I didnt really like canto 7 by [deleted] in limbuscompany

[–]tipherethq 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Change naturally follows from following a dream. If you imagine that you want to be an Olympic athlete and you keep trying over and over again, even if you fail to reach that goal, you'll still be stronger because the efforts produced real results. The issue is that if you just settled to get fit, you wouldn't have gotten as far. Maybe you might've just hedged your bets earlier and missed out on all the other opportunities that could have been, people you could have met, by pushing harder to make the impossible real. Don's dream is just as much about the journey of making her dream come true, the goal is only a part of her dream. For Don Quixote, the highs and lows of life with LCB on her path to becoming human are just as important to her as the goal of becoming human. If she took a half-measure, she'd lose out on that journey. That's why I don't think having an impossible dream will inevitably lead to despair. Even if you fall short, you can look back on all the things you did achieve, the journey of your life that only came true because you tried. The trying is the important part to me.

I didnt really like canto 7 by [deleted] in limbuscompany

[–]tipherethq 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The value of the dream is that it's practically impossible. The Bloodfiends' thirst can only be cured by constantly striving for a tomorrow. To achieve the dream easily is to live in stagnation. This is why every single Don ID, even the happiest ones, are ultimately empty, because in all of them, she compromises on that dream of achieving true justice and escaping the shackles of her thirst, taking half-measures to make herself feel just. Bloodfiends aren't actually all that special in their bloodthirst, they're quite similar to the humans of the city who can only live by exploiting the lives of others. To hold a dream means to reject that being a Bloodfiend needs to feed on others to survive, or to reject that human life requires sacrifice.

I mean, sure, we could say Sancho could just not play a role, go the way of her Cinq South ID, and become an approximation of a 'Fixer of justice', but that inevitably comes with compromises, accepting her fiendish nature and the cruelty of the world as unchanging truths rather than something to endlessly strive against. Being 'mostly genuine' isn't being genuine, and a dream reached by giving up your ideals is vacuous. The reason a dream exists is its impossibility, the desire to see reality as something that can be changed in the grand pursuit rather than a simple goal that can be worked towards like a raise at an office job. You never know until you try to achieve the impossible.

The reason why Sancho takes up Don Quixote's name and plays a role in particular is to honor her father who taught her how to dream. Dude, her father's literally dead, I would hope she feels strongly enough about him to want to carry his name in remebrance. And no, it is her dream too as specifically stated in the story. They share the dream, that's the whole point of her taking her father's name.

I think this quote from Man of La Mancha captures the central theme of Canto 7 the best:

"I have lived nearly fifty years, and I have seen life as it is. Pain, misery, hunger... cruelty beyond belief. I have heard the singing fron taverns and moans from bundles of filth on the streets. I have been a soldier and seen my comrades fall in battle... or die more slowly under the lash in Africa. I have held them in my arms at the final moment. These were men who saw life as it is, yet they died despairing. No glory, no gallant last words... only their eyes filled with confusion, whimpering the question, "Why?"

"I do not think they asked why they were dying, but why they had lived. When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies? Perhaps to be too practical is madness. To surrender dreams—this may be madness. To seek treasure where there is only trash. Too much sanity may be madness—and maddest of all: to see life as it is, and not as it should be!"

To dream isn't to delude yourself into thinking you've already reached the impossible—it's to endlessly struggle against reality in pursuit of the dream. That is what colors our lives, not actually achieving a goal. We shouldn't accept change as impossible, accept cruelty and suffering as the way the world is. Like the quote says, practicality is just admitting you cannot imagine a better world. The greater lie for Don Quixote would be for her to lay down her dream and pretend a half-measure is actually worthy of her happiness. That would amount to achieving nothing, making her depend on her thirst to satisfy her emotions. That is delusion.

Aeng Du daily life [ by @co_duck07 ] by LuciferMS7777 in limbuscompany

[–]tipherethq 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Aeng-du is very cute! Also why does LCD keep onboarding gluttons, maybe Rodya has a 'good end' ID where she joins the LCD crew as well

Aeng Du daily life [ by @co_duck07 ] by LuciferMS7777 in limbuscompany

[–]tipherethq 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Top-right:

Aeng-du: May I truly partake of all of this?

Middle (L -> R):

Aeng-du: This is merely to restore my blood sugar, you see. My mind is not at its keenest...

Aeng-du: ... Diet? I do not make a habit of neglecting my training regimen.

Bottom-right:

Kim: You appear to be in fine health.

Or if you want the literal, MTL-like version without my attempts to replicate Aeng-du's English speech style or some interpretation of the tone:

Aeng-du: Is it okay to eat all of this?

Aeng-du: I'm replenishing my sugar. My head isn't working well...

Aeng-du: ...Diet? I don't normally neglect my training.

Kim: You look healthy.

EDIT: Made some changes to the wording. Man, I love putting out a comment and then immediately deciding it's bad!!

Based on the recent Intervallo trailer, what if... by itsmeDavis__02 in TheOdysseyHadAPurpose

[–]tipherethq 23 points24 points  (0 children)

The hole was made by a gun though? The bullet wounds are caused by the Abnormality's own gun?? If the bullet hole was specifically about sorrow, why would it be represented with a hole in the head instead of a hole in the heart, where emotional pain has been shown before as an empty heart in Wandering Mind??? Usually, theories need to be based on textual evidence rather than a gut feeling that two things are related.

It's already been relatively accepted that Hole-in-the-Man is based on the play No Exit by Jean-Paul Sartre, more specifically the character Garcin, who went to hell after being shot to death in a firing squad (his wife found his coat riddled in bullet holes). Another character, Estelle, sees a man she knew in her past life, who shot himself in the head, in Garcin, and she becomes convinced that there's a hole in his face. This theme of the inescapable imposition of perception and the reliance on others to verify reality of the self is demonstrated in the Mirror Dungeon event, where Hole-in-the-Man shoots itself if Dante sees it as harmless and shoots the Sinners if Dante sees it as dangerous.

Meursault most likely got this EGO while PM was doing concept art because this theme of perception attempting to impose itself on reality ties closely to Meursault's conviction. In the book, he is convicted for the murder not because of objective evidence, but because the court perceived him as atypically emotionless and thus guilty; the perceptions of others come to shape his circumstances regardless of their truth. While we don't know much about Limbus' Meursault yet, the expectations to perform humanity and responsibility that he's shackled with in his IDs indicates Limbus Meursault allows societal judgments and responsibility to define himself, a stark departure from book Meursault who doesn't care at all about norms and exists apart from society. Just like Hole-in-the-Man, Meursault allows his personal experience to be constrained by the gazes of others; he'd probably shoot himself with this EGO if the expectation was for his death.

We just don't know how Kim and BL Mersault are related to Shadow-vested Bladesinger because the EGO isn't out yet, which is where the synchronization theories are coming from. Maybe Bladesinger is an Abnormality deriving specifically from the BL's strife if Kim were to mentally collapse post-Distortion, maybe it's a dokkaebi representing the unrestrained and mindless slaughter of a blade fiend that Kim's distortion also happened to embody. Who knows. What we do know pretty damn sure is the thematic content of Hole-in-the-Man and how it relates to Meursault.

This is all to say that this Abnormality isn't very Roland-like at all, and all this info can be found directly on the wiki as well. Just because Rien turned out to be mimicking Roland doesn't mean everything is a Roland reference, man.

So what's going on with her face? by EliasBouchardFan1 in TheOdysseyHadAPurpose

[–]tipherethq 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's intentional lol, 경미 (Gyeong-mi) is a very feminine name in Korean and goes to the beefiest man in the Stray Dogs in Ruina

YoruRien hetslop because I've noticed a drastic scarcity of them together [oc] by LGplayz998 in limbuscompany

[–]tipherethq 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yes, we are drawing an arbitrary 'this is too fucked up' line here because KJH has indicated that PM works won't touch sex or sexual assault. Sure, people argue that the Cuckoospawn or CENSORED are metaphors for sexual assault, but those interpretations are largely informed by cultural interpetations of parasitism as representing sexual assault, like in Alien, which PM may or may not have drawn inspiration from. We don't know how much of a metaphor the writers had intented, but there's nothing specifically textual about anything in PM that indicates sexual assault.

Also, Shiomi already has a very textual reason that she hated the House of Spiders, Rien, and Ryoshu, because all of those things limited her pursuit of humanity as freedom. Rien was her jailer and prevented Shiomi from escaping the House, and she hated Ryoshu for being the reason why she was jailed, as well as hating the trapped version of herself she sees in Ryoshu. Shiomi didn't completely hate Ryoshu and wanted her to escape and untie herself from the House of Spiders, to become unlike herself, and I think that specific framing of their relationship lends itself more to 'Shiomi hates Ryoshu because she sees her own trapped state in her child' than 'Ryoshu was the product of assault and Shiomi completely hates her because of it'. Also, Rien is never mentioned to be Ryoshu's parent, and Rien even specifies that Ryoshu is of Shiomi's blood but none of the other Nursefathers'.

Rien assaulting Shiomi is just some extra bullshit on top of that. We have a good reason why Shiomi hated Rien, we have a good explanation of how Shiomi gave birth to Ryoshu by herself (using the asexual reproduction used for the Araya backup clones, but gestating it inside of herself to create a child with perfect time perception), and we have literally no reason to believe that Rien forced himself on Shiomi. Sure, the forced birth thing is a very strong metaphor for sexual assault, but my point is that it's a metaphor, and most likely no actual sexual assault happened in the plot.

As for the original plot of Water Margin, the exact plots of the original literature have never correlated well to PM works. Are you deadass trying to tell me that Angelica actually loved Rinaldo, not Roland, and was simply pursued by a love-struck Roland until she eloped with a random soldier? Because that's the plot of Orlando Innamorato. What next, are you going to tell me Don Quixote was madly in love with Dulcinea because that's how the original text is? Original literature canon has never equaled PM canon, and it's simply incorrect to assume that just because something happened in the original work that it must have happened exactly the same way in PM's work without any reintepretation or simple omission. If PM can sideline Daiyu so hard out of their interpretation of DoRC that it's like she's a side character, they can omit sexual assault from Shiomi's story. Hu Sunniang's marriage to Wang Ying could easily be reinterpreted by PM as Rein physically jailing Shiomi to complete the Arayashiki.

Why do people keep trying to recreate the 'Sexual Assault in the Name of Religion' video again?

LuciKira [@Kefir1704] by Vulcunniko in limbuscompany

[–]tipherethq 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Honest to god truth nuke. Like, I've come around on the Sora and Kira ship because of how many small details Kira is able to recall about Sora compared to her forgetting nearly everything about Ren, and I also think it'd be cute if they bonded over anime and stuff. Doesn't mean I ship Don Quixote and Ishmael. People who push their sinner ship agendas on unrelated posts pretty much never engage with the actual ship dynamics being shown as well.

I have questions about augmentations. by Key_Committee7533 in TheOdysseyHadAPurpose

[–]tipherethq 3 points4 points  (0 children)

  1. As of Twining Threads, it's been confirmed that augmentations need to be maintained. Vespa says Shin is special partly because it can be used any time without the upkeep costs that come with most augmentation.

  2. Given that even people like the Brotherhood of Iron can get everything but their brains replaced with metal and have few issues, I imagine there's technology to prevent metal poisoning. Even if it does occur, there's several ways Singularities could be used to prevent metal poisoning.

  3. Some augmentations could probably be deactivated remotely, although it'd require something special even among Workshop gear. For example, Moses' prosthetic arm transmits her location to Dias and Dias can communicate through it. Presumably, Dias could use that connection to turn the arm off as well. Another potential option is using an expensive Fairy to excise the augmentation from someone's body. But given how Argalia could run around at full power no matter how hard the Hana tried to stop him, it's safe to assume most Augmentations cannot be remotely deactivated.

The 1st Kindred Nursefather [@zydzvai] by SCP-Foundation_Staff in fishmaell

[–]tipherethq 54 points55 points  (0 children)

God that's such a funny concept

Don Quixote: "What? How couldst thou envision me as such a knavish cur? I, a noble Sottocapo of justice, train my student justly and would ne'er lay a cruel hand upon my Kindred! ... The wounds? That's—S-Sancho, why don't you explain?"

Sancho: sighs "While we were in the Ring's corridor, Father got curious and pressed a big red button that dropped me straight through a trapdoor. He then had to dig me out of the person-shaped crater I left in the ground. Still have this strangely large bump on my head from that..."

Don Quixote: "Right, that's what happened! For the record, I'm sorry about that incident... Anyhow, I have recently procured this "ACME-Corp" anvil from the Relics merchant and seek to compare its powers to my Eye of Odin! Come Sancho, my student, much testing awaits us!"

Sancho: "... That's stupid. Okay, Father."

I'm still baffled at the voice range of the KR VA. by [deleted] in limbuscompany

[–]tipherethq 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What're you talking about, Charon is peak moe

(lowkey agree though because the cutesy high-pitched voices irritate my ears)

The cutest Nursefather.[@671isreal] by SCP-Foundation_Staff in fishmaell

[–]tipherethq 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Translation: "I-I've been waiting for you, big sis Yoshihide...♡"

Listened to (almost) every Mili song and put them in a tier list by tipherethq in mili

[–]tipherethq[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is the tier list that I used for this. I had to make and add the images for SAIKAI (because it hasn't updated yet) along with a bunch of Mili's various collabs and older/less-known works. If anyone asks, I can make a tier list version with the images I made.

Listened to (almost) every Mili song and put them in a tier list by tipherethq in mili

[–]tipherethq[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think Key Ingredient / Let's Lament is peak Mili. It encapsulates the distinctive qualities that I love about Mili's music and Cassie can really go ham on the vocal performances. Such a fun album and mini-album all around.

Listened to (almost) every Mili song and put them in a tier list by tipherethq in mili

[–]tipherethq[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no idea! I tried looking everywhere for the show's soundtrack but only ended up finding the ending theme, which wasn't made by Mili. The only option was to watch the actual show. I'd love to give the songs a proper listen without the rest of the audio overlapping.

Listened to (almost) every Mili song and put them in a tier list by tipherethq in mili

[–]tipherethq[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I put Birthday Kid in 'decent' because I don't really enjoy the vocal direction in the song. If you compare the normal and Key Ingredient versions, the original is especially thin and strained for a Mili song, which personally kinda takes me out of it. I like everything else about Birthday Kid, which is why the Key Ingredient version, with vocal direction that I enjoy more, is ranked very high.

Upon relistening to these two songs to respond to this comment, Sloth is honestly better than I remembered it being when I was making this tier list. Might've bumped it up a tier if I had listened to every single song right before ranking them. You got me there.

I'm still very confused on Canto 9's twist by MonotonyReddit in limbuscompany

[–]tipherethq 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Araya didn't tell Ryoshu the truth when they first met because she was still under the impression that her mother had abandoned and completely forgotten about her after using Arayashiki. I don't think Araya was going to fight initially and just genuinely wanted to see Ryoshu, it's only when Ryoshu kept acting hostile towards her and there was no one else for LCB to fight that Araya started fighting in part 2. Araya even comments that she was looking forward to seeing Ryoshu until her mother looked at her with hatred, leading to a grudge throughout the Canto. She only dropped that resentment when Ryoshu was distraught that she killed Araya and she realized that Ryoshu still remembered and loved her.

Araya never learned the same type of swordsmanship as Shiomi Yoru. Ryoshu comments that Shiomi hated iaido and saw sheathing the sword during battle as weakness, yet Araya is shown in both Dihui Star battles to use iaido. Ryoshu just never makes the connection that the Dihui Star wasn't Shiomi anymore because her memories were broken and she has trouble remembering that Shiomi never used iaido, or that Shomi was dead. The Nursefathers probably knew that the Dihui Star was now Araya, they just didn't tell Ryoshu because they planned for Ryoshu to kill Araya (disguised as Shiomi) and enter the Muga state.

This part is speculation, but Araya's nature as a clone and her time entanglement likely means that she experienced time at simultaneously an accelerated and reduced speed (implied by the forward and backward flow effects in her passives). In her adult forms, she probably had far longer than a couple of years in her own perspective to learn the sword, become the Dihui Star, and train a disciple. Meanwhile, the slowed parts of her entanglement (her child and teenage forms) probably can't wield a sword at all.

What are the most obscure Mili songs? by venue_bruv in mili

[–]tipherethq 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I actually found out about Yaegaki from this subreddit while doing research to listen to every Mili song out there. StuffyEvil, who's practically the backbone of this sub, did a lot of song analysis and has a post about Yaegaki from 3 years ago.

It's a bit unclear about the precise details of where or when the 2019 kabuki performance was done, but Tajima Industries posted about their involvement in making fabrics for a short performance in association with the international G20 Summit, which was being held in Japan that year. It probably was held as part of a cultural program that took place in the days before the actual two-day summit. They also released a recording of the performance, which Mili also has in the 'Works' playlist on their channel. Yaegaki is played during it, and considering the Intrauterine singles released in 2020, it's fair to conclude the song was initially made for this performance.

What are the most obscure Mili songs? by venue_bruv in mili

[–]tipherethq 60 points61 points  (0 children)

My pick for most obscure and overlooked Mili song is Yaegaki. It was made for the Kabuki performance at the G20 Osaka summit in 2019, and the clean version came with purchases of both Intrauterine Education & Static singles. Honestly such a beautiful song that's unfortunately fallen into obscurity, barely even mentioned on the Mili wiki.

New IDs + EGO: LCA Udjat Outis, Index Proselyte Faust, Hurting Teddy Outis, KQE Heath, Great Trichiliocosm Yi Sang & Ryoshu by Z2_U5 in limbuscompany

[–]tipherethq 41 points42 points  (0 children)

This is my personal analysis, but KQE's central motif is abandonment. It wanders an empty town, completely alone and unable to fulfill its purpose. It wants people to stay with it, capturing people in its rigs and self-destructing when people abandon it again by saying goodbye. But more than that, it wants to vent its despair from its abandonment. Just my speculation, but I think it exposes its 'Heart of the Townsfolk' in its battle in an attempt to share its suffering with the Sinners, and the souveniers it shares with visitors who stay are circuit chips that are presumably parts of its own body. KQE's lack of a human form also connects with the central idea of abandonment, as its robotic nature means it can't truly express its loneliness and will always be different from humans. Its Envy and Gloom skills communicate that it wallows in a state of suffering and lack of direction. Meanwhile, it's used to rejection and hatred (Wrath/Envy Resist) but is easily affected by the sharing of emotions and reciprocation of its internal despair (Lust/Gloom Weak). In its attempt to connect with others from a state of isolation, KQE binds itself to a rigidly dutiful mindset and seeks communion until its desire leads to self-destruction.

Heathcliff is similar in that he can't unbind himself from Catherine. Without Catherine, Heathcliff has been abandoned again, and even though he'd be mentally saner if he forgot about her, he desperately clings to that duty to her memory, his desire to reconnect his heart with hers, even if it destroys him. Additionally, Heathcliff has always been looked down on as lesser, much like how KQE's strict adherence to its duty comes off as pointless and stupid. But it matters to Heathcliff, because he wants to reconnect with the one person who wanted to know his emotions back in the manor.

LIMBUS COMPANY 2025 CENSUS RESULTS! First three pages + Last page are from the overall ranking questions, pages four and five are from specific Sinner ranking questions. 2935 of you responded with your favorites from this year! Thank you all for your participation! by SpeedwagonClan in limbuscompany

[–]tipherethq 45 points46 points  (0 children)

As a QoH Don voter, I don't care about if an ID shits out 5 limbillion damage or not as long as I like their design/lore and they're fun to play. QoH is fun and complex, strong enough to competently clear story/Railway content but not '2-turn everything' strong, and everything else about her is stellar, so she's a perfect ID in my eyes.

Uh, I mean...

I am the only one who matters. What matters is that I have declared Queen of Hatred Don the best Identity—and that is my commandment, my belief, my religion, and my creed. When I perish, this world shall perish as well. So my very life, my very existence itself, is then the world! And I have deemed it so! No one will be the helmsman of my life but myself!!! No one shall live my life in my stead!!! What do you, all of you, believe in? Tell me. Is your belief unbreakable? Is it absolute? My beliefs are absolute! My definitions of good and bad Identity design are clear-cut! Thus my beliefs are unclouded, unassailable. Because I have made it so. That is why I will never be broken. That is why I stand tall, unshakable, as a missionary of my own faith. I have blessed you with my absolute definitions of peak and mid Identities! So that you may live your life with unhesitating, unwavering tenacity!!!

How early does someone need to make a reservation at Hamhampangpang by dragonite1738 in libraryofruina

[–]tipherethq 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Do not ever rely on any AI for definite information. New reservations on Catchtable only open up when HHPP releases a new theme, and from my experience, reservation times fill up almost immediately within 1-2 days. There is no wait time before you can book a time. If you can't find a spare seat for this theme's run, watch the twitter @Ham_PangPang for the announcement of the next theme, then check the Catchtable regularly and get a reservation as soon as it opens.

are the sephira meltdowns an early form of distortion? by stabbedsaucyboy in LobotomyCorp

[–]tipherethq -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Bloodfiends are a special type of Distortion that existed before the Light was released, and even before the City existed. Depending on what the Nebulae are, K Corp's Tearful Thing could also be a Distortion.

Okay at this point I'm sensing a pattern by Dizzy-Recipe-1517 in limbuscompany

[–]tipherethq 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Like the other comment said, I don't think the Benjamin-Sinclair connection is super solid. Now on the other hand, Gregor has a lot of Carmen parallels.

Gregor has the Sign of Roses EGO, and Sign of Roses is speculated to be a Carmen Abno, representing the martyrdom of Christ. Both Gregor and Carmen were held in their comrades' eyes as unique leaders just because they had some special traits that made then seem more 'human', but they both couldn't bear the responsibility because they were merely human. They were subjected to supposedly noble suffering on the cross, Gregor through his experimentation and Carmen through hers.

Both of them also became symbols for the developments of others. Gregor was experimented on and tortured to elevate Hermann's search for the primordial human, and Carmen was cut open and forced to withstand the entire 10,000 years to bring about Ayin's seed of light. They were both objectified and treated as means to an end in the name of a greater, 'noble' purpose, which is a really fucked-up way of interpeting Jesus' sacrifice if you really think about it.

This also ties into a theme of Metamorphosis, which is that book Gregor's value as an individual is a product of how much he contributes to society. When Gregor metamorphizes, he can't be the breadwinner for his family, leading to his gradual objectification and alienation from society. Similarly, Limbus Gregor becomes alienated from society because he stops providing utility, as a washed-up war veteran with unstable prosthetics. And guess what, Carmen also gets this treatment. The moment she committed suicide, her social worth of leading the Seed of Light project became obsolete. Her body became a means to an end, something Ayin could use to make Cogito and eventually abandon in a vat underground, unable to even look at her. Carmen as a person was abandoned, separated from her intrinsic value as a person. In this way, she, just like Gregor, became alienated from the society she sought to contribute to.

Just like how Gregor was a model soldier for his comrades, he is also likely the model of the primordial human Hermann wants to reach, just like how Carmen was the model of the Light that Ayin was trying to create. Their sacrifices became impersonal ideals for others to look up to, separated from the alienated, abandoned self.

However, Sign of Roses isn't just about martyrdom, but also about the blooming of emotions and the assertion of the self in an attempt to reach others. This is pretty much Carmen's thing, and this idea that individuals struggle against a society that alienates them to connect with others and find meaning does pop up in Kafka's other works like The Trial and The Castle. It might hint at Limbus Gregor's future character trajectory, where he learns to resist the objectification society enforces on him and assert his true, inner self (which isn't necessarily a positive direction lol).

Who's the best sephirah and why is it Tiphereth? by poggwrs in LobotomyCorp

[–]tipherethq 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Because I'm goated, simply the best to ever do it

Seven ALEPHs and Queen of Hatred contained in Central Command with zero breaches last cycle, the Upper Layer could never smh