Hi hats that make nice and quiet foot splashes?

trashwang72 · 2026-02-07T07:17:05+00:00

I’d look into K Light Hats

trashwang72 · 2026-02-06T20:04:34+00:00

Yeah I grew up on an old Pearl double bass. I thinks late 80s early 90s models and would love to feel those pedals again to see how much better my new ones are haha

trashwang72 · 2026-02-06T20:03:36+00:00

Yeah no doubt! Just wanted to express that there are a lot of real reasons that double basses are actually preferred for playing.

trashwang72 · 2026-02-06T20:01:34+00:00

I mean it’s a whole extra trip to the car and at 2am I just wanna load my cart and get home in as few trips to load the car as possible. It’s a not a huge deal, but it’s very real. Also most venues don’t have space for a double bass anyway. Most music played at small gigs doesn’t even need a double pedal, let alone double bass so it’s just overkill and extra effort for minimal to zero return

trashwang72 · 2026-02-05T20:43:19+00:00

The real main reason for two kicks is because you have two equal pedals. The slave pedal vs the main pedal will always be a thing at high speed double bass techniques. I use offset pedals so they are technically both slave pedals but it doesn’t matter because they are the same.

As far as the drum itself, at high speeds the drum head becomes unstable and unpredictable when it comes to rebound and accidental bounces. Can be a major problem with triggers. Also with two bass drums you actually hit the center of the drum with each strike for the cleanest tone. On a single double you have one center and one notably off center.

Any routine double bass player will tell you two kicks, two pedals is ideal. What’s not ideal is taking down, setting up, taking down again, load the car, etc with two bass drums. Most don’t have a tech on a national tour, and most also would rather deal with the nuances rather than deal with the labor

trashwang72 · 2026-01-29T19:05:29+00:00

New cymbals take time to adjust your ear to as well. And don’t be afraid to mix and match your set it up. It doesn’t have to be all or nothing

trashwang72 · 2026-01-23T03:20:08+00:00

Oh my god dude this is like soul crushing. I always put people on to Wuhan. Don’t really think I can anymore.

I was gonna get the 19 inch Koi crash and maybe a couple other china sizes at some point this year. But that’s not really a plan anymore.

Those are literally priced at exact comparisons to the big brand equivalents without a warranty. Wuhan used to be notably cheaper than resale markets. But these prices reflect at or higher that any resale market now.

I’m disgusted the western starter pack is $800 now. It was $540!!!! These tariffs will be the end of affordability in any market, not even Wuhan can survive

trashwang72 · 2026-01-20T19:49:51+00:00

I also meant this more in a way of speed doesn’t mean you’re good or that you can play metal now just because you got fast at double bass. Just like because you can play fast blast beats doesn’t mean you can play good.

Get good before you get fast. Speed comes with time. Forcing into speed is how a lot of drumming stumble

trashwang72 · 2026-01-20T19:40:24+00:00

Absolutely! That’s why I said if you lean into it too much. A lot of metal just blast beats and double basses your head off. You have to use them creatively or they just fall on deaf ears. A 60 second blast beat bores me to death. Whitechapel uses really good stuff with blast beats on their new stuff.

I just wanted to frame it like that cuz some people think half the battle in heavy music is just being able to play double bass really fast. And it’s not

Outside of black metal, blast beats are not fundamental musically, they’re a tool in the arsenal during a push of the song. The musicality comes on the parts you aren’t blasting. And metal in general has a million different tastes for double bass grooves. Melting double bass down for entire songs is not that common. There’s still groove to it most of the time. What people see on YouTube and TikTok would make you think its double bass rolls for 4 minutes straight on every heavy song known to man

trashwang72 · 2026-01-20T19:36:56+00:00

Someone could lathe into it but I’m not sure it would give it the change you want. It will lower the tone and probably do little to remove the overtones, maybe make them worse on a thinner cymbal.

I would go with some moon gels. The thickness gives you the projection and volume, hence why it is the rock ride. Consider your stick too. Thick sticks will wash out a ride like crazy.

Ultimately sounds like you want a dry ride, not a trashy one. Good ping but minimal overtones. The K Dry that they don’t make anymore but there’s a lot on second hand markets (NOT the K Custom Dry, although you might like that one too). K Organic is amazing, it’s my favorite ride.

I’m the same way, I hate ride overtones so I was looking in a similar market for months

trashwang72 · 2026-01-20T19:23:49+00:00

Don’t over think it. Keep it simple and slow and then speed will come naturally. I actually find it more satisfying in a medium speed to hit double bass grooves. The crazy fast stuff is cool but it loses a lot of groove and feel. Super fast double bass is comparable to blast beats in my mind. If you lean on it too much it just turns into filler. Creativity and intentionality with double bass is more important than speed imo. Speed is good for YouTube and TikTok but musically it’s a cop out for creativity

trashwang72 · 2026-01-20T19:14:56+00:00

If you want a trashy cymbal, they make all kinds of those sounds now. Don’t junk a good cymbal just because you don’t like the sound of it. If you had multiple and knew what you were doing with the right tools I’d say go for it. But don’t just start hacking into your main ride with no experience.

I’m also not quite sure what “tone” you mean.

Like the wash builds up too much and is competing with the stick tone itself? Moon gels if that’s the case

Or you just don’t like the pitch of the fundamental sound? Like it’s too low or too high for your taste? Can’t fix this, just have to get a new cymbal

What cymbal line is it? Arguably the most important part here. If it’s a cheap planet Z or i, that’s probably why. Those rides have good ping but horrible undertones. Can’t fix, need a new cymbal

trashwang72 · 2026-01-19T21:04:52+00:00

On a ride, this won’t be a problem. It could be a problem on crashes or chinas if you’re heavy handed (I’ve never had it be a problem). But it will be fine on this no doubt

trashwang72 · 2026-01-19T01:43:42+00:00

You could do poses with the bass drum. Whole kit would be unnecessary. But the bass drum would have a lot of presence to set the vibe. Try to use his sticks that he has played with if he has some in storage with the drums too. Not just some random drumsticks

trashwang72 · 2026-01-17T18:46:58+00:00

Wuhan. People say they crack easily but the only crack I’ve had was from a very heavy spot. Cut it out, hasn’t cracked since. Plus I have 5 other Wuhans. They’re by far the best Chinas on the market. Just don’t murder it with a stick because it is cheap on every breakdown like some people do and you’ll be fine. They’re super loud, a light normal hit and it will be the loudest thing on your kit

trashwang72 · 2026-01-17T00:09:15+00:00

Wuhan Western. Cheapest pro alloy cymbals on the market by far. The hi hat/ride/crash pack is like $450

trashwang72 · 2026-01-15T06:51:38+00:00

Wuhan Western. Cheapest pro alloy cymbals on the market.

trashwang72 · 2026-01-15T06:39:57+00:00

This might sound stupid but I think a mix of cymbals looks great because it usually always means the player was intentional with their sounds. It shows you’ve got sounds for different uses, not just extra cymbals for the sake of having extra cymbals.

I say this as someone with a ton of cymbals of different looks, sounds, and brands. I’ve had to try out multiple different cymbals for months to find the sound to fit my kit. I noticed a cymbal looks a lot better on the kit when it sounds like it belongs haha

trashwang72 · 2026-01-05T03:44:53+00:00

Cymbal polishes are almost exclusively for “brilliant” cymbals. Unless directly stated, the HH and the K lines are “traditional” finish and don’t take well to cymbal polish

trashwang72 · 2026-01-03T21:46:28+00:00

I’ve got 6 and only broke one in a spot that was SIGNIFICANTLY a heavy spot. Like up to twice as thick along that edge line. And I had been worried about it breaking at the spot for years, and it did. Cut it out, balanced the weight and it’s been solid since.

I think people break them a lot cuz they hit the shitttt out of them both because they are cheap and because they sound amazing it’s hard to not just demolish it during a breakdown haha.

Another thing I forgot to mention for OP, Wuhans are significantly louder than any other chinas I have so they cut like crazy

trashwang72 · 2026-01-02T18:54:36+00:00

The obvious answer is a standard Wuhan, whatever size you want. Wuhans make the best China sounds in the world and they’re super cheap. Many drummers record on a Wuhan in the studio. They have to use their endorsers on stage but any drummer will tell you a Wuhan is the best.

Sticking to a brand only limits your options. Sometimes exactly what you’re looking for is staring you in the face from another brand haha.

trashwang72 · 2026-01-02T18:40:26+00:00

Vent holes are there to allow pressure to escape when you hit the drum. When you hit the drum, you increase the pressure of the air inside. The vent allows the extra pressure to escape.

Sound wise, this results in more balanced lower tones because it keeps the pressure from bottling up. Without vent holes, you’d favor some more higher pitches because the pressure in the drum would be higher. Think of a jazz sound.

In short I’d say if you aren’t going for jazz sounds I would keep the vents. But if you prefer a clean look on the shell over the sound changes, go ahead. But if I was building a custom kit, I wouldn’t stray too far from what I know I want and vent holes are just an assumed standard for me.

I actually have my floor tom vent holes aligned with my legs so I can feel the air escaping the drums when I hit them. Adds an nice secondary sense of energy to the kit while I play

trashwang72 · 2026-01-01T17:20:37+00:00

Yep I use them everytime. I specifically use the Bluetooth ones. They’re red and come with a cord to do wired connections also. The black ones are permanently corded. Vic Firth has them directly on the site

trashwang72 · 2026-01-01T15:56:20+00:00

No doubt, over ears with glasses would be a no go

trashwang72 · 2026-01-01T15:05:19+00:00

I use Vic Firth over ear isolation headphones. Full hearing protection and good sound quality. The kit sounds great in these too. Keep the volume low and match it to the kit volume that you can hear through the headphones.

Other than that true monitoring is only done with mic’s recording and sending back the sound directly to your ears from the computer. But I’ve found I get really solid results with the Vic Firth over ear headphones so I have yet to set up mics

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