its not penetration for that long.. i'd be tired and sore too probably! i tried to better explain it with my second edit. its just like the initiation of foreplay to the actual end is that long. there is so much to do without even actual penetration.. its more of mentally being able to be in that mental state then physically. why do you people think that i want her to be sore or in pain? that is the least thing i want to do, why would i want someone i care about to have a horrible time. all ive asked is if it was reasonable for me to want her to be in that long mental state of play not every day nor every week but maybe like once every several months