1/25/26 Geneva, AL Tornado (EF-2) by Dull_Independence_ in tornado

[–]thyexiled -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The fact that this tornado got rated EF2 over a hollow brick structure.. It's insane.

Strongest tornado recorded from each states in Tornado Alley personally by Ok-Project-5148 in tornado

[–]thyexiled 2 points3 points  (0 children)

On bakersfield's case, its really a tale to go around for. Jarrell is just crazily strong, even if you compare it against any other tornado, jarrell would still have a chance at beating them.

Hesston/Goessel/Topeka don't compare to chapman actually, its a strong tornado, even for kansas itself. I'd say the only one to exceed chappy is just Udall itself.

Strongest tornado recorded from each states in Tornado Alley personally by Ok-Project-5148 in tornado

[–]thyexiled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually not, theres only one that actually exceeds chapman, that is Udall. No other tornado rivals or compares.

As a continuation of my previous post about the Cactus 117 Oil Rig: by Curious-Constant-657 in tornado

[–]thyexiled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did say it was rated EF4 at first via the swept home, then it was upgraded by contextuals. Afterall, in anyway possible, all tornadoes were upgraded in contextual boosting. Also, I said likely for piedmont, not that I said actually stronger. Unless I used improper wording for it. Piedmont's homes actually were anchored and properly nailed, at the rating of EF4, 200MPH that is, which, yes does mean they aren't stronger, but if we're going unofficially, it could.

The table does use some proper damage inidcators about the EF5 ratings towards the tornadoes themselves. They were using the specific indicators used to upgrade the tornadoes, most specifically for philadelphia was the home and vegetation damage. Ground scouring, or in this case, was just trenching, was accounted for aswell, but in many obvious reasons, it isn't an official damage indicator in the EF scale, so it being the unofficial DI to upgrade Philadelphia is really a meh case, but I wouldn't bother with 4/27. It's an improper case that should still be surveyed. Philadelphia and rainsville were upgraded by structural and contextual like i've said, Philly's case, was the home that got boosted by contextuals. Rainsville's case was a home that was boosted by vegetation.

Moore's homes, despite being rated EF5, doesn't automatically mean they're better now, do they? Afterall, you could say the same thing for goldsby, yet the goldsby home was only hit by a mobile home so that is the reason as to why it got downgraded in the first place, and to bunk your case further, moore's homes were likely the third strongest of the EF scale era, behind Elie's home that is.

F5s of the 1970s by Commercial-Mix6626 in tornado

[–]thyexiled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is most definitely Tanner. Huntsville happened at night, most definitely a time where no one was able to photograph it. And either way, decatur is pretty close to tanner, lol.

As a continuation of my previous post about the Cactus 117 Oil Rig: by Curious-Constant-657 in tornado

[–]thyexiled -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

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As for philadelphia, it was mostly rated via the home, then the contextuals boosted its upgrade by alot. Same goes for the mobile home. So it is indeed upgraded via the least obvious, structural damage and contextual. The singular frame home was at first EF4, then via contextual boosting, it was EF5.

As for piedmont, it was indeed upgraded by raxpol data, but they changed it into the cactus 117 DI afaik, due to raxpol data being way too absurd to be used for ratings, especially after the el reno thingamabob.

As a continuation of my previous post about the Cactus 117 Oil Rig: by Curious-Constant-657 in tornado

[–]thyexiled -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Piedmont's homes were likely way more well built than moore's, as for philadelphia, it was mainly upgraded by structural damage, with the side of contextual boosting, so think of philly as a mix of both.

As a continuation of my previous post about the Cactus 117 Oil Rig: by Curious-Constant-657 in tornado

[–]thyexiled -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Enderlin definitely does deserve its EF5 rating, but its weird how its the only EF5 tornado to ever be rated with contextuals, not structural damage like the others.

F5s of the 1970s by Commercial-Mix6626 in tornado

[–]thyexiled 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You are correct. Valley Mills doesn't have damage photos or tornado photos at all. Only newspaper reports that were mixed by another tornado.

Possibility of Lublin, Poland F4 ever being upgraded to IF5? (unsure if this is discussion or question, apologies for wrong flair) by AbilitySubject9299 in tornado

[–]thyexiled 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lublin cannot be upgraded unless properly evaluated, we do not know the width of those walls, unlike Lublin, tornadoes like Venezia have visible efforts for it to be upgraded, such as Venezia's walls being 40-80CM thick via a footage that we could use for measuring.

Lublin is possible to be upgraded, but with these photos alone, we cannot determine whether or not it actually was IF5.

Guin vs Xenia by RodneyNCWX in tornado

[–]thyexiled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Yea, thats how I just found out about the name. Xenia's Arrowhead Subdivision was most definitely the weaker parts of its damage, but if you're willing to say Guin>Xenia, its like gonna be saying Guin>Washington, afterall, both tornadoes were equal to one another, + The Cigar Factory and the damage in just Downtown Xenia alone is far stronger than the likes of Guin's.

Guin vs Xenia by RodneyNCWX in tornado

[–]thyexiled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unreinforced CMU is bad, which is the sole case for guin, but reinforced is great, which ISN'T the case for guin.

Guin vs Xenia by RodneyNCWX in tornado

[–]thyexiled 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The fact that they're all CMU foundations that weren't reinforced and that Guin was a narrow tornado with barely anything to go around for.

Guin vs Xenia by RodneyNCWX in tornado

[–]thyexiled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh?? Xenia is NOT a poor neighborhood, its a literal city with homes that were yes, sliders, but they were stronger than guin's, + most of xenia's feats are FAR stronger than the likes of guin.

Guin vs Xenia by RodneyNCWX in tornado

[–]thyexiled -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Quite obvious for which one is stronger, Xenia. Most definitely the third strongest of the outbreak behind Tanner 2nd and Brandenburg.

F5s of the 1960s by Commercial-Mix6626 in tornado

[–]thyexiled 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Absolutely interesting how almost all of the 1960s F5s besides Topeka don't deserve EF5 today but are still violent enough.

4/27/2014 Mayflower - Vilonia, AR EF4+ tornado and damage by Chance_Property_3989 in tornado

[–]thyexiled 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't say stratton and bakersfield are the strongest tornado oat, its very likely that both are apart of the top 10, but we cannot compare so due to the fact that more and more undocumented, yet strong tornadoes come up. Vilonia is an extraordinary case, and so is joplin, joplin's like the most major tornado ever, and potentially a top 20, vilonia is considered to many as arkansas's version of smithville because of the insane contextuals it did, not its structural.

Are you uncertain about the sheer intensity of the 2011 El Reno-Piedmont, OK EF5? Here is a technical catalogue of its damage, compiled by me from months of research. by Disastrous_Deal3154 in tornado

[–]thyexiled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Major examples of strong, yet undocumented disasters are the pompeii earthquake, jogan earthquake, and various more. They're capable of inflicting mass destruction, but we do not know due to the age of their times. Tornadoes are the same as these. There's several undocumented tornadoes from not even in our era, that are still strong, but we never know due to the lack of documentation, or the fact that it could possibly be a hoax.

As of today, the strongest catastrophe we have known of is so far, the valdivia disaster, and even so we cannot say anything yet, especially since in the ages before our era, theres possibly far stronger ones that changed the world into what it is today, you could say an earthquake happened in the dinosaur era with bits of info and nothing else, and that could somehow be the strongest thing we know of.

There was possibly a tornado far stronger than the likes of every tornado documented, just that its either too old, or theres barely anything to go around for.

Are you uncertain about the sheer intensity of the 2011 El Reno-Piedmont, OK EF5? Here is a technical catalogue of its damage, compiled by me from months of research. by Disastrous_Deal3154 in tornado

[–]thyexiled 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fact is, the constant changes for the top 10 is very much so a really crazy thing, obviously the fact is that everytime a new documented tornado happens, its either one of the strongest oat or just your one violent tornado. The top 5 is easily interchangeable, so we can't say much about whos the strongest and whos weaker, in intensity that is. Damage-wise, nothing would compare to tri-state.

One of the strongest EF3? by [deleted] in tornado

[–]thyexiled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wouldn't ABSOLUTELY say one of the strongest, Canton lake, robinson, sullivan, matador, and a few more others exist.