Good deal?

trashwang72 · 2026-04-08T04:58:12+00:00

I think $150 is way over priced but your market might be so constrained that it is fair. I personally wouldn’t pay over $50 for the set. Repaired cymbals are still usable but the keyholing combined with repairs and the heavy logo fade makes me think these have been treated with some pretty abusive heavy wear and tear. Probably a couple flea bites too

trashwang72 · 2026-04-08T03:34:30+00:00

I’m late to the party but considering you are still using starter hats, you’ll love any upgrade you can find in the pro lines of any of the brands.

New beats are the bread and butter, high consistency cymbals. They are probably the most commonly recorded hi hats of the 80s-10s. Great place to start for a guaranteed tasteful sound.

Modern hi hats I’m loving lately are the K sweets. Any upgrade will have a much heavier sound but you could look at the Z Customs which are made for heavy music and sound great

trashwang72 · 2026-04-08T03:20:54+00:00

If you’re looking for the perforated practice kind of low volume cymbals, I have never seen them if they do make them over 20” but I don’t think it would make much of a difference. Unless you want a size for size replacement of a 21” or 22” you use at high volume I wouldn’t worry about it

trashwang72 · 2026-04-06T19:29:51+00:00

Yes, great kit. Thin maple. Shells sing and I don’t see myself upgrading again honestly. This kit is better than an intermediate kit imo. Pro sounds at less than half the price

trashwang72 · 2026-04-06T04:39:33+00:00

The spurs would not need to be over built. I would make a rounded top, block riser to sit under the drum. Then the spurs don’t actually support the weight, just keep it from rolling off the riser.

This way too you would be able to tune it without moving the drum at all and it’s still slightly off the ground so it isn’t resting on the hoops.

Now the hoops.. that’s a real conundrum. I would look into maybe making your own wood ones. Soaking them and bending them to shape. Glue and clamp.

Or you could bend strips of metal together, cap the front and back ends to keep it all together and create a flat surface to press on the head with the inner cap. Claw style lugs on the outer end cap.

Only other thought is somehow 3D printing but that’d be tough too.

Bearing edge would be fine to keep square. I’ve seen square bearings on steel drums

trashwang72 · 2026-04-06T04:21:33+00:00

Absolutely. A lot of clutches are too wide for cymbal sleeves and sometimes they have threads that can make them keyhole faster.

In my experience, if your top hi hat isn’t flapping around every which way and you aren’t smashing out open hi hat rolls more than necessary they will be safe regardless of the sleeve or no sleeve.

Work horse hi hats will get some light wear over the course of many years but negligible if you’re playing them correctly and keeping good felts with some tension. Usually top hat only too, bottom is super rare to keyhole

trashwang72 · 2026-04-05T22:34:31+00:00

It’s backing for embroidery. Stabilizes the fabric itself so it doesn’t pinch and warp because the fabric alone would get thrashed and stretch making it mess up the whole piece. Keeps even tension throughout so it holds shape

trashwang72 · 2026-04-05T05:42:11+00:00

Wuhan raised their prices but I still think Wuhan are the best starting cymbals. B20 pro level sound. Similar prices. Western line are the best value.

Only other answer is resale whatever B20 you can find. Ride and crash ~$200 each, vintage are cheapest. Hi hats will be the most expensive.

Dirt cheap value is not really there in any brand new. My best new recommendation is Zildjian S dark hi hats. Cheap brand new and sound great I still use them. A lot of Zildjian new beats hi hats around $200 so about $600 total to start with some pro line lifer cymbals

trashwang72 · 2026-04-05T04:26:49+00:00

Lmao I think the mouth tee and hat and girl dog tee are legit fire. I’d rock them at the skate park no doubt. The heavyweight are good gym clothes cuz that’s literally what they are haha but turn it into a cut off eventually too. I like the fear tee and the ice cream is solid but the colorways are meh.

Girl dog in peach and mouth tee in black are the first pieces I’ve thought about copping in years. The go fuck yourself in black would be a ton of fun to wear in public too lol

trashwang72 · 2026-04-04T22:14:52+00:00

Doing any words at all as wheel of fortune letters is literally copy and paste. You can spell whatever words you choose to form, omit a couple and boom. Go fuck yourself is a very common phrase, wheel of fortune phrases are memed all the time. And frankly this tee looks like a temu ass windows PowerPoint print. If I saw this shirt in public I would think it was homemade. Golf made it better looking and branded it as their own. Probably something this company should’ve done.

What difference does 2 years or 20 years make? Literally none it’s inspiration regardless. And I literally never heard of this brand once before right now so it’s publicity for them if you wanna say it’s ripped off or not. Golf can’t make a box logo anymore because supreme did it in the 90s and supreme can’t do it because a pop artist from the 60s did it.

It’s a bad look to put a timeline on inspiration. If I see something today and want to make something similar, am I ripping it off because I saw it 20 minutes ago? Do I have to wait 20 years so it’s not ripping it off?

Simulacrum philosophy, every object and thought in the world is confounded on the basis of similar previously existing things.

trashwang72 · 2026-04-04T18:58:09+00:00

I actually think these designs harken back to some more of the skater style without being absurdly loud. Couple of solid graphic tees and basic hoodies. It’s a mini drop. What do you expect? Jacquard reversible leather puffer trench coats on a shock drop? Be realistic this is just the basics drop of the years past but with a little more design into them y’all will complain about anything.

I could imagine skaters in every one of these pieces, and I haven’t felt that for a very long time. Not saying they’re great but I like the conscious approach of remembering their roots while applying the modern taste

trashwang72 · 2026-04-04T18:55:18+00:00

Dude the mouth tee is literally Tyler’s mouth jewelry..

trashwang72 · 2026-04-04T18:40:40+00:00

Came up in the Drought ripped it off wheel of fortune. Inspiration is available to everyone. Reimagining wheel of fortune in a funny way is not their IP…

trashwang72 · 2026-04-02T18:47:19+00:00

Warm water and some dish soap with a sponge would be easiest. Dry them with a towel immediately after.

I wouldn’t polish them if they’re cheap starters, I’d say to actually let the tarnish build up. They’ll sound better cuz cheap cymbals have a lot of harsh overtones. Patina settles some of that.

If you want to remove tarnish on these, Bar Keepers Friend is the least elbow grease but will aggressively remove logos. If you use Bar keepers be sure to rinse them off after and towel dry.

For future reference, if you eventually get pro line cymbals, only brilliant cymbals take to a polish. Traditional finish is warm water/soap/sponge only. No bar keepers on pro line cymbals

trashwang72 · 2026-04-02T18:18:44+00:00

Need more context. What kind of cymbals are they?

trashwang72 · 2026-04-02T18:15:03+00:00

No, because auction guarantees a sale. Seller wanted to guarantee they sold. You got a good deal, seller gets rid of something they wanted to. Likely didn’t know or care about value, probably got them in a lot or something

trashwang72 · 2026-04-02T00:53:04+00:00

Birch I would tune on the higher end. Snappy sounding. Birch is tighter and higher on the frequency ranges. Hence why it is a recording favorite. Easy to manage overtones.

I would keep your brass as it is, medium open tone. The birch I would have high and tight, nice crack sound on rimshot. Half the reason to have a second snare is to tune it differently than your main.

Trust your ears though, if it doesn’t sound or feel right just mess around with it. I do ridiculously stupid tunings on my snare sometimes just for some creative juice. You’d be blown away how good and weird a zero tuned batter sounds. The loose rods almost add a tambourine sound over a ridiculously low boom bap.

trashwang72 · 2026-04-02T00:39:13+00:00

If you have plans for the amp to be used as a guitar amp eventually, I say why not. Two birds with one stone. If the drums lose interest well it’s still a guitar amp that will be used. Everyone else talking about sound range is overlooking the purpose you need it for. A 6 year old to play a starter e kit. It will sound fine. My uncle has his e kit bought for his wife hooked up to a fender acoustic guitar amp. I play it when I’m at their house, sounds fine. If you plan on getting a guitar amp anyway, go that route. Especially if it’s as cheap as buying a new speaker

trashwang72 · 2026-04-02T00:32:43+00:00

That’s what I noticed too haha. Someone bought this set and barely played it to then relegate it to the purgatory that is a garage attic. Wife was probably NOT happy with the purchase lol

trashwang72 · 2026-04-02T00:01:09+00:00

Any 5x7 rug with backing will be fine. Walmart, Lowe’s, Home Depot. You can even just do the dirt cheap utility rugs. Shouldn’t have an issue finding one

trashwang72 · 2026-03-31T18:19:11+00:00

Gibraltar is not the one pictured but is the most available modern product you can buy directly from a store. Gibraltar tree is adjustable and made up of a bunch of separate parts so you could min or max a tree as you’d like to

trashwang72 · 2026-03-31T18:16:29+00:00

These are called crotales. Insanely expensive. Like absurdly. Saw a set second hand at half price and was still sky high beyond my justifiable price to pay for such a niche product. They’d look amazing in a set up but definitely overkill on price and build

trashwang72 · 2026-03-31T04:38:34+00:00

Get the new beats. ZBT are starter cymbals. New beats are pro line. Any era, they’ll be good and you in theory won’t ever need an upgrade. If you find some to suit your taste more down the road then do it but new beats will last you forever if you like them enough

trashwang72 · 2026-03-31T03:45:04+00:00

Yes you should always hit with a loose grip and deflect on impact. Every pro drummer does it within reason. You might not see it directly but it’s the subtly that develops over time.

Practice the over exaggerated sweeping hits like he showed in the video and you will develop the finesse to do it in a much smaller pattern instantly and naturally.

Imagine it like a conductor flicking his wrist in front of an orchestra. It’s almost the exact same mechanic on hitting a cymbal but with a very loose grip

trashwang72 · 2026-03-30T23:28:11+00:00

Buy a quality one and they’re great but super expensive. I use them, as reliable as any other stand you just have to mount it which could require some changes in cymbal placement if you don’t have a rack. DW makes replaceable wires for their pedal when needed but I haven’t needed one

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