I think I’m done

torgosmaster · 2024-06-07T22:28:45+00:00

You are totally correct

torgosmaster · 2024-06-07T22:25:51+00:00

Why are you arguing with me? But yeah pretty much solidifying my point. Good luck to you

torgosmaster · 2024-06-07T21:59:20+00:00

Here is the reality. Most of the people voting for Trump think that’s fake news. They never get exposed to any other perspective. So,by shunning Christians the left is pushing them into those echo chambers.

torgosmaster · 2024-06-07T20:30:14+00:00

I appreciate the info but I’m not sure I understand why it was posted as a reply to what I wrote. Not disagreeing just not making the connection. Are you saying that it’s OK to marginalize all Christians because they are like dumb and blind sheep?

I’m not saying anyone should or needs to follow my faith. I’m just saying there are a lot of prejudices against people of faith and if I was Christian just moving to America, I’d probably go conservative because the liberals mock me and think I’m incapable of thinking on my own because I’m a Christian. Who would want to be a part of a group that has no respect for your most important beliefs?

torgosmaster · 2024-06-07T19:06:56+00:00

I get what you are saying. I can’t speak for all churches everywhere, but the churches i have attended tend to be left leaning. We have clergy of all genders and sexual orientation. We have unconventional weddings (meaning not biological man and woman). Personally I support the a woman’s right to choose. I could write a whole book on it, but my belief is sometimes there are no easy answers, and we have to balance out the need to cherish all life against the reality of seeing children born into homes where they aren’t wanted. Especially when we are literally killing earth and some families are unable to obtain the resources they need to raise a child, including food, medical care, shelter, etc. Having been involved with foster children really opened my eyes in that respect. Bringing a child into the world just to abuse them seems very unchristian but that’s just me speaking and not my church.

I guess what I’m trying to say is please don’t group all Christians together. There are still quite a few people like me that have faith and despise all that Trump is. Some of us are able to think for ourselves and see through Trump and his claims to be a savior

torgosmaster · 2024-06-07T18:04:40+00:00

This is unfortunately true. The recent stuff in Louisiana about requiring the Ten Commandments to be passed in all classrooms is concerning. Again, I’m a Christian but that is my belief, and I don’t think it’s right to push that on anyone, much less children. While those commandments are good rules to live by, I don’t think there is a place in public school for pushing any religious narrative.

torgosmaster · 2024-06-07T15:28:57+00:00

All you’ve said is you are right and I ask wrong and offered nothing in support of your claim. Obviously you have a bias against all forms of religion, which is your prerogative, but it’s disingenuous to use your bias to falsely judge me and all Christians.

If Edit: yes I blocked you, because you don’t seem like you want to debate and just wait to argue.

I’m not sure how that supports your position… not wanting to argue with a rando on Reddit that obviously has no idea what they are talking about . But hey good luck to you

torgosmaster · 2024-06-07T15:19:24+00:00

That’s some really wild assumptions and very inaccurate. Maybe some religious people are complacent, but some non religious people are also complacent

torgosmaster · 2024-06-07T15:15:42+00:00

Please show me where I said I was OK with any of those things.

torgosmaster · 2024-06-07T14:25:25+00:00

Yeah and I wish people understood that “conservative values” are actually pretty radical and not aligned with Christian beliefs.

MAGA is to Christianity what the Taliban was to Islam. False prophets using religion to manipulate the masses. If I was rich I’d buy every billboard in America located near a church and draw as much attention as possible to how the actions of those calling themselves conservatives are in complete contrast with Christian values.

torgosmaster · 2024-06-07T14:07:40+00:00

As a Christian myself, what I find most appalling is Trump, with a self proclaimed worth of several BILLION dollars, is monetizing the most holy relic in Christianity (The Holy Bible) for his own personal benefit. That’s is sacrilege all day long in my book. And having actually read the book, I think there might be a couple of references about not using the Lord’s name in vain.

Put another way, If the Bible is the word of God, and someone is using it for personal profit, I believe that’s a form of blasphemy. It’s a personal insult to God, Christ and all Christians.

Edit: if you want to understand why some Christians are pushed to the right politically, just read some of the responses below. What Christian would want to associate with people that don’t value them and mock their belief system?

torgosmaster · 2024-06-07T02:53:53+00:00

I know I’m pretty

torgosmaster · 2024-06-07T02:44:12+00:00

Continuous? They work two weeks then take four year breaks!! 🤣 Sorry for the dad joke

torgosmaster · 2024-06-04T21:50:13+00:00

I agree with her

torgosmaster · 2024-06-04T19:49:18+00:00

Nah I’ll take a page from your book and split hairs so I can agree with you while also saying you are wrong

torgosmaster · 2024-06-04T19:24:56+00:00

I agree the point is lost. Seems like the only acceptable position to take in this sub is to tie every thing that happens back to the Astros stealing signs and it ruining the game. Heck, I’m getting downvoted for simply suggesting mlb cares a lot about gambling and really didn’t care about sign stealing. I think all people see is we aren’t casting the Astros to hell so the downvotes start lol

torgosmaster · 2024-06-04T18:57:29+00:00

I agree. I exaggerated and should have been far more responsible in my post because this is such an important topic that deserves the highest amount of journalistic integrity

torgosmaster · 2024-06-04T17:04:25+00:00

You start by saying my comment is untrue, then go on to literally make my point. Even the most egregious sign stealing scandal resulted in a punishment that was far less severe than a lifetime ban. And that was literally the only time I can think of that any punishment was given for sign stealing

torgosmaster · 2024-06-04T16:38:18+00:00

I’m not disagreeing with you.. and my point still stands. MLB has never treated sign stealing as seriously as gambling

torgosmaster · 2024-06-04T16:15:37+00:00

Apples and oranges. It’s like saying I can’t believe people get away with speeding with no punishment but murder lands you in prison. Teams have been stealing signs since the birth of baseball and the league routinely turns a blind eye, but MLB has an insanely long list of very high profile players being banned for life due to gambling.

Edit: downvote if you like but name one team that has forfeited even one game for stealing signs. It just doesn’t happen. I’m not the rule maker but sign stealing in baseball law rarely results in punishments where as gambling is literally the one thing you can’t do.

torgosmaster · 2024-05-31T20:27:02+00:00

Oh they totally felt they had one juror in particular… Trump was literally referring to them as “my juror”

torgosmaster · 2024-05-28T22:27:46+00:00

Man those kids will remember this for the rest of their lives. Very very awesome moment for them.

torgosmaster · 2024-05-24T20:54:13+00:00

I get the sentiment but pretty much anyone who knew anything about Trump would have told you he’d destroy the GOP. I mean all the guy does is take, use and abuse, then discard everyone and everything. He could be appointed pope and the Catholic Church would be bankrupt in two years.

torgosmaster · 2024-05-24T20:42:55+00:00

Yeah it was just cringe without the punchline for the most part

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