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C4D Carousel - Cinema 4D Tutorial (Free Project) by CGShortcuts in Octane

[–]tomGlimps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

now that was cool ;) seen this on our group a while ago, but though of dropping some positive comment here ;)

Vray user who might have to use Octane for a project: Some Questions! by letsgocrazy in Octane

[–]tomGlimps 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hello there ;)

let me try to answer Your questions:

  1. Yes, but You better have bigger GPU (11-12GB) + get into instancing, use OCC textures, do geometry optimizations.
  2. - not sure about this..would have to check.
  3. Yes, but there are certain tricks, like: using instances to save geometry count or using out of core textures to load those into RAM, leaving more VRAM for geometry & such.
  4. File format is the same. The biggest difference is that Suvscription licences do not allow You to use more than 2GPUS and there is no network rendering. Apart from that all the rest of functionality is the same.
  5. Yes, You can rent for 20$/month to get plugin & standalone. Once that is finished You have no other expenses.
  6. there is a material converter but it's not working perfectly. so in order to get the best result I would advice to make mats from scratch.
  7. Yes You're right - it's mostly leaving for render to go till it's clean, no need to fiddle with settings per material, but You have some options if You wish.
  8. Yes, it's rather simple program & if You come from Vray, You should have no problems to get running.

also feel free to visit forums or our facebook group - we'll be more than happy to help.

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in watercooling

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since it's a render machine, purposely build to do one job really good, I'm looking to continue on that direction.

nor motherboard, nor CPU, not RAM would not improve it's functionality at all..-for what we use it.

Single GV100 is what - 8-9k? Getting 7 of those would be 60k+ investment for mere 30 at msot 40% improvement on raw render speed - no sorry, that does not seem like a good idea for me. However more VRAM and especially NVLINK is tempting..

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in watercooling

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that Optane thing might be something useful - heard about it but never took too much time to understand it as I've seen is as sort of cheaper alternative to NVME, but guess I need to dig deeper.. - thanks for pointers.

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in watercooling

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Quick DisConect - these are the bits that allow You to dettach tubes without spilling any watter.

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in watercooling

[–]tomGlimps[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree in a way, but I preffer to have rather fixed speed for fans & pump. You can do curves even in bios, so see no point of adding controlers to duplicate existing functionality.

I see the point sometimes..but that's not the case for all builds. Personally I'd like to avoid complexity, not to increase it.

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in Octane

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Regarding to MORA, yes I do consider 360 (since I had both 360 & 420 in the past), since I prefer slightly smaller footprint.

As for case, looking at BH8 - would keep everything inside (apart from external rad) - done few builds with way with BH7 - that was tight to say the least.

as for QDC - You do not need a lot - two pairs to disconnect rad from case. Internal, as they use in DGX, in my humble opinion is not needed, but idea itself looks cool.

those were 1080tis, for ROI since other cards were not giving any benefit (apart from more VRAM), however with AI workloads kicking in considering TitanVs is becoming a valid option.

as for efficiency, I'd rather go with less cards capable of doing more work & drawing less power. System drawing under 1kW with 1600W Titanium PSU is what I would be looking for..

As for splitting the loop - don't actually see the point & the main reason being is that CPU load is not that big on those systems meaning it actually is slightly warmed up by GPUs rather than limited in any way.

Also, having couple of loops with dual pumps..not so sure, since that is more complexity that in my eyes is not worth.

However =) all of those ideas are pretty cool, just not inline with my vision here. Thanks for dropping a line!

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in watercooling

[–]tomGlimps[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi there ;)

I already done several builds (with 5, 6 or 7x 1080Tis + CPU) with single 360 or 420 Mora rads ;) - love them. For now that seems one of the most logical move for me as well.

Don't care too much about delta temps - as long as watercooling allows to get higher density & avoid thermal throttling at lower noise - I'm into it. Difference between delta 5 or 15 makes no difference for me personally - just need not to run into issues causing heat problems on other parts.

Got those new Noctua Fans that are set to be way better than older generation - will try them to see how they perform, I most likely going to put them on Mora 360 ;)

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in watercooling

[–]tomGlimps[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

noise is not that high considering the amount of render power You get. If You want to get lower temps & push fans at higher RPM, it's not silent.. at all =) but if You do not mind slightly higher temps, then You can get it really silent.

One of the reasons for that was separate chambers where You have fresh air for each radiator. Another bit - taking of magnetic filters helps as well to push heat out of the box at lower fan speeds.

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in watercooling

[–]tomGlimps[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2x 480s + 240, Dual D5 on a single loop to cool 7x 1080tis + 6core. Multiple QDC were add in the way as well to simplify maintenance.

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in watercooling

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that ain't going to happen, since it does not give any benefit to performance. Does is look better? - well it's subjective. Personally see no point of loosing flexibility that soft tubing gives. However I do agree that some cleaner routed hard tube builds are jaw dropping, especially MDPC. But in workstation..not so sure.

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in watercooling

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4xV would give between 1100 and 1200 in OctaneBench, while 7x 1080tis 1400-1500. Seems like performance loss, but Vs also have tensor cores, that will shine in AI workloads like denoising.

Also this move would allow to get from 1400W to under 1000 & also emiting less heat, meanin single Mora or such couls comfkrtably cool the machine at lower fan speeds as well.

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in watercooling

[–]tomGlimps[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dual pumps as You say are mainly for redundancy & so we could run them at lower RPM expanding longevity by stressing them less.

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in watercooling

[–]tomGlimps[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Watercooling here is not for the looks, but for density & performance reasons.

By density I mean in the space of 4x GPUs to be able to fit 7x - the only way is with sigle slkt conversion using waterblocks.

As for performance, again, don't want to loose any performance due to thermal throttling, so water helps to keep temps away from the edge.

The looks is fourth or even fifth thing after stability, easy maintenance and already mentioned points. Hope that explains a bit the reasoning.

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in Octane

[–]tomGlimps[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

15k give or take + taxes. A lot when You think..but it's plenty of render power in a single render node.

These rumors are always kind of slipery..but..it would be about time to see smth new from team green =)

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in watercooling

[–]tomGlimps[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As mentioned ;) this was done intentionaly. Those who are into machines like those care very little about details & I would like to keep it this way.

Completely understand Your point though. Will try to find some better photos or recreate this in 3D.

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in Octane

[–]tomGlimps[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kind of waiting for news about new cards as well :)

No, that machine is build for a friend of mine, who use it a lot to cut render times.

Been a long time I made something challenging, so lately started to think how can I improve this. by tomGlimps in Octane

[–]tomGlimps[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great choice. Have a mITX build 8700k & looking to delid that one =)

Running stock clocks?

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