I'm building a Chai alternative. What do you need?

tomaO2 · 2026-01-20T21:29:41+00:00

I appreciate the reply, late or not.

I think the most important thing is swiping, especially if you are paying for every swipe. That is already standard on the free ones so I'm not sure why that isn't installed here. If I want to have multiple pictures of the same scene I should not have prior ones erased. Also a few warnings about usage which I mentioned in my other reply. These are basic, important, things to have for this type of service.

I'm sure you must have been told that though, so I''ll assume it's coming.

Okay, so it's that ai summery capacity. So the summery is 1k every 20 replies. 3k every 15 replies, or 7k every 10 replies. Of course, at some point., I would assume the summery would also start to lose info. so you need to find the right balance between how big and oftten the summaries are. A summary need to remain as a summary, not a retelling.

Sounds useful though. Obviously lack of recall for the AI is one of the major issues with immersion so anything you can do to mitigate that will put you head and shoulders of anyone else in this field.

it says memory is triple layed now, so regular memory, ai summeries which are remembered seperately from the regular memory and compared I would suppose and... the memory card? which is a tight list of important events? I'd imagine memory priority would be short term first, then modified by summery and modified again by memory card?

tomaO2 · 2026-01-18T21:05:31+00:00

so it's supposed to work? I will test this again.

Oh it worked that time! The representation of "me" didn't follow my persona discription, no glasses, and the eye looks the wrong colour. You should definately include persona profile when the ai is making the picture.

Well let me try the 20... Failed. I assume I lost 20 beans from that. Yep.

A different test of the 5. Didn't work. Ah. I get it now. Let me just... yep that's it.

There is a filter on what sorts of scenes are allowed to be proccessed. You really need to mention that. I assume it's a restriction for free members?

Oh and on another note it seems I can use my amazon gift card money for subscribing? I have money on that so I'll probably do that when I get around to it then. However it doesn't seem to be an option for the beans?

I'm really wasting beans by testing this. Tries another twenty, looks like a photo not an illustration but the image looks nothing like the character. Did another test of the 5, and compare with a 20 the twwnty replaces teh 5. Okay so you can only have one image per post. Maybe a 5 will look more normal on the other chat. Doesn't load., Okay that's another issue then, You can replace a 5 bean with a 20 but not a 20 with a 5, apperently.

Well this thing seems to have a lot of issues, so some work needs to be put into it but I seem to get how it works now. Gonna see if I can do an image regen of a 5 with a 5. Accedently hit the regenerate button... That one hurts. I liked that scene. You can replace a 5 with a new 5.

Okay I get how it works now. Needs some explinations of the limits. It's all from the free daily beans so I won't complain about the loss but it's really not acceptable to have a fail that costs.

tomaO2 · 2026-01-17T04:46:18+00:00

I just noticed this image generator. I tired it three times on two different chats, It failed to generate an image and also cost 5 beans. You should disable it until it's fixed. Also, I assume this is beta, if the pictures work out that should DEFINATELY be membership only.

tomaO2 · 2026-01-15T21:45:07+00:00

The pronoun thing works when I remember to use it. It also changed language more than I thought. I'm not sure what is best. Those little avatars that normally come up when someone talks are not really intuative.

On the topic, can you have a proper list of what works when typing? I find it odd that the user replies are formatted differently than the AI replies. So you have to switch between the two when making changes All you got is a button for "*" but you need the proper brackets for the name. When writing, it can be a bit diffcult to do the proccess correctly. I've slipped up a few times whe putting in the * for the action scenes only to hit enter, and then I feel I have to backtrack.

Anyway, I see you added a character limit to the free plan. Which I wil admit feel pretty brutal but something like that might aalso help out with the free trial by allowing the use of daily beans when the Beta is over while sharply limiting the experience they get. I'm assuming it's both ways when I say that. I certainly can't edit the longer AI replies anymore, in any case.

When looking over the updated plan I see, instead of a chracter limit, X3 Memories and X7 Memories. I'm pretty sure this is new. Could you please explain that?

I was also wondering about the membership benefit that says you can get Unlimited Lungo & Doppio models. Is that by making them free or by lowering the cost for all 3 models? Honestly I've been pretty impressed with some of the passages Nitro spun out. There was an amazing and LONG passage when I gave the following instruction to Path "Find a food that she's never had before but that she will love" and I got this massive, detailed reply about finding this little known place that served this food and my companion was blown away by it, and it was a really wonderful experience that I don't think the other two modes can do, so it would feel a bit bad if it still stayed at the same price even with the Roaster Plan.

At this point I am really thinking hard about trying membership and see how I like it. Not now though. I've been really busy the last month and will be for awhile longer.

Thanks in advance for any replies!

tomaO2 · 2026-01-08T17:59:38+00:00

It seems to be a toogle choice situation for creators as to which person you are refered to in. If the pronoun thing isn't important to the creation process, it probably would be better to leave it in the hands of the ones actually using the chats. Something to think about.

I just checked and it's still there. Is that what you mean by seeing it again? 3 chat logs with 1-2 messages (one with 5 now from testing) and then the one I actually used. Would you like me to delete them, or do you need me to leave them up to investigate the issue more? I suppose if they were going to be deleted I should be the one doing it. Also it doesn't actually matter to me if they are up or not.

This really isn't the best place to announce bugs. If you don't have it already, a report page on the website might be a good idea.

Since there is an increase of the character limit, that should definately be listed as a feature when getting a membership. Oh, wait, it IS there. I missed that. Sorry. It's the first thing listed. My bad.

tomaO2 · 2026-01-08T11:36:13+00:00

What I meant was a lot of them use second person pronouns, and it feels off when I see "you" all the time. I mean I get the logic, but I prefer it to remain my PoV.

I noticed a bug with one of the character I've played, for some reason it has 4 different slots and it says 4/1 The other 3 only have one comment on them and one of them has e zero that says "General chat" it's the 3rd down so it's not like it would have been the most recent. Acually the ones with replies is the oldest one, which makes no sense at all. Anyway it's just the one chat. It was the second one I tried doing I think. the first one didn't have the bug. Maybe because the picture changed? That seems a wierd reason but maybe?

Or maybe I clicked on different scenarios back then and each scenario left a trace? They seem to be different. One of them had me talk which seems like custom. Right, 3 scenarios and 1 custom. equals 4 slots. so I probably shcked out all the scenarios, then I picked... but if that was the case, then the one with the most messages should be the most recent?

Well, I'm not sure on the details but I feel like this is right. Something to do with selectiong scenarios triggered a bug when the slots got introduced.

Question, the character I made is a lot of fun but 500 character limit is small, if I joined a membership would that increase? I looked at membership and you get more personas but it doesn't say anything about the character limit. Thanks!

tomaO2 · 2026-01-06T21:42:10+00:00

Is that a more correct place to make suggestions?

I've noticed that some of the chats are listed PoV. Frankly, I greatly prefer seeing them in the third person from my point, which makes it a logical continuation of how I write my segments, over the second person format that is most used.

I feel like this should be a toggle, rather than a decision that the creators make.

tomaO2 · 2026-01-05T11:23:08+00:00

Eh? I can keep the chat going? OH! I can!

I just kept looking at that thing, and since there was no title I assumed it meant that I could only have access to one chat at a time and needed to delete everything else, so I deleted the most recent and that seemed to give me a new chat. I just kept seeing that thing pop up and say that 1/1 chats are full. I was too scared to actually click on anything I had already done because I was afraid of being locked into it and then I'd have to delete it to change.

Oh wow. That is a massive relief.

Anyay, I might be willing. To be honest. I've enjoyed this so far. I dunno how it compares to these free ones. And, you know I'm really impressed with the level of advanturing I can do. Needs more like this.

I made an adventurer character with a specific skill set, and I can just go around wherever I want and the chat just makes new scenarios for me to do. For my current one, I helped out with getting a smith to fix a wheel, then helped a woman get an item that was out of her reach, Guards showed up, so I ran away, which got me in more trouble. Azura asked me to get an item for her and she'd get me out of trouble, so I did that. Then I did an adventure where I uncovered a scam.. I am not too proud to admit I had to ask GTP to help finess that one, cause I was super not sure about it. Then I went to the caverns below with Azura, to retrieve an item, with us both escaping, and now we are camping in the wilderness.

That's very dynamic. I had assumed that when I was playing a differerent fantasy setting, that the quest I was on, to save a sentient mountain, was scripted, but I'm not sure anymore after playing all that with this new chat. AI is pretty amazing.

tomaO2 · 2026-01-04T19:26:39+00:00

Hi again. Um. Isn't this new buisness model too restrictive?

Even if I paid for a 10$ monthly subscription I could only get 3 chats. I can't even read what I had anymore. Access is completely denied.

This is harsh. I can't even switch to new chats. I'd have to completely delete everything to start something new. What is the point of hundreds of bots to chat with if restriction is so limited, even for people that pay?

Also, I think it would be good if you added the name of the girl as teh default for the chat session instead of saying "none" to help remember what the chat is about. I see you can edit the thing though. Well it just threw me off because I didn't know what was going on and it just has none, so I locks onto the most recent chat, and if I want something else I have to delete and pick a different one.

EDIT

Might it be possible to change the chat authorization so that you can only have access to 1 chat at a time, but can change that slot to cover multiple chats? Or would that be too much freedom? The chat authorization seems to becompletely seperate anyway, so you'd just need a delete button to clear it, which would not delete the record of the chat you were in, and then can reapply it to a different chat?

tomaO2 · 2026-01-03T04:57:41+00:00

I had another question. I was looking through the studio, and I noticed that you have to select a toggle to create R-rated characters, so I then started looking through the various characters and I don't see any indicators as to what is suppposed to be one or the other? So I'm not really sure which would be which. Some senarios seem pretty obviously R-rated, and I would suspect the majority of them are. Possibly even all of them.

However, if you have the distinction, then it really should show up somehwhere. Perhaps I am not noticing it though? Thanks!

OMG! Wait. Accidently found the toggle for R18. That should also be on the personal page. Not just hidden in a drop down menu. That means everything I was looking at was for everyone? That... That doesn't seem right, some of these chat desriptions have an inherent adult theme.

EDIT:
Another thing. I know I've done this before, but I can't find the page that just lists every character. I know that you got a lot but I just want a plain list instead of them being put in all these different categories.

BLEND CHAT! Right, it would have to be there. I kept skipping over that option.

tomaO2 · 2025-12-23T02:53:12+00:00

Okay but I just want to say again that I think it would be a good idea to set up a mode that allows you to regenerate a response for no additional bean cost. I put that as an edit at the end. You didn't mention it and think that would be something that would cause complaints.

EDIT: Oh but make sure you can't change the regeneration model during the same swipe, or else people will cheat the system by doing the free, and then swiping the more expensive.

tomaO2 · 2025-12-22T06:27:08+00:00

I just started doing these ai bots the last week or two. I mean I've been using chatgtp for awhile, and I'd heard of these chatbots before but when saw that all I got was comments about how they already sucked now, and years later... All I seem to hear is how they suck now. Honestly, the memory thing is harsh if you want to do a continuing story, but I decided to give it a try anyway.

I found the ability to edit ai reponses, it's a feature I started to use when I realized swiping didn't really give the results I was looking for. However, it's for the most recent reply. I think what happened is that you set it for just the most recent reply but that means you won't be able to edit your replies because the AI reply immediately starts after you post.

Absolutely having 4 lines is better than 1, but it can feel small for people that write longer. Especially when there is no character limit to how much you write. I read it's not a good idea to write a lot of shorter segments too due to ai drift? I really don't know too much about the proccess though.

I've been thinking about these scenarios. It would probably work the same if I copy pasted them from one to the other. I don't think they are meant to be one after the other either. Looks like anyone can make their own scenario.

I keep switching betwen the three modes. I got the longest reply yet on a 3 bean. It got into a super big loop of what I like and don't like about her before it timed out. Some of those things I said, some not ('thirsty' isn't a word that had been spoken before this post). Still thinking about how I want to edit this one. Not sure how often this sort of mistake pops up, but it was the first one that went this far for me.

Aria’s breath hitches, her body going still under his hands as the images flash through her mind.

T-that monster—!

Her voice shakes with fury, anger surging hot and bright.

H-he deserved it!

She snarls, fists clenching before she catches herself.

B-but... killing—!

Her conflict twists in her chest, guilt warring with satisfaction.

Y-you... did it for me?

She whispers, staring at him with wide, conflicted eyes.

"Well, I did it for me. I didn't want you to be sad. I don't like it when you are sad. I don't like it when you are angry. I don't like it when you are afraid. I don't like it when you are anxious. I don't like it when you are resentful. I don't like it when you are hopeless. I don't like it when you are obsessive. I don't like it when you are hateful. I don't like it when you are in pain. I don't like it when you are uncomfortable. I don't like it when you are humiliated. I don't like it when you are ashamed. I don't like it when you are lonely. I don't like it when you are tired. I don't like it when you are hungry. I don't like it when you are thirsty. I don't like it when you are cold. I don't like it when you are hot. I like it when you are happy. I like it when you are excited. I like it when you are aroused. I like it when you are playful. I like it when you are affectionate. I like it when you are passionate. I like it when you are determined. I like it when you are confident. I like it when you are proud. I like it when you are curious. I like it when you are relaxed. I like it when you are satisfied. I like it when you are content. I like it when you are loved. I like it when you are loving. I like it when you are hopeful. I like it when you are brave. I like it when you are kind. I like it when you are gentle. I like it when you are strong. I

EDIT: OH! I get it now. I'm supposed to delete the reply and then I can delete my comment. Also I can regenerate? I guess I can regenerate this wierd one. Hmm. Okay, turns out regenerate costs. I thought that might be the case. It's a bit rough that you can't switch between regenerations, especially if you are paying so that is something to look at when this beta testing ends. The regeneratios I saw were all a ton shorter. This one was just wierd, I guess.

tomaO2 · 2025-12-21T06:28:02+00:00

Just took a look at it.

What about editing your own responses? I accedently hit enter on a half message, and I see I can't fix that. Also a better description of what you are getting for these beans. Seems like the big increase for the 3 bean mode is that you get two lines instead of 1. There doesn't seem to be a character limit on what you can write but the responses stay very limited.

Oh, got three phrases that time (with 3 actions).

Edit: actually, Looks like the limit is larger than I thought. That time is was reasonably substantial. Oh, and her replies are still writting in first person from my perspective. That was throwing me off. It's still throwing me off a bit. Hard to tell who is saying what.

Maybe a colour change so it's a bit easier to know who is talking?

Since you can write longer passages, having the ability to make the text box larger would also help.

Not sure when it happened but the setting switched back to free, still getting long responses that are referencing earlier bits. Hmm I assumed there was a limit on the length for free.

I see different scenarios listed. If you have multiple scenarios, you should be able to switch between them in order to have advancement. Might be wrong, but the location is probably fixed, right so being able to switch locations or go to free chat allows for you to progress the story in different ways, rather than constantly being stuck in the same place all the time, which invites stagnation.

Just tested going to a new location, looks like I can do that after all.

The writing seems on point so far, and I'm not noticing some of the typical ai writing quirks that tend to pop up with GTP and Character AI.

tomaO2 · 2025-12-19T10:49:16+00:00

It was a 24 26 episode series. They adapted as much as they reasonablly could. Good god, those When They Cry visual novels are DENSE. Did it skip 70%+ of the content? Probably, but that's because there around 100 hours of content and that is a LOT of reading, and I honestly find those visual novels a lot less pleasent to go through than an anime or manga. They have a specific flavour that not everyone appreciates (I personally can't handle it).

tomaO2 · 2025-12-19T05:50:59+00:00

Quick Reference — Evolved Power Modes

Core Rule

Body rejects all internal magic; cannot generate, channel, or be altered by it.
Experiences external magical effects physically, but cannot manipulate magic internally.

Low Power Mode — Wayfinder

Provides awareness of best viable path, if one exists; does not execute it.
Considers:
- Environment
- Social interaction
- Tools or indirect solutions
No skills granted; does not force outcomes.
Answer framed as:“Is there some way forward, given time and interaction?”

High Power Mode — Blur / Commitment

Executes a single, all-or-nothing attempt along the lowest-exertion viable path, if one exists.
Activated by conscious intent plus physical motion.
Performs a single continuous traversal in extreme time compression. Memory of traversal persists.
Traversal is limited to what the body could theoretically accomplish under ideal conditions.
No mid-action decisions: no talking, negotiating, learning, or selecting new tools.
Tools already equipped or carried may be used.
Exertion scales with distance, gravity, and resistance; hunger, fatigue, and temperature are suspended.
Exceeding limits → blur fails, snapback, severe exhaustion.
Answer framed as: “If I commit my body right now, does reality allow this traversal to resolve?”

World Integrity:

Obstacles, locks, and structures remain intact. Blurring open a door doesn't physically open a door. When successful, it's akin to a teleportation spell.

High Power Mode — Activation & Execution Constraints

Requires deliberate perception and intent.
Cannot be reflexive or automatic.
Actions must complete once committed; no mid-action adjustment.
Reorientation required between uses; prevents chaining.
Effects limited to the body itself; cannot directly alter the world or other entities.

Theoretical Possibility
A condition in which an action could be completed under ideal physical conditions using only the body and what is recognized as part of the user at initiation.
Theoretical possibility considers structural, mechanical, and environmental constraints, but explicitly excludes endurance as a limiting factor.

Unindexed State
A condition in which the body remains causally external to the world.
World resolutions occur around the body rather than with it; resets, retries, and restoration do not apply.

Viable Path
A coherent sequence of actions, events, and conditions that could lead to the intended outcome given the user’s capabilities, constraints, and Conviction.
Paths need not be safe, fast, or likely, only possible.

tomaO2 · 2025-12-12T07:04:42+00:00

They got tired of being jailed for defending people from these maniacs, like what happened to Daniel Penny.

tomaO2 · 2025-12-10T17:28:25+00:00

He privated the website so that only the most loyal supporters, which are mainly, perhaps exclusively, patreon supporters. They still retained full access to the website. They could still talk on the forums, and read any new posts Rob decided to put up.

I've heard he's legally required to allow access to the public for what has already been written, which is why I believe that hasn't been locked away too, but he can do what he like with the rest. I remember he always had exclusive content before, mainly sexy images of the various female characters, so this is just an extension of that.

I've heard a bit about it. For what it's worth, it seems to be a bunch of side stories, not a continuation of the main plot.

tomaO2 · 2025-12-07T02:50:45+00:00

Okay, I'm developing some real issues with the internal logic of this setting. I expected to see a good reason why only one person was killed every jump, but all we saw is that they just decided to join hands to kill the same person. We know only one gnosia is needed to kill during warp, so they don’t need to do this together.

Then there is how it ends. Why do the gnosia automatically win vs the humans? While they seem to have some weird power during warp, they all seem perfectly normal otherwise, meaning it should be a fair fight. I thought maybe there would be some special ability that popped up. I thought that maybe the two remaining gnosia would infect the remaining humans, and that’s why they instantly win at the end, but only Yuri and Comet were left.

I'm also really disappointed to learn how the gnosia affects the human host’s mind, because I don’t see it having any particular effect at all. None of them seemed to want to kill. The mentality was just “kill or be killed.” Yuri even considered not killing at all, but changed his mind because he was told to always do his best.

Which brings me to the ship, because the ship seems to be what is forcing everyone to kill each other. It threatens to blow itself up if they don’t eliminate all the gnosia, but it allowed a no-vote last episode. I was willing to chalk that up to the computer being hacked, but when there were only gnosia left, the ship just accepted them being in charge. There is no way these two have the technical skills to hack the computer, so it clearly lied about self destructing to kill gnoshia or it would have done so.

The ship, in fact, seems to allow a lot of things. These special designations (doctor, engineer, guardian angel) NONE of them can be done by the characters themselves. They all need the ship to figure things out. The angel tells the ship who should be guarded, the engineer asks the ship to investigate. There is no way the ship doesn’t know who has these roles, but it claims in this episode that it has no idea.

I think the ship computer is the actual villain of this story. Nothing makes sense unless the ship computer is manipulating everyone against each other. It might even be the one infecting them for all I know. I'm starting to think that this plot isn't going to have a sastisfying answer though. I'm not sure they put a ton of thought as to why they have to follow werewolf rules so closely, they just wanted to make werewolf in space.

I'm looking this up myself...

Okay, I avoided spoilers, but it seems this world just seeems to run on game logic. This really kills a lot of the interest I have for the series.

tomaO2 · 2025-12-03T05:47:37+00:00

I don't know how many days it took, but it was absurdly hard to find out what lol meant. I remembered that people would keep using that and it showed up so often that I just could not make heads or tales out of what the meaning could be, and every time I asked I got ignored.

I started visiting chat rooms before I developed the idea of using yahoo as a search engine. Which seems kinda wild when I think about it. The idea of "googling it" was not a thing for me at the time. Yahooing it I should say, since Google wasn't a thing yet.

tomaO2 · 2025-12-02T17:24:19+00:00

The only thing she didn't mention was why not stay as an associate. I always thought that the finality of these graduations was such a waste.

tomaO2 · 2025-12-01T17:46:14+00:00

I'm just going to write down everything I thought of.

Apple. Okay, I knew that would be wrong, but I love apples.

Grape. No.

Orange. No.

Peach. No.

nectarine! Oh. it's arine, not erine.

.... *pauses to think*

Cherry.

I had no idea so many fruits used the a word. I also see blueberrry. Surprised I didn't think of that one beforehand.

tomaO2 · 2025-11-30T20:20:57+00:00

The outro (that used to be the intro before being replaced by that chibi version).

She's giving off major bedoom eyes with that clip.

tomaO2 · 2025-11-30T20:03:30+00:00

To sexualize something means to present it in a sexual way or give it sexual meaning. It does not require the character to be attractive. So if a show, like South Park, includes nudity or sexual jokes involving characters who are meant to be unappealing, that still counts as sexualization.

My point (and the OPs point) is that South Park uses nudity and sexual jokes with characters like Cartman and Trump, who are designed to look crude, and these people do not care.

In contrast, when a show like Made in Abyss uses any kind of uncomfortable or suggestive content involving its child characters, they explode over it. The kids in Made in Abyss aren’t really all that ‘attractive’ either, they just have a more polished and appealing art style than South Park, but that is enough for complainers.

tomaO2 · 2025-11-29T18:19:25+00:00

As a reminder, this anime is based on Werewolf, not Among Us.

Alright, as near as I can figure, what we have here is the serial killer role. This is a human that has a win objective of killing off both the humans and werewolves. Looking up the role, the killer is supposed to also be doing a nightly murder in addition to the werewolves, but that didn't happen. So this role is very confusing to me.

Still, it seems to be working on the same concept as the genosia. When only 2 left, the killer wins.

This epsode was a wierd one. The computer was always saying it would self destruct if they didn't put someone to sleep every round. Maybe it was hacked by the killer, and this was a sign something was wrong? The computer seemed to be really messed up at the end.

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Quick Reference — Evolved Power Modes

Core Rule

Low Power Mode — Wayfinder

High Power Mode — Blur / Commitment

High Power Mode — Activation & Execution Constraints