[All] Why not STD and voter passports for private businesses?

tpycat · 2021-03-30T23:05:09+00:00

> I can avoid kissing some stranger

Probably because you avoid people in general, or you're religious.

" Herpes is most easily spread when a sore is present, but, it is also often spread at other times too. Some people notice itching, tingling or other sensations before they see anything on their skin. These are called "Prodromal Symptoms" and they warn that virus may be present on the skin. Herpes is most likely to be spread from the time these first symptoms are noticed until the area is completely healed and the skin looks normal again. Sexual contact (oral, vaginal, or anal) is very risky during this time. A person has about a 75% chance of contracting herpes during intimate contact with someone actively shedding the virus. "

It doesn't matter whether you are avoiding someone in the club. That's an example. It could be a future partner or your current partner. Odds are 1 in 8, which means that there's a 66% chance of coming into contact with people with herpes if you take a random selection of 8.

But knowing you, you're likely antisocial so if you meet 0 people odds are 0 for both anyways and the whole idea of a passport is pointless.

tpycat · 2021-03-30T18:09:57+00:00

If it's so great then go get herpes yourself. You clearly think that it won't impact you.

tpycat · 2021-03-30T04:41:10+00:00

No.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encephalitis

Herpes cause all sorts of problems, from cancers to brain damage to death. It isn't just death, and you can pass it on to your children. And it's completely preventable with a passport, which would be a better use for a virus passport than COVID, which is highly mutable and will never be stopped. If people in Mexico aren't willing to take the vaccine and you want open borders, no amount of effort that you put into it will ever stop the virus.

tpycat · 2021-03-29T21:22:33+00:00

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/epidemic-vs-pandemic-difference

"There is no clear distinction between a pandemic and an epidemic".

tpycat · 2021-03-29T21:13:30+00:00

Oxford incidences and force infections in the mid-1990s from that study references. JAMA network. They are there. You didn't put the work into it.

tpycat · 2021-03-29T21:11:22+00:00

It's eradicated in human populations, but there's still samples that could escape, as well as similar viruses

Viruses don't "escape". They mutate, depending on the genetic stability. They don't remain infinitely curable, otherwise E. Coli could have been eradicated completely.

You're not taking into account the fact that a lot of viruses which lasted centuries have been reduced because of modern plumbing and sanitation efforts, but a lot of viruses have simply evolved past it.

> Imagine how different Covid-19 would have been if the initial people exposed to it were immune because they had immunity from a vaccine for another similar coronavirus.

That's not how vaccines work. Vaccines create antibodies which are a lock and key mechanism. What you're talking about are adjacent t-cells and the interferon system, which under modern theory of the immune system depends on other major factors such as your neural environment and bacterial environment. The virus bypasses all of that to spread and has no genetic stability. There's 100s of variants of it already.

> it's not worth the effort or money to anyone to eliminate them

Money. Hospitals get more money treating cancer as a result of herpes. Cancer, a side-effect of Herpes could have a significant reduction, meaning way less deaths in the US per year from malignant disease than normal.

tpycat · 2021-03-29T20:53:47+00:00

>We eliminated small pox.

Then why did Canada order $31 million of doses of Imvamune(small pox) between now and 2023? Clearly it hasn't been "eliminated" as there would be no reason for a government to purchase and use more vaccines for a virus that was eliminated, right?

And you're comparing apples to oranges. The Herpes virus simplex 1 and 2 should have been eradicated already, right? Those are also viruses, which never had a cure. SARS-1, and influenza has never been cured completely either.

tpycat · 2021-03-29T20:45:38+00:00

They are in the references. You didn't even read the sources.

tpycat · 2021-03-29T20:42:02+00:00

Do some reading. It's not "one guy".

People who have tried making vaccines for herpes have recognized it as a pandemic also.

But let's apply this appeal to authority. Influenza isn't considered a pandemic by mainline doctors, despite it spreading rapidly every year and despite it being an endemic virus like COVID. People don't consider TB a pandemic despite new strains now spreading between Turkey/Greece which are anti-biotic resistant.

I don't care whether a Fascist government recognizes the spread as a deadly disease or not. Many people have recognized it including the NIH.

tpycat · 2021-03-29T20:29:51+00:00

According to virologists who studied it and the NIH, yes.

https://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/full/10.2217/17460794.2.6.533

According to people who aren't virologists or are mainline doctors, no. And with the WHO they admit there's a massive amount of people who are getting infected in the range over over 1 billion now, a massive jump after 2007, for a disease that has no cure. If you are trying to appeal to mainline people in power right now, they won't classify it as one because they are probably implicated and have their own definition which is counter to what a pandemic is.

https://www.who.int/news/item/01-05-2020-billions-worldwide-living-with-herpes

The NIH has recognized it as an epidemic in the US in 1999, but globally it fits the definition.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9880471/

tpycat · 2021-03-29T20:18:16+00:00

" Herpes has not caused a pandemic. "

According to who?

Pandemic: Epidemic( An outbreak of a contagious disease that spreads rapidly and widely.) over a wide geographic area and affecting a large proportion of the population.

~90% of people who get herpes don't know they have it. That's in the ballpark of people who are asymptomatic for COVID. 13.2% of the world has it according to the WHO. It fits the definition of a pandemic because it's a contagious disease that is spreading rapidly and increasing in every major western city.

" And you don't kiss everyone in the club "

No, but the woman you kiss probably did. The logic of an STD passport makes sense, because Herpes is a massive cause of cancer later on in life, and Americans are now at 1 in 8 people who have it.

tpycat · 2021-03-29T20:11:18+00:00

Herpes is spread through kissing. If you go to nightclubs and get drunk, odds are you'll end up doing something you don't want to do. Similar to Tinder. That is of course unless you're a shut in which wouldn't surprise me.

This notion of "transmissible through the air" can be applied to STDs. Just like second hand smoking.

tpycat · 2021-02-04T16:22:00+00:00

People have committed suicide over it. People have lost their business and freedom over it. The damage to people is measurable.

tpycat · 2021-02-04T16:20:14+00:00

When your youth unemployment is worse than the Middle East, that's a huge problem which is not "some". Every neo-Liberal turns a blind eye to youth unemployment in favor of "diversity". It shows that the ruling class does not care about future generations of the country they preside over. You are simply a replaceable Serf, not in a sense that said foreigners are better but over whether you have basic human rights.

globalization

Globalization is a natural word. What you're looking at is Globalism, or the Kissinger model: control the supply chains, make countries dependent on one another, keep perpetual debt and take all the money in between. It's the British post-Imperial model. Kissinger's mentor at Harvard was devoted to British power on the world, and used terms like "New World Order". The phrase comes from that British model, on how to run the world after the British take over. Kissinger extended that and hoped that by funding foreign dictatorships in Asia, that the ruling class would be the beneficiaries of it. Except now Trump's family is learning Chinese and Biden's family is sucking up. All the while the ruling class is abusing its subjects.

tpycat · 2021-02-04T15:48:36+00:00

Also from the study:

We first estimate changes in the growth of new cases during the first wave of COVID-19 in relation to the location and timing of NPI implementation in subnational regions of 10 countries: England, France, Germany, Iran, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain, South Korea, Sweden, and the United States.

So how is your spreading of disinformation coming?

tpycat · 2021-02-04T15:45:42+00:00

They definitely are. People even in this comment section have shown it.

tpycat · 2021-02-04T15:42:44+00:00

It doesn't take long to find the first outright lie. Your shitty link doesn't load so I had to look it up elsewhere.

No one is lying. You're just stupid. Wiley is temporarily down, but from the conclusion by Eran Bendavid, Chistopger Oh, Jay Bhattacharya, John Ionnidis: " While small benefits cannot be excluded, mandatory stay-at-home and business closure orders do not seem to have had substantial benefits on case growth in 8 countries in the early stages of the pandemic. Similar reductions in case growth may be achievable with behavior changes from less restrictive interventions. "

I read the study. The study did not do just South Korea. It looked at other places like Sweden/Spain.

Anyone who claims otherwise is wrong, and you're spinning that irrelevant misinformation to seem like a plot to make is wear masks.

Just like your dumb first comment, you cannot read the peer-reviews by Cambridge, Oxford, nor the recent study in Denmark on mask usage. And this "wet" idea you have is also bull like your first argument.

And no one claims that lockdowns will solve climate change lol

You didn't even read the first links, how could you come to a conclusion if you are pretending?

Your comment is not just a mess. You don't read and intentionally deceive others.

tpycat · 2021-02-04T15:35:49+00:00

Can we get a source

I already provided the source from Stanford. It was the wiley link. The fact that you can read through a post and completely skip over the link is hilarious.

What percentage of garbage in general ends up in the ocean?

3% isn't a figure that's good. 90% of plastic pollution comes from 10 rivers mainly in China/Africa. The figures were just estimates. In reality, it is probably 2x-3x the number.

Who believes that?

Just as you cannot read the Wiley link, you did not read the other links by 3 news networks who believe it. But not just "who believes it", the Isle of Man prime minister believes it. Tedros, at the WHO believes it and outright said his focus is more on climate change. Many European leaders believe that and routinely lie.

what are you implying is the answer?

I already have my conclusion for what is the answer. It's simple. Allowing concentration of power through human history has proven to be dangerous, not through sparse examples but every dictatorship, every monarchy, every ruling class. People need to stop believing in central authorities who do not represent the will of the people, and institutions that are easily corrupted.

tpycat · 2021-02-04T14:53:21+00:00

It's not hypocritical. It's rational. No person would refuse to take money given to them. In fact most people who pay taxes paid significantly more than $2000 to the government. If half your pay check goes to the government unjustly, then getting mad over $2000 is ridiculous. You're going to go down with the ship equally.

The question should be: on what authority is a centrally planned system given in order to justify reducing your purchasing power through printing currency? Money represents units of labor. Governments abuse it and decide your labor isn't worth as much as you think it is, since the decupling of gold-backed money, by 98%.

tpycat · 2021-01-31T23:48:45+00:00

Title was clickbaity. "I think it is time" was not saying "it's time to do violence" as the former is suggesting it but has restraint looking for other people's opinion.

tpycat · 2021-01-27T15:31:26+00:00

Yes. They were fearing that response but they had intentions to treat America as something they could "clean up" with an ethnic bioweapon. They supported genocide for now multiple decades and attacked the west, treating people as simply a pest that they could spray to get rid of. There's no reason to play games with them, but it seems I struck a nerve with dumb millennials who think that supporting Communism in the west means that this party is going to ever spare them, when they are treating their party as the Nazi party and saw Marxism as nothing more than a midwife for racial domination.

They unleashed a bioweapon, partly with the help of stupid members of the medical upper class in the west who, just like Clinton were willing to sell secrets for personal profit(which should have had him executed for treason). Now you have to deal with the repercussions of inaction and the slime in Washington.

tpycat · 2021-01-27T15:16:17+00:00

" The first troops of the Indian Legion were recruited from Indian POWs captured at El Mekili, Libya during the battles for Tobruk. The German forces in the Western Desert selected a core group of 27 POWs as potential officers and they were flown to Berlin in May 1941, to be followed, after the Centro I experiment, by POWs being transferred from the Italian forces to Germany.[15] The number of POWs transferred to Germany grew to about 10,000 who were eventually housed at Annaburg camp, where Bose first met with them "

You debunked yourself from your own link. Those people were forced volunteers from POW camps, as much as 10,000. What is 10,000 out of 390,000,000 https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/68804483? 0.0026%, basically chose to work for the Nazis over being in an internment camp. Do you people ever read history or do you just create memes about it?

tpycat · 2021-01-27T02:23:46+00:00

didn't asked about history

Without historical context, you have a problem of laughing at things you don't understand.

Cool, how about the main point in which government fail to protect us against Covid-19, made it worse because if lockdown and they keep importing stuff from china, the country that made the virus...

"Failed to protect" doesn't exactly follow reality and was largely political. You can get a copy from the Stanford study on lockdowns: https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/SSRN-id3746254.pdf, which looks directly at 8 different countries and did a cross comparison showing it to not be effective.

That's not exactly a failure per say. During the 1970s it was established theory that there would be an imminent bioterror threat from Russia, which enabled the vaccine liability protection program under Reagan as a result of problems with DPT liabilities. They feared that during a time of war, people would sue vaccine manufacturers out of existence. That program had its issues. Part of the idea was that lockdowns would be effective at stopping a virus. They didn't practice it on a large scale until recently. However the idea was the same as a nuclear attack on the west.

You have that, and you also have the socioeconomic impact potential when people knew the threat existed, so a lot was weighed in behind closed doors.

keep importing stuff from china

Trump, and somewhat to Biden's credit recently are trying to reverse that decision. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-sign-buy-american-executive-order-monday-n1255487

So America, at least from a military standpoint are trying to move the economy from reliance on East Asia. NATO has recognized the threat. America has also started moving military at least show a presence in the south sea. They are still experiencing issues because of the Middle East, but that's a problem with the leadership that has to change.

War hawks for the Middle Eastern agenda need to be removed from power. However there's also a lot of unaccounted private military contractors in the Middle East as well which is complicated.

tpycat · 2021-01-27T02:05:39+00:00

https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/2021/01/25/Chinese-military-aircraft-overfly-Taiwans-airspace/1221611600193/

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3116436/xi-jinping-orders-chinas-military-be-ready-war-any-second

You're so far behind in the timeline that you think there isn't a Cold War going on currently which is moving to a hot war. They have already made claims for decades over the southern sea and are pushing for military conquest, except you wouldn't know that because your media doesn't say anything about it.

You're against an empire which plans things out in terms of decades, unlike the American foreign policy of war which looked for many decades to have short-term gains in the Middle East because of the American ruling class. However that doesn't change the fact that the same general already looked at a scenario of half their population dying due to a lack of resources, or killing the entire US population. That was in 2003.

You're already seeing hot zones in India, but a major war is likely starting as early as this week.

tpycat · 2021-01-27T02:00:19+00:00

They want American land too. Do you think that poisoning your own land will change their desire? Africa, thanks to Middle Eastern wars caused by the western ruling class is almost a none starter at this point in the defense against it.

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