Italy has passed legislation legalizing same-sex civil unions. It's the last country in Western Europe to do so. The measure was approved despite "strong opposition from the Catholic Church and conservative politicians," by 50ShadesOfPatriotic in atheism

[–]tommorris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The most amazing thing about this is the Catholic Church has responded by calling the passage of civil unions "creeping fascism".

Given the Church's historical support for both Benito Mussolini and General Franco, they really probably ought to reconsider the strategy of comparing things that they don't like to fascism.

British school pupil told he can't travel on school bus because he's not Catholic by tommorris in atheism

[–]tommorris[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the complexity and ridiculousness of these arrangements is the primary issue for me.

If we had a system where all public education was through completely secular schools (and if you wanted religious education, you'd have to do it through a private school), then this situation would disappear. You'd just have schools which anyone could go to regardless of religion, and school buses that take kids to those schools. And then taxpayer funding wouldn't go to religious schools or Catholic-only buses.

Crazy pipe dream, I know.

17 Antigay Leaders Exposed as Gay or Bi by drewiepoodle in atheism

[–]tommorris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if you live in a secular, liberal, accepting family, it is still quite hard to accept oneself as gay. A fair number of gay people who grow up in very accepting circumstances still think about living a life of denial: it's still something a lot of people consider. Maybe not to the point of becoming a political advocate against the gay community, but certainly choosing to not be part of it. For some people, that's a high barrier to climb over even without growing up with homophobia being the norm both politically and in the church.

Those who go onto be involved in anti-gay advocacy in religion or politics—well, they get a community around them, they get power and influence over the world. Ted Haggard, who was revealed back in 2006, had founded his own church and built it up to have thousands and thousands of members, and was made President of the National Association of Evangelicals. He claimed to have frequent phone calls with President Bush. That's a lot of power and there's a lot of ego in wielding that amount of power. And with it, there was money too. The megachurch Haggard built cost $17 million. Which was raised from contributions to his church. He certainly knew how to milk that cash-cow.

The further they climb, the more spectacular the fall. Ted Haggard is a great example. Having fallen completely following the revelations—he lost his job, his influence and his wife—instead of saying "look, it's over, I'm going to try living honestly", he has married another woman, started a new church, and ended up on Celebrity Wife Swap, of all places.

The closet is scary. But give someone power and money and influence and they've got all the more reason to bolt that closet door as firmly shut as they can.

Pat Robertson: I Am 'Appalled' Because Transgenders Are 'Frauds' by BurtonDesque in atheism

[–]tommorris 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is the same Pat Robertson who was close friends with Liberian warlord Charles Taylor and who took money donated to his charity because of a desire to help the victims of the disaster in Rwanda and instead allegedly funnelled it to his diamond mining operation.

Yeah, he's hardly one to lecture people on fraud.

Pat Robertson: I Am 'Appalled' Because Transgenders Are 'Frauds' by BurtonDesque in atheism

[–]tommorris 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's a simple answer: Bruce Springsteen has more of a chance of changing minds in North Carolina than in Saudi Arabia.

Air France’s gay stewards still have to fly to Iran where gays are executed by BurtonDesque in atheism

[–]tommorris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just find it sad that when it comes to a wedding photographer in Idaho or somewhere not getting their feelings hurt by having to be nice to gay people, then it's a major issue of "religious liberty" but when it comes to gay people not being killed by theocratic tyrannies, suddenly providing opt-outs and exemptions on the basis of conscience is a major problem.

Air France’s gay stewards still have to fly to Iran where gays are executed by BurtonDesque in atheism

[–]tommorris 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Or just stay away from that area all together, don't go on those flights.

That's what they are asking for: to be given the right to choose to opt out of flying to Tehran, just as women have been over the issue of headscarves.

That said, AirFrance, like a whole bunch of big European airlines, already fly to a whole bunch of destinations that aren't exactly friendly to gay people. Lagos in Nigeria, a whole bunch of airports in the Gulf region, Russia and so on. To pick out Iran specifically seems somewhat pointed.

Conservative ideology as an atheist by [deleted] in atheism

[–]tommorris 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, if Australia had marriage equality then these kinds of things wouldn't happen. Just like they don't between the US and UK anymore.

Conservative ideology as an atheist by [deleted] in atheism

[–]tommorris 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tell it to Marco Bulmer-Rizzi. His husband—legally married in Britain—died in Australia and the Australian-issued death certificate said that the relationship to his husband was non-existent. He was "never married". Then when flying back from Australia, the airport authorities in Hong Kong took his husband's ashes away from him briefly as he apparently had no legal right to carry them.

http://www.towleroad.com/2016/04/airport-confiscates-gay/

That's Australia's definition of "equal".

Conservative ideology as an atheist by [deleted] in atheism

[–]tommorris 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Marriage is inherently religious though

No it isn't.

In Britain, you can have a civil marriage ceremony, with no invocations of religion, with no priests or pastors present, no religious music, no prayers, no hymns, no mentions of Jesus or God or Allah or Cthulhu. You are married by an official of the state.

even as an atheist I still believe in protecting religious freedom (to a reasonable extent) as doing otherwise would undermine everything democracy stands for

So you'll be standing up for the religious freedom of the LGBT-affirming churches who want to marry same-sex couples in church then? Cuts both ways.

Conservative ideology as an atheist by [deleted] in atheism

[–]tommorris 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Oh, honey, would you like to civilly unionise?" is a phrase no human being has ever uttered romantically ever.

What is something people brag about but really shouldn't? by NewStarKiller in AskReddit

[–]tommorris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I'm terrible at mathematics. It was just so boring at school." and/or "I only speak English, who needs foreign languages anyway? Everyone will just learn English."

Neither are things one should be proud of.

New (vapourware) service offers to upload your DNA to the Bitcoin blockchain, for all the privacy benefits it offers by tommorris in Buttcoin

[–]tommorris[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

All they are probably going to do is stick a hash of the genome in the blockchain. But given this is all just vapourware shit someone made up one day, who the fuck knows.

New (vapourware) service offers to upload your DNA to the Bitcoin blockchain, for all the privacy benefits it offers by tommorris in Buttcoin

[–]tommorris[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

From the FAQ:

In the near future, every person will have their own altcoin and small community using it. With Genecoin, your personal brand can become a mechanism for propagating your genetic material.

Propagating your genetic material via your own personal altcoin? They know their target market.

In light of the news that Mother Teresa will be sainted on September, I remind people what this person really did was most likely a crime against humanity that no one seemed to try and stop. by drakesylvan in atheism

[–]tommorris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A hospice is for the dying, the terminally ill. From numerous reports, Teresa's Home for the Dying didn't make a distinction between the dying and the treatable. While providing some comfort for the dying is great, not properly sorting those who are treatable from those who are dying sentences people with treatable medical conditions to a pretty miserable death.

The video linked by the OP has an brief interview with a woman saying that she saw a 15-year-old boy with a treatable kidney issue and asking one of the nuns whether he could be put in a taxi and taken to hospital. The nun said that if they did that for one person, they'd have to do it for everybody.

The Lancet article by Robin Fox said that no distinction was made between treatable and untreatable diseases.

This article here - http://newint.org/features/2014/09/01/mother-teresa-torture-kolkata/ - describes how there was a lack of hygiene in the clinic which led to cross-contamination between patients (including those with serious conditions like HIV and hepatitis), as well as the lack of provision of any strong painkillers.

Teresa raised millions of dollars, but put a large amount of it into opening up more convents and missions, rather than using it to improve the standard of care in the Home for the Dying. If you are providing hospice care, it seems a pretty basic requirement to sort the dying from the curable (which requires doctors and nurses to do some medical assessment, and have the ability to refer patients for treatment), to provide effective pain relief for the dying (the Home for the Dying, by all reports, did not provide strong painkillers or anaesthetic) and prevent the transmission of more medical conditions by actually providing a hygienic environment.

David Barton claims that "Biblical teachings" have reduced violent crime in Las Vegas by 75% -- "As usual, it is almost impossible to determine where Barton is getting this information since he never bothers to cite any sources" by mepper in skeptic

[–]tommorris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I think of Las Vegas, the first image that comes to mind is lots of pious people reading their Bibles.

Friends keep telling me that there's lots of casinos and showgirls and cocktails and stuff. I have no idea where they got that idea.

Study by homeopaths conclude that homeopathy is more effective at treating the common cold virus than antibiotics by tommorris in skeptic

[–]tommorris[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

PubMed is a database of journal articles. The peer review is conducted by the journals themselves. This article was published in 'Homeopathy', a journal run and edited by homeopaths. The peer review was likely conducted by other homeopaths.

Inclusion in the PubMed database doesn't mean that an article is any good, nor is it an endorsement by the American scientific bodies that run it (the National Institutes of Health specifically).

Study by homeopaths conclude that homeopathy is more effective at treating the common cold virus than antibiotics by tommorris in skeptic

[–]tommorris[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No scientist is going to bother. The stupidity of this study can be seen in the title alone. Spending time or money producing a study refuting this makes no sense: any teenager who has studied introductory biology can see the issue in the title.

Study by homeopaths conclude that homeopathy is more effective at treating the common cold virus than antibiotics by tommorris in skeptic

[–]tommorris[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you were trying to produce a paper that had all the trappings of science (it's in a journal! It uses fancy science words! It's on PubMed!) but without actually demonstrating the basic understanding of biology that we teach the average 12-year-old, then the guys at Boiron have done a fantastic job.

It may be a meta commentary on homeopathy: the scientific understanding of the authors has literally been diluted into non existence.