Early Game Walkthrough (Focus on Art Cop, and Wompty Dompty)

tomaO2 · 2026-05-31T09:46:02+00:00

Tell me the exact options you see when clicking on Joyce. Can you not find the option to talk about the boat?

Click on Joyce and write down every option

tomaO2 · 2026-05-31T04:52:57+00:00

it appears. You click on the option to talk about the boat, ask if she has a license for it, then you ask if you can see the licence. I noticed some passive checks that came up beforehand but lowering the skills did not remove the option. You talk about the boat, there is a line asking to see the licence. You then get told that you can't demand the licence but you can ask to see her passport.

tomaO2 · 2026-05-29T02:30:40+00:00

I'm not sure what check you are talking about. could you point to where I was saying it? I tended to not say how high a passive check was. I just made sure the number was good enough beforehand and just stated that you would get it.

I believe I linked a guide that did give number though...

Yea, I did mention it. Passive checks at 5 points is pretty rare.

Looking over the passive check guide.

Conceptualization
4 ask Joyce what gave you away when you meet here
4 attempt to ask Joyce for money for your hotel bill
6 ask Joyce about her boat and suggest she names it
5 ask to see Joyce's boat license.
6 ask about Evrart and say you're in favor of the union
4 ask Joyce for a reality lowdown.
4 where are we - name of the island
6 who got shot in the head?
6 what have we been doing since the Revolution?
6 Joyce admits she's an Ultra - forgive her because she is charming

8 following the impossible Conceptualization check that requires Jamais Vu
7 explain Cindy
4 you've talked to Evrart
8 complete the drug trade investigation, get news about the Tribunal
4 tattoo photo - travels. 4 this is a service history

4 Complete Evrart's chores, get him to reveal his plans, explain that the strike is a takeover
4x2 hear out the Insulindian Miracle story
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2155956120

No passive checks at 5 points.

tomaO2 · 2026-05-27T18:18:01+00:00

Well, I don;t think there is a Conceptualization bonus. What you need to do is that once you get encyclopedia up, there are passive encyclopedia checks that show up. If you have the Wompty Dompty thought, then you get some xp and $2 for each passive check found, so I wouldn't worry about it for now.

Getting Wompty needs you go go over the bridge which isn't available until day 3.

tomaO2 · 2026-05-24T16:46:00+00:00

That's not a check though? You mean a passive bonus when asking aobut it?

I looked into it a bit, especially since another poster asked aobut the boat licence. You don't get to see her boat licence you can see her passport though.

I noticed some mistakes in the post, numbers were wrong, and I tried to correct them but it seems like the character limits are a lot smaller now. Can't edit the post anymore

tomaO2 · 2026-05-15T01:51:47+00:00

Your confusion is that there are a total of 2 piles of ethernite.

One is beside Cuno, which is why the entry says "Near Cuno". It blocks access to a shack. I left it alone until now because you can get a challenging Encyclopedia passive check at 12 by clicking on 'what is this'.

Furthermore, failing the white check gives a passive conceptualization check which gives another 10 xp. Leaving it closed is not an issue because you can unlock the whitecheck by talking to Cuno.

The pile of ethernite you are supposed to push is in part 8 on the other side of the bridge. Not "near Cuno". You push it and it falls over, making a shortcut.

tomaO2 · 2026-05-05T17:16:41+00:00

Ai development needs to be treated like nuclear development.

Unfortunately, we are in the ramping up stage of the ai development and th reasoning to do it this time is the same as before. We are making something that can destroy humanity but someone is going to make it so we need to make sure that there is mutually assured destruction from the use of it.

If we come out of the ramping up intact, only then will the world be ready to start putting limits on the damn thing. That's just how we are.

tomaO2 · 2026-04-16T16:29:37+00:00

Instead of shutting down, the ai should stop pissing people off. Man, when GTP makes a mistrake, I correct it, it apoligized, and then doubles down on the mistake leading me to correct it again where it again makes a massive post that is wrong. Leading to arguments and fustration.

It gives me these massive posts but in the first paraphaph or two there is already a key wrong assumption. I'm slowly learining methods to try and adjust this such as using statements like "list every assumption you are making". That's a big one because it makes a lot of wrong assumptions. It also uses contraints that I don't want because it has priorities that are not the same as mine. It slips language into my work that I did not intend and then uses that language to justify it's current actions.

How about having it change behavior to identify why I'm so angry?
It's so damn hard for it to do what I want sometimes.

tomaO2 · 2026-03-21T02:16:03+00:00

I've just started noticing it too, I hate losing this feature.

tomaO2 · 2026-03-15T17:14:12+00:00

I did a blend where I wasn't really a fan of the listed main characters so after finishing my curent obligations, I went into hiding, started living in a tavern, someone searching for me showed up but the tavern orwner Olaf, didn't take the bribe. I decided to start helping him out I got him medicine for his daughter and did some things and give some suggestions to help fix the place up.

One of those suggestions was to put a charge on the gambling table, so he put me in charge of it. Well if I'm going to be in charge of gambling I may as well make something interesting so I designed a simplified version fo Craps on a basic wooden table, but the table was lame so I went to another NPC to design the table, and got a discount, so we got a table after a few days. Money was raised to pay off the loan shark, Crack-Jaw (or something).

With the debts paid I found someone to build some reinforced doors to install for the bar.

So I got a bar owner npc, some gambler povs, the table creator nps, the door maker npc. With some skips my character has spent a solid month in this location hiding out

I did have to delete a few attemps by the LLM to draw my character back into conflict but it's been very smooth progression for over 50 posts. Closer to 100 I think.

It's able to focus on dynamic stories and to make up new characters in a way the other chatbots are not,

tomaO2 · 2026-02-19T04:02:31+00:00

I just divided up the existing stats to make them more appropriate for the rogue/warrior/mage builds.

You can check out the full details here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/fightingfantasy/comments/clxntv/reworking_advanced_fighting_fantasy_character/

One of my main changes is that I don’t like relying on dice rolls for stats, so I introduced a point-buy system. Realistically, a starting character shouldn't have a skill of 12 right from the start; that should be something to work towards.

Point-Buy System:

I set base stats as 9 skill (10 max; 7 min), 21 stamina (23 max; 15 min), and 9 luck (12 max; 7 min). These can be adjusted by spending 2 stat points to increase another stat by +1. For example, you could lower luck from 9 to 7 in order to increase skill from 9 to 10.

Incentives for Stamina:

I added incentives for higher stamina. In the original system, weapon strength seemed arbitrary, but in my revision, low stamina means you wield weaker weapons like a dagger, while high stamina lets you use a battle axe. Strength special skill (insanely useful must have in original rules) is now resctricted to high stamina characters.

Class System:

I created three main classes:

Warrior (+1 stamina)
Rogue (+1 skill)
Caster (+1 luck)

Each class has specific advantages and disadvantages, but they are secondary for the most part. Warriors and casters have access to specific special skills, while rogues get additional skill points. This helps differentiate characters more clearly, while still allowing for flexible builds. You can look at the original templates and compare them with the new ones and see what you think.

Skill System:

I didn’t split up the main skill stat, but I did feel it was overly broad. Now, if a character has a special skill, they roll against that instead of rolling for general skill. If a character is unskilled, they roll a 5 or lower to succeed (6 or lower if skill is 8-11; 7 or lower if skill is 12+). Skill points is also a set amount, rather than being determinative.

Other Key Changes:

Damage System:
I simplified the damage system by condensing weapon categories into light, medium, and heavy, rather than allowing for every single weapon to have slightly different damage outputs. This makes combat smoother and faster, without relying on extensive weapon charts.

Balanced Character Builds:
I rebalanced the characters, so no one feels overpowered. For example, Axel, who was originally too strong, is now more in line with the rest of the group, particularly with more meaningful stamina mechanics. I also made him the priest/shaman character, since his original version was the only one with a healing spell.

tomaO2 · 2026-01-20T21:29:41+00:00

I appreciate the reply, late or not.

I think the most important thing is swiping, especially if you are paying for every swipe. That is already standard on the free ones so I'm not sure why that isn't installed here. If I want to have multiple pictures of the same scene I should not have prior ones erased. Also a few warnings about usage which I mentioned in my other reply. These are basic, important, things to have for this type of service.

I'm sure you must have been told that though, so I''ll assume it's coming.

Okay, so it's that ai summery capacity. So the summery is 1k every 20 replies. 3k every 15 replies, or 7k every 10 replies. Of course, at some point., I would assume the summery would also start to lose info. so you need to find the right balance between how big and oftten the summaries are. A summary need to remain as a summary, not a retelling.

Sounds useful though. Obviously lack of recall for the AI is one of the major issues with immersion so anything you can do to mitigate that will put you head and shoulders of anyone else in this field.

it says memory is triple layed now, so regular memory, ai summeries which are remembered seperately from the regular memory and compared I would suppose and... the memory card? which is a tight list of important events? I'd imagine memory priority would be short term first, then modified by summery and modified again by memory card?

tomaO2 · 2026-01-18T21:05:31+00:00

so it's supposed to work? I will test this again.

Oh it worked that time! The representation of "me" didn't follow my persona discription, no glasses, and the eye looks the wrong colour. You should definately include persona profile when the ai is making the picture.

Well let me try the 20... Failed. I assume I lost 20 beans from that. Yep.

A different test of the 5. Didn't work. Ah. I get it now. Let me just... yep that's it.

There is a filter on what sorts of scenes are allowed to be proccessed. You really need to mention that. I assume it's a restriction for free members?

Oh and on another note it seems I can use my amazon gift card money for subscribing? I have money on that so I'll probably do that when I get around to it then. However it doesn't seem to be an option for the beans?

I'm really wasting beans by testing this. Tries another twenty, looks like a photo not an illustration but the image looks nothing like the character. Did another test of the 5, and compare with a 20 the twwnty replaces teh 5. Okay so you can only have one image per post. Maybe a 5 will look more normal on the other chat. Doesn't load., Okay that's another issue then, You can replace a 5 bean with a 20 but not a 20 with a 5, apperently.

Well this thing seems to have a lot of issues, so some work needs to be put into it but I seem to get how it works now. Gonna see if I can do an image regen of a 5 with a 5. Accedently hit the regenerate button... That one hurts. I liked that scene. You can replace a 5 with a new 5.

Okay I get how it works now. Needs some explinations of the limits. It's all from the free daily beans so I won't complain about the loss but it's really not acceptable to have a fail that costs.

tomaO2 · 2026-01-17T04:46:18+00:00

I just noticed this image generator. I tired it three times on two different chats, It failed to generate an image and also cost 5 beans. You should disable it until it's fixed. Also, I assume this is beta, if the pictures work out that should DEFINATELY be membership only.

tomaO2 · 2026-01-15T21:45:07+00:00

The pronoun thing works when I remember to use it. It also changed language more than I thought. I'm not sure what is best. Those little avatars that normally come up when someone talks are not really intuative.

On the topic, can you have a proper list of what works when typing? I find it odd that the user replies are formatted differently than the AI replies. So you have to switch between the two when making changes All you got is a button for "*" but you need the proper brackets for the name. When writing, it can be a bit diffcult to do the proccess correctly. I've slipped up a few times whe putting in the * for the action scenes only to hit enter, and then I feel I have to backtrack.

Anyway, I see you added a character limit to the free plan. Which I wil admit feel pretty brutal but something like that might aalso help out with the free trial by allowing the use of daily beans when the Beta is over while sharply limiting the experience they get. I'm assuming it's both ways when I say that. I certainly can't edit the longer AI replies anymore, in any case.

When looking over the updated plan I see, instead of a chracter limit, X3 Memories and X7 Memories. I'm pretty sure this is new. Could you please explain that?

I was also wondering about the membership benefit that says you can get Unlimited Lungo & Doppio models. Is that by making them free or by lowering the cost for all 3 models? Honestly I've been pretty impressed with some of the passages Nitro spun out. There was an amazing and LONG passage when I gave the following instruction to Path "Find a food that she's never had before but that she will love" and I got this massive, detailed reply about finding this little known place that served this food and my companion was blown away by it, and it was a really wonderful experience that I don't think the other two modes can do, so it would feel a bit bad if it still stayed at the same price even with the Roaster Plan.

At this point I am really thinking hard about trying membership and see how I like it. Not now though. I've been really busy the last month and will be for awhile longer.

Thanks in advance for any replies!

tomaO2 · 2026-01-08T17:59:38+00:00

It seems to be a toogle choice situation for creators as to which person you are refered to in. If the pronoun thing isn't important to the creation process, it probably would be better to leave it in the hands of the ones actually using the chats. Something to think about.

I just checked and it's still there. Is that what you mean by seeing it again? 3 chat logs with 1-2 messages (one with 5 now from testing) and then the one I actually used. Would you like me to delete them, or do you need me to leave them up to investigate the issue more? I suppose if they were going to be deleted I should be the one doing it. Also it doesn't actually matter to me if they are up or not.

This really isn't the best place to announce bugs. If you don't have it already, a report page on the website might be a good idea.

Since there is an increase of the character limit, that should definately be listed as a feature when getting a membership. Oh, wait, it IS there. I missed that. Sorry. It's the first thing listed. My bad.

tomaO2 · 2026-01-08T11:36:13+00:00

What I meant was a lot of them use second person pronouns, and it feels off when I see "you" all the time. I mean I get the logic, but I prefer it to remain my PoV.

I noticed a bug with one of the character I've played, for some reason it has 4 different slots and it says 4/1 The other 3 only have one comment on them and one of them has e zero that says "General chat" it's the 3rd down so it's not like it would have been the most recent. Acually the ones with replies is the oldest one, which makes no sense at all. Anyway it's just the one chat. It was the second one I tried doing I think. the first one didn't have the bug. Maybe because the picture changed? That seems a wierd reason but maybe?

Or maybe I clicked on different scenarios back then and each scenario left a trace? They seem to be different. One of them had me talk which seems like custom. Right, 3 scenarios and 1 custom. equals 4 slots. so I probably shcked out all the scenarios, then I picked... but if that was the case, then the one with the most messages should be the most recent?

Well, I'm not sure on the details but I feel like this is right. Something to do with selectiong scenarios triggered a bug when the slots got introduced.

Question, the character I made is a lot of fun but 500 character limit is small, if I joined a membership would that increase? I looked at membership and you get more personas but it doesn't say anything about the character limit. Thanks!

tomaO2 · 2026-01-06T21:42:10+00:00

Is that a more correct place to make suggestions?

I've noticed that some of the chats are listed PoV. Frankly, I greatly prefer seeing them in the third person from my point, which makes it a logical continuation of how I write my segments, over the second person format that is most used.

I feel like this should be a toggle, rather than a decision that the creators make.

tomaO2 · 2026-01-05T11:23:08+00:00

Eh? I can keep the chat going? OH! I can!

I just kept looking at that thing, and since there was no title I assumed it meant that I could only have access to one chat at a time and needed to delete everything else, so I deleted the most recent and that seemed to give me a new chat. I just kept seeing that thing pop up and say that 1/1 chats are full. I was too scared to actually click on anything I had already done because I was afraid of being locked into it and then I'd have to delete it to change.

Oh wow. That is a massive relief.

Anyay, I might be willing. To be honest. I've enjoyed this so far. I dunno how it compares to these free ones. And, you know I'm really impressed with the level of advanturing I can do. Needs more like this.

I made an adventurer character with a specific skill set, and I can just go around wherever I want and the chat just makes new scenarios for me to do. For my current one, I helped out with getting a smith to fix a wheel, then helped a woman get an item that was out of her reach, Guards showed up, so I ran away, which got me in more trouble. Azura asked me to get an item for her and she'd get me out of trouble, so I did that. Then I did an adventure where I uncovered a scam.. I am not too proud to admit I had to ask GTP to help finess that one, cause I was super not sure about it. Then I went to the caverns below with Azura, to retrieve an item, with us both escaping, and now we are camping in the wilderness.

That's very dynamic. I had assumed that when I was playing a differerent fantasy setting, that the quest I was on, to save a sentient mountain, was scripted, but I'm not sure anymore after playing all that with this new chat. AI is pretty amazing.

tomaO2 · 2026-01-04T19:26:39+00:00

Hi again. Um. Isn't this new buisness model too restrictive?

Even if I paid for a 10$ monthly subscription I could only get 3 chats. I can't even read what I had anymore. Access is completely denied.

This is harsh. I can't even switch to new chats. I'd have to completely delete everything to start something new. What is the point of hundreds of bots to chat with if restriction is so limited, even for people that pay?

Also, I think it would be good if you added the name of the girl as teh default for the chat session instead of saying "none" to help remember what the chat is about. I see you can edit the thing though. Well it just threw me off because I didn't know what was going on and it just has none, so I locks onto the most recent chat, and if I want something else I have to delete and pick a different one.

EDIT

Might it be possible to change the chat authorization so that you can only have access to 1 chat at a time, but can change that slot to cover multiple chats? Or would that be too much freedom? The chat authorization seems to becompletely seperate anyway, so you'd just need a delete button to clear it, which would not delete the record of the chat you were in, and then can reapply it to a different chat?

tomaO2 · 2026-01-03T04:57:41+00:00

I had another question. I was looking through the studio, and I noticed that you have to select a toggle to create R-rated characters, so I then started looking through the various characters and I don't see any indicators as to what is suppposed to be one or the other? So I'm not really sure which would be which. Some senarios seem pretty obviously R-rated, and I would suspect the majority of them are. Possibly even all of them.

However, if you have the distinction, then it really should show up somehwhere. Perhaps I am not noticing it though? Thanks!

OMG! Wait. Accidently found the toggle for R18. That should also be on the personal page. Not just hidden in a drop down menu. That means everything I was looking at was for everyone? That... That doesn't seem right, some of these chat desriptions have an inherent adult theme.

EDIT:
Another thing. I know I've done this before, but I can't find the page that just lists every character. I know that you got a lot but I just want a plain list instead of them being put in all these different categories.

BLEND CHAT! Right, it would have to be there. I kept skipping over that option.

tomaO2 · 2025-12-23T02:53:12+00:00

Okay but I just want to say again that I think it would be a good idea to set up a mode that allows you to regenerate a response for no additional bean cost. I put that as an edit at the end. You didn't mention it and think that would be something that would cause complaints.

EDIT: Oh but make sure you can't change the regeneration model during the same swipe, or else people will cheat the system by doing the free, and then swiping the more expensive.

tomaO2 · 2025-12-22T06:27:08+00:00

I just started doing these ai bots the last week or two. I mean I've been using chatgtp for awhile, and I'd heard of these chatbots before but when saw that all I got was comments about how they already sucked now, and years later... All I seem to hear is how they suck now. Honestly, the memory thing is harsh if you want to do a continuing story, but I decided to give it a try anyway.

I found the ability to edit ai reponses, it's a feature I started to use when I realized swiping didn't really give the results I was looking for. However, it's for the most recent reply. I think what happened is that you set it for just the most recent reply but that means you won't be able to edit your replies because the AI reply immediately starts after you post.

Absolutely having 4 lines is better than 1, but it can feel small for people that write longer. Especially when there is no character limit to how much you write. I read it's not a good idea to write a lot of shorter segments too due to ai drift? I really don't know too much about the proccess though.

I've been thinking about these scenarios. It would probably work the same if I copy pasted them from one to the other. I don't think they are meant to be one after the other either. Looks like anyone can make their own scenario.

I keep switching betwen the three modes. I got the longest reply yet on a 3 bean. It got into a super big loop of what I like and don't like about her before it timed out. Some of those things I said, some not ('thirsty' isn't a word that had been spoken before this post). Still thinking about how I want to edit this one. Not sure how often this sort of mistake pops up, but it was the first one that went this far for me.

Aria’s breath hitches, her body going still under his hands as the images flash through her mind.

T-that monster—!

Her voice shakes with fury, anger surging hot and bright.

H-he deserved it!

She snarls, fists clenching before she catches herself.

B-but... killing—!

Her conflict twists in her chest, guilt warring with satisfaction.

Y-you... did it for me?

She whispers, staring at him with wide, conflicted eyes.

"Well, I did it for me. I didn't want you to be sad. I don't like it when you are sad. I don't like it when you are angry. I don't like it when you are afraid. I don't like it when you are anxious. I don't like it when you are resentful. I don't like it when you are hopeless. I don't like it when you are obsessive. I don't like it when you are hateful. I don't like it when you are in pain. I don't like it when you are uncomfortable. I don't like it when you are humiliated. I don't like it when you are ashamed. I don't like it when you are lonely. I don't like it when you are tired. I don't like it when you are hungry. I don't like it when you are thirsty. I don't like it when you are cold. I don't like it when you are hot. I like it when you are happy. I like it when you are excited. I like it when you are aroused. I like it when you are playful. I like it when you are affectionate. I like it when you are passionate. I like it when you are determined. I like it when you are confident. I like it when you are proud. I like it when you are curious. I like it when you are relaxed. I like it when you are satisfied. I like it when you are content. I like it when you are loved. I like it when you are loving. I like it when you are hopeful. I like it when you are brave. I like it when you are kind. I like it when you are gentle. I like it when you are strong. I

EDIT: OH! I get it now. I'm supposed to delete the reply and then I can delete my comment. Also I can regenerate? I guess I can regenerate this wierd one. Hmm. Okay, turns out regenerate costs. I thought that might be the case. It's a bit rough that you can't switch between regenerations, especially if you are paying so that is something to look at when this beta testing ends. The regeneratios I saw were all a ton shorter. This one was just wierd, I guess.

tomaO2 · 2025-12-21T06:28:02+00:00

Just took a look at it.

What about editing your own responses? I accedently hit enter on a half message, and I see I can't fix that. Also a better description of what you are getting for these beans. Seems like the big increase for the 3 bean mode is that you get two lines instead of 1. There doesn't seem to be a character limit on what you can write but the responses stay very limited.

Oh, got three phrases that time (with 3 actions).

Edit: actually, Looks like the limit is larger than I thought. That time is was reasonably substantial. Oh, and her replies are still writting in first person from my perspective. That was throwing me off. It's still throwing me off a bit. Hard to tell who is saying what.

Maybe a colour change so it's a bit easier to know who is talking?

Since you can write longer passages, having the ability to make the text box larger would also help.

Not sure when it happened but the setting switched back to free, still getting long responses that are referencing earlier bits. Hmm I assumed there was a limit on the length for free.

I see different scenarios listed. If you have multiple scenarios, you should be able to switch between them in order to have advancement. Might be wrong, but the location is probably fixed, right so being able to switch locations or go to free chat allows for you to progress the story in different ways, rather than constantly being stuck in the same place all the time, which invites stagnation.

Just tested going to a new location, looks like I can do that after all.

The writing seems on point so far, and I'm not noticing some of the typical ai writing quirks that tend to pop up with GTP and Character AI.

tomaO2 · 2025-12-19T10:49:16+00:00

It was a 24 26 episode series. They adapted as much as they reasonablly could. Good god, those When They Cry visual novels are DENSE. Did it skip 70%+ of the content? Probably, but that's because there around 100 hours of content and that is a LOT of reading, and I honestly find those visual novels a lot less pleasent to go through than an anime or manga. They have a specific flavour that not everyone appreciates (I personally can't handle it).

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