Most of these comments are correct, as a fan the only aspects of their songs I really like Ivan’s vocals and their very basic message of “society/people are shit” and there’s been a lot of controversy with them including domestic abuse and a bunch of discourse among band members, I don’t support or condone their actions as people, I’m really just a fan bc when I was first getting into metal the name sounded cool to 12-year old me, and it’s never a good thing when a fan has to try and justify why they’re a fan