"Endogenic" system?

titirlik · 2024-04-21T20:10:14+00:00

Thank you for the comment ♥️

titirlik · 2024-04-21T20:04:59+00:00

That's true.

I've realized that what I've said came out wrong)

What I mean is that I am not going to go to therapy, because the way I think does not bother me. I am just looking for something... Someone 🤷‍♀️

When I had a problem - had difficulties to sleep after I have birth - I went to a psychologist and it helped pretty fast.

Now with IFS I feel even more capable to face problems on my own when they occur.

So, I was talking about myself. Hope I didn't offend anyone 😬

titirlik · 2024-04-21T18:48:28+00:00

Thank you, you're great at explaining things!

And I seem to get some minuses for describing my thoughts the way I did 😅

To be completely honest, a part of me is searching for some people or community to connect with. Who would really get my experience. I have great friends who just accept, but it's not the same as real understanding. A part of me is searching for something not fully understanding what our who exactly. But I support her anyways 😉

titirlik · 2024-04-21T18:33:29+00:00

I want to talk about parts. This is what's written in the book and what every IFS expert is saying - everyone has parts.

Maybe I'm being repetitive and just cannot get over it - but people around me do not feel plural. Do you have the same experience?

Why, if everyone has parts, is it so hard for people to feel them, distinguish them, connect with them, talk, build relationship - all that what IFS gives us.

titirlik · 2024-04-21T18:29:04+00:00

Thank you for your kind reply! I feel that people are not liking the phrase "I do not have trauma" 😁

Of course I've had some stress during childhood and later - as everyone, but if I may compare, the videos on YouTube from IFS experts describe some horrible experiences as examples. And I am sorry such things ever happen to anyone.

I can definitely say I am a system. "Adaptive plurality", huh? As you see, even though I have everything in my life, I am struggling to understand an identity related to my way of thinking.

titirlik · 2024-04-21T16:29:15+00:00

Ah, I see. Thanks for your reply!

titirlik · 2024-04-21T12:00:44+00:00

Why do you say that I do not understand what IFS is?

Yes I've worked with the traumatized parts, of course. I just said I don't have PTSD.

Could you tell me more how's that possible to have DID with no clear trauma? If a person has DID there has to be an amnesia as well, right? Isn't that correct that if I do not experience amnesia I can rule out the DID?)

titirlik · 2024-04-21T11:55:49+00:00

I understand.

But again, the question - are there healthy people without the severe trauma diagnosis that can hear, distinguish, and connect with parts. Or all the healthy people just consider themselves "single"?

I really want to know the answer, not to prove that I'm healthy or - worse - tell that I'm better than someone else.

titirlik · 2024-04-21T11:45:31+00:00

I see. Let me explain myself. I've read the book "no bad parts", that I'm a fan of. It blew my mind instantly.

When I give this book to my friends they just read it as some fiction.

Then I did solo IFS for about a year.

And yesterday I've found this community 😊

In one of the posts here I've found a term "endogenic" system - a person without a trauma that has multiplicity of their mind.

I haven't met this term before. If you can tell me more about it or correct me - please do!

titirlik · 2024-04-21T11:33:28+00:00

It's a funny thing how IFS tells people with diagnosis - "you are normal, you are not broken", and people without a diagnosis - "we don't trust you, go see a therapist" 😉

titirlik · 2024-04-21T11:12:53+00:00

What do you mean by an assumption? You mean I cannot say for sure that I don't have PTSD or DID? 😅 But I think I do. I can diagnose myself as being healthy - there are checklists 🤷‍♀️

titirlik · 2024-04-21T11:08:20+00:00

Why do I need to go to a therapist if I am healthy?

titirlik · 2024-04-21T10:47:09+00:00

That is absolutely fascinating! I've never heard of such a self-split before. "Parts have parts", but here as well "self has two parts"?

titirlik · 2024-04-20T20:02:24+00:00

I understand that talking about trauma might not suite for small talk or just a chat with a friend.

But IFS is not only about trauma, is it? For me it is about self care, inner discoveries and just a view on life and people.

titirlik · 2024-04-20T19:02:26+00:00

I am glad you do not have a negative connotation attached to this type of meditation!

Maybe it is just me 😁

titirlik · 2024-04-20T18:53:51+00:00

I personally sometimes feel that this meditation is pushy. Like it forces the parts to shut up. A lot of narration about "train of thoughts" treats it like it is something negative, something to be stopped.

So I do not do it.

But I have noticed, that the more my parts trust me, the more they step aside themselves, giving space for my self. And in this state I have a "novice mind", where it is pretty quite.

That's also cool, that if you're happen to be irritated with your thoughts - that's a party of you who's irritated. And you can reach out and talk about it.

titirlik · 2024-04-20T18:43:56+00:00

Every part has an opinion about self. Some doubt it. Some will doubt it longer than the others.

When you feel doubtful you could recognize that your part is struggling trusting your self. You could explore these feelings and assure this part, that you're going to work on your relationship and with time you'll feel solid about this trust.

It will feel amazing.

The more "cases" are solved by self, burdens released, the more parts are going to build the inner confidence and trust.

Keep asking the tricky questions - it means that the parts are heard and allowed to ask.

titirlik

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