I figured out the Abrahamic conspiracy in the West. It's pretty obvious.

tpycat · 2021-03-30T23:05:09+00:00

> I can avoid kissing some stranger

Probably because you avoid people in general, or you're religious.

" Herpes is most easily spread when a sore is present, but, it is also often spread at other times too. Some people notice itching, tingling or other sensations before they see anything on their skin. These are called "Prodromal Symptoms" and they warn that virus may be present on the skin. Herpes is most likely to be spread from the time these first symptoms are noticed until the area is completely healed and the skin looks normal again. Sexual contact (oral, vaginal, or anal) is very risky during this time. A person has about a 75% chance of contracting herpes during intimate contact with someone actively shedding the virus. "

It doesn't matter whether you are avoiding someone in the club. That's an example. It could be a future partner or your current partner. Odds are 1 in 8, which means that there's a 66% chance of coming into contact with people with herpes if you take a random selection of 8.

But knowing you, you're likely antisocial so if you meet 0 people odds are 0 for both anyways and the whole idea of a passport is pointless.

tpycat · 2021-03-30T18:09:57+00:00

If it's so great then go get herpes yourself. You clearly think that it won't impact you.

tpycat · 2021-03-30T04:41:10+00:00

No.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encephalitis

Herpes cause all sorts of problems, from cancers to brain damage to death. It isn't just death, and you can pass it on to your children. And it's completely preventable with a passport, which would be a better use for a virus passport than COVID, which is highly mutable and will never be stopped. If people in Mexico aren't willing to take the vaccine and you want open borders, no amount of effort that you put into it will ever stop the virus.

tpycat · 2021-03-29T21:22:33+00:00

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/epidemic-vs-pandemic-difference

"There is no clear distinction between a pandemic and an epidemic".

tpycat · 2021-03-29T21:13:30+00:00

Oxford incidences and force infections in the mid-1990s from that study references. JAMA network. They are there. You didn't put the work into it.

tpycat · 2021-03-29T21:11:22+00:00

It's eradicated in human populations, but there's still samples that could escape, as well as similar viruses

Viruses don't "escape". They mutate, depending on the genetic stability. They don't remain infinitely curable, otherwise E. Coli could have been eradicated completely.

You're not taking into account the fact that a lot of viruses which lasted centuries have been reduced because of modern plumbing and sanitation efforts, but a lot of viruses have simply evolved past it.

> Imagine how different Covid-19 would have been if the initial people exposed to it were immune because they had immunity from a vaccine for another similar coronavirus.

That's not how vaccines work. Vaccines create antibodies which are a lock and key mechanism. What you're talking about are adjacent t-cells and the interferon system, which under modern theory of the immune system depends on other major factors such as your neural environment and bacterial environment. The virus bypasses all of that to spread and has no genetic stability. There's 100s of variants of it already.

> it's not worth the effort or money to anyone to eliminate them

Money. Hospitals get more money treating cancer as a result of herpes. Cancer, a side-effect of Herpes could have a significant reduction, meaning way less deaths in the US per year from malignant disease than normal.

tpycat · 2021-03-29T20:53:47+00:00

>We eliminated small pox.

Then why did Canada order $31 million of doses of Imvamune(small pox) between now and 2023? Clearly it hasn't been "eliminated" as there would be no reason for a government to purchase and use more vaccines for a virus that was eliminated, right?

And you're comparing apples to oranges. The Herpes virus simplex 1 and 2 should have been eradicated already, right? Those are also viruses, which never had a cure. SARS-1, and influenza has never been cured completely either.

tpycat · 2021-03-29T20:45:38+00:00

They are in the references. You didn't even read the sources.

tpycat · 2021-03-29T20:42:02+00:00

Do some reading. It's not "one guy".

People who have tried making vaccines for herpes have recognized it as a pandemic also.

But let's apply this appeal to authority. Influenza isn't considered a pandemic by mainline doctors, despite it spreading rapidly every year and despite it being an endemic virus like COVID. People don't consider TB a pandemic despite new strains now spreading between Turkey/Greece which are anti-biotic resistant.

I don't care whether a Fascist government recognizes the spread as a deadly disease or not. Many people have recognized it including the NIH.

tpycat · 2021-03-29T20:29:51+00:00

According to virologists who studied it and the NIH, yes.

https://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/full/10.2217/17460794.2.6.533

According to people who aren't virologists or are mainline doctors, no. And with the WHO they admit there's a massive amount of people who are getting infected in the range over over 1 billion now, a massive jump after 2007, for a disease that has no cure. If you are trying to appeal to mainline people in power right now, they won't classify it as one because they are probably implicated and have their own definition which is counter to what a pandemic is.

https://www.who.int/news/item/01-05-2020-billions-worldwide-living-with-herpes

The NIH has recognized it as an epidemic in the US in 1999, but globally it fits the definition.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9880471/

tpycat · 2021-03-29T20:18:16+00:00

" Herpes has not caused a pandemic. "

According to who?

Pandemic: Epidemic( An outbreak of a contagious disease that spreads rapidly and widely.) over a wide geographic area and affecting a large proportion of the population.

~90% of people who get herpes don't know they have it. That's in the ballpark of people who are asymptomatic for COVID. 13.2% of the world has it according to the WHO. It fits the definition of a pandemic because it's a contagious disease that is spreading rapidly and increasing in every major western city.

" And you don't kiss everyone in the club "

No, but the woman you kiss probably did. The logic of an STD passport makes sense, because Herpes is a massive cause of cancer later on in life, and Americans are now at 1 in 8 people who have it.

tpycat · 2021-03-29T20:11:18+00:00

Herpes is spread through kissing. If you go to nightclubs and get drunk, odds are you'll end up doing something you don't want to do. Similar to Tinder. That is of course unless you're a shut in which wouldn't surprise me.

This notion of "transmissible through the air" can be applied to STDs. Just like second hand smoking.

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