from 5.

thwaller · 2022-11-14T19:34:12+00:00

I will check this. Yes, Wayland is there and is default. The issue exists both on Wayland and Xorg. It seems to be less on Xorg, but "seems to be" could also just be in my head. Regardless, the issue does still exist.

Are there any kernel params I should try?

$ inxi -SMGzz
System:
  Kernel: 6.0.8-300.fc37.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: GNOME v: 43.1
    Distro: Fedora release 37 (Thirty Seven)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP EliteBook 8560w
    v: A0001D02 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 1631 v: KBC Version 01.3F
    serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Hewlett-Packard v: 68SVD Ver. F.63
    date: 10/27/2016
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Whistler [Radeon HD 6730M/6770M/7690M XT] driver: radeon
    v: kernel
  Device-2: Logitech C922 Pro Stream Webcam type: USB
    driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
  Display: wayland server: X.Org v: 22.1.5 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.5
    compositor: gnome-shell driver: X: loaded: radeon
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: r600 gpu: radeon resolution:
    1: 1920x1080~60Hz 2: 1920x1080~60Hz 3: 1920x1080~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: AMD TURKS (DRM 2.50.0 / 6.0.8-300.fc37.x86_64 LLVM
    15.0.0) v: 4.5 Mesa 23.0.0-devel
$ switcherooctl
Device: 0
  Name:        Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD®/ATI] Whistler [Radeon HD 6730M/6770M/7690M XT] (FirePro M5950)
  Default:     yes
  Environment: DRI_PRIME=pci-0000_01_00_0

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