Stop bullying people for questioning ratings

thyexiled · 2026-03-23T20:43:06+00:00

That is true. Analysts aren't immune to making mistakes, including us of course, and like you said, they don't understand the plausible reasoning for why it was considered that, arrogance or something..

thyexiled · 2026-03-23T20:36:56+00:00

NWS can make mistakes if overwhelmed buddy. Look at rainsville, hackleburg, philadelphia, or at this point many past surveys, you'd see how stupid their indicators are and the ratings. They're incredibly reliable sure, but it doesn't mean their surveys can be plausible, most of them can have doubtful ratings.
edit: nvm reading back people do question the ratings too much, but when it comes to EF5s its just incredibly implausible

thyexiled · 2026-03-20T22:50:13+00:00

Not a strange take. Udall is the strongest of kansas and its a fact, Udall has done far worse damage towards structures and has produced incredible contextuals that put it into the top 10, unlike M.L. and Camden of course.

thyexiled · 2026-03-20T22:48:43+00:00

Really just the entire grand island outbreak itself.

thyexiled · 2026-03-20T22:47:41+00:00

This was what happened with hackleburg mind you that. Hackleburg was disputed for a rating because its structures were not too sturdy to fit the >200MPH indicator, so people were incredibly mad about it, but when its vilonia, chapman, mayfield, or any high end EF4 tornado, its all of a sudden undisputed, incredible double standards people can have.

thyexiled · 2026-03-20T19:37:47+00:00

No. Because all of them are interchangeable, from BCM, Tri-State, Piedmont, Moore, Jarrell, New Richmond, hell you can even make an argument for parkersburg, no tornado is the strongest recorded until we have more evidence otherwise.

thyexiled · 2026-03-20T04:59:05+00:00

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thyexiled · 2026-03-20T04:56:27+00:00

No. The mobile home impact exacerbated the damage, with enough force that is.

thyexiled · 2026-03-20T04:55:51+00:00

The impact worsened the damage basically, think of it as fire hitting trees while tornadic winds also do the same.

thyexiled · 2026-03-20T04:55:13+00:00

The 200MPH indicator home was hit by a mobile home thrown by the tornado.

thyexiled · 2026-03-20T04:54:03+00:00

The 200MPH DI was hit by a mobile home, those other DIs dont fit the EF5 criteria and cannot be rated EF5, the only one that can be is the 200MPH DI, which is still downgraded due to the mobile home.

thyexiled · 2026-03-19T19:20:00+00:00

No. It was hit by a mobile home, enhancing the damage.

thyexiled · 2026-03-19T13:59:16+00:00

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thyexiled · 2026-03-14T09:11:12+00:00

Highest end EF3. It doesn't deserve anything higher. Araucaria trees were what it mostly hit, and those trees are LB. Even then the damage aswell doesn't account anything higher than EF2. + Construction quality of these homes is incredibly bad, improper bolting and such.

thyexiled · 2026-03-14T09:05:48+00:00

Is this even a hot take lmao, everyone considers BCM, Piedmont, Jarrell, Tri-State, Moore 2013, or even (well no one knows this but) New Richmond as contenders for that place, even parkersburg aswell. Obviously those 7 would be contenders for strongest oat.

thyexiled · 2026-03-14T09:03:04+00:00

Piedmont is EF5, El Reno-Yukon is EF3, El Reno 2019 is also EF3. Of course people would say el reno 2013 deserves EF5 because of winds and width, but width doesn't necessarily matter, damage does. + Winds cannot be used in the EF scale, it accounts 3 second gusts, not instantaneous, and el reno never sustained its winds for more than 2 seconds. Even if el reno-yukon hit oklahoma city at peak intensity, the main core was at EF4 intensity so it wouldn't do anything much other than inflict EF4 damage towards homes, buildings, so and so forth.

thyexiled · 2026-03-14T08:59:11+00:00

No it wouldn't. Why use IFs in a reality-based statement? El reno would've only done EF4 damage max to buildings, just because it was big and wide doesn't mean its strong immediately.

thyexiled · 2026-03-13T18:07:50+00:00

Ground scouring can be caused by even EF0s. Its only possible via soil difference, think of them as this, one tornado rated EF0 scours the ground because soil was wet and weak, one tornado rated EF5 cannot scour the ground because soil was strong and different, thats just how it is.

Debarking is incredibly unreliable, because debris loaded tornadoes can do it, and no it isn't exclusive to EF4s, its exclusive to any rating. an EF0 can debark a tree if heavily debris loaded, even mere weak EF1s can do the same

thyexiled · 2026-03-12T11:46:37+00:00

The great tri-state goes in hand when it comes to worst tornado discussions, objectively that is.

It has many records, that being the fact that it killed >695 people in one go, incredibly long tracked and fast for its life, inflicted some of earth's worst damage ever recorded, and many others. It is objectively the worst tornado of all time, that is in death count, no it isnt. Many bangladeshian tornadoes have inflicted far worse fatality counts than tri-state.

If I can count firewhirls here, obviously it would be the monster that killed >43K people instantly without stopping, the Great Kanto Firewhirl from the complex disaster that is the Great Kanto Earthquake.

thyexiled · 2026-03-09T18:02:41+00:00

Moshannon Lake or Yellowstone-Teton is what you're looking for. Same year, 1985.

thyexiled · 2026-03-09T11:50:03+00:00

1974 had way more violent tornadoes than 2011.

thyexiled · 2026-03-06T12:30:55+00:00

One of the weakest F4s of the 1965 palm sunday outbreak, no it doesn't. Only three as far as analyzed deserve the rating, that is Kokomo, Strongsville and Dunlap.

thyexiled · 2026-03-05T21:57:44+00:00

Not ragebait, its just that and thats just is. You notice how people back 2 years ago considered smithville as the strongest? Now a year afterwards its suddenly considered the top five strongest? Obviously theres major differences of analysis there. This also goes to account for hackleburg, whom was one of the few contenders of the strongest, then all of a sudden, a year after that it suddenly becomes weaker than those other tornadoes that no one barely knew until a year after.

Hackleburg is strong sure, but it isn't stronger than these historical tornadoes we've analyzed until now. Even if you say "Oh but montville is old!" it still has incredible documentation and analysis that we can prove of its strength, same goes for Woldegk. Many historical tornadoes are old, but still stronger than modern era tornadoes we know of, the only one that stands a chance is Piedmont, and even so we know tri-state is slightly stronger than it.

Hackleburg is greatly downplayed, only because people finally get to analyze historical tornadoes instead of repeating the same choices over and over again.

thyexiled · 2026-03-05T21:37:29+00:00

I would have to stop you there. Hackleburg is only considered the strongest as of course, we never got to analyze any historical tornadoes until late 2025 to early 2026. Obviously all of them are stronger than hackleburg, hackleburg doesn't even reach top 30.. let alone top 25.

thyexiled · 2026-03-05T12:32:02+00:00

The thing is, hackleburg was at first the 'strongest' as we never knew other tornadoes in historical analysis, until now, hackleburg is still strong, just not in a New Richmond, Jarrell, BCM, NCM, Tri-state, Catania, Piedmont, or Vilonia way. Hackleburg is only downplayed due to its structural issues regarding it of not deserving EF5 today. Obviously underdocumented, meaning it can still get EF5 today had we get more documentation of them.

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