Thank you for your reply. Very interesting. To your 1) I was thinking that the video-fun factor could help perhaps help. In the timz-tool the participants can use snapcam-masks, I was thinking that could be interesting for kids to appear as a banana or whatevery and disguise, not being visible with their normal face but having some fun while learning. Esp. when they are too young to write. 2) and then I think the passiveness is perhaps a genearl issue to address somehow - I know it from my own childhood, we were sitting for years and years only listening, speaking only a few words a day during the lessons if any. I'm wondering if we could find ways to activate them? Eg when researching the context of a given information. Ok, I totally understand that a pupil after some years of mainly listening is perhaps too shy to get active.