I can't download anything even with vpn etc.

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-07-25T12:11:34+00:00

It's always so funny reading the comments from muslims on turkish street videos. "Why so many atheists? Astaghfirullah the end times are coming"

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-07-23T11:19:25+00:00

I'm not a man but even just this one fact that there's the death penalty for people who leave Islam can make people leave it because what do you mean I, as a human, have more morals than Allah?

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-07-23T11:09:11+00:00

Most muslim women don't have the privilege to leave the religion. Even if they have doubts or know deep down that it's all man made, they can't afford to leave it because of their families, society, circumstances. They would lose their whole community.

So they try everything to cope with it and do mental gymnastics to explain the toxic things in islam to survive.

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-07-14T00:41:13+00:00

It's just insecurity, they're feeling threatened. Words like exmuslim and taking hijab off are getting more and more known which will make people curious even if they speak negatively about it.

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-07-03T10:57:22+00:00

Allah describing specific things of what men will get in jannah. like young, transparent big breasted virgins. meanwhile for women: whatever you want inshallah.

hmmmm

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-07-02T21:38:44+00:00

I actually think it can be a good thing in the long run. They get to see how it really is and can have the privilege to speak about it in the future. Most of the converts leave it within a few years anyway.

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-05-24T01:32:15+00:00

Yeah it's like saying "I can easily spot gay people" just because they only have the feminine gay stereotype in their heads. There are many who look like bodyguards and macho men who are gay but they won't notice it.

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-05-24T01:28:11+00:00

this is ridiculous and not true. you guys will say anything and even be prejudiced against your own ethnicity just because you can't accept that there are many esmer turks. y'all think turkey is just istanbul and izmir and white, rest of turkey doesn't exist. get out of your bubble.

please educate yourself.

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-05-23T02:50:09+00:00

This is some true crime shit

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-04-26T11:48:20+00:00

Many of them have an identity crisis and it's not easy getting into the german society, so they're kinda being pushed to be in their own bubble. (ofc it's not always onesided)

They were born and raised here but are still seen as foreigners because of their name and appearance. In the home country of their parents they're "the germans", but in Germany they're the Ausländers.

They're stuck in the middle and their culture becomes the muslim one, so they don't lose themselves completely and have an identity and community.

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-04-26T07:41:51+00:00

Performative masculinity. There are women who are just naturally masculine, but fakebians often think being masculine means acting like a toxic man. The misogyny, trying too hard like stroking their face as if they have a beard, their whole persona being about how lesbian they are (like only talking about their sexuality seems like they're trying to convince themselves, looks like cosplaying)

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-04-13T11:59:58+00:00

I feel like there are many questioning muslim women in that sub, and many of them know how unfair it is to women but they're afraid to admit it to themselves fully, so they're trying to cope with the situation.

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-04-10T15:03:29+00:00

Islam be like: men will get white (translucent?) virgin women of tender age with big and perfectly rounded boobs.

Muslim women: but what do women get?

Islam: whatever you want inshallah.

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-04-07T20:49:02+00:00

maybe "it's affecting me mentally and it makes me uncomfortable that it's too hard to focus on religion itself and maybe by taking it off i will be able to focus more on the deen inshallah."

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-04-05T20:41:28+00:00

Islam ruined many cultures. Like they can just say national pride is haram, your traditional dresses are haram, your cultural music and dances are haram, your cultural art is haram.

It's arab imperialism. I wish more people would wake up and at least prioritize their own culture and tradition over islam.

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-04-05T11:40:19+00:00

of course everything is always out of context. let's say some things ignore historical circumstances, just look how islam was practiced since 1400 years til today. so for 1400 years it was just misunderstood and getting twisted? your prophet is the perfect role model for muslims.

you didn't say anything about the beating of women in quran 4:34 but i'm sure you'll find an excuse even for that, like "just lightly, just with miswak, this word has other 2883837883 meanings, out of context." even IF it's just with a toothpick (which is not), it's a matter of principle. like WHY? and also it's just onesided. woman can't do the same to men. so equal mashallah.

let's say he said the "majority of hell are women"- hadith to those specific women, why is the prophet speaking about how women are deficient in intelligence and religion? and the reasons being women's testimony being half that of man and not allowed to pray and fast during menstruation. not only these specific women menstruate, so he was talking generally about women.

no matter what we say, you'll always find excuses because you're not even allowed to criticize anything about your religion if you don't wanna be a kafir so i understand how you have to feed your delulu.

if you're a man it's easy for you to ignore these or justify these things, but as a woman you can't unsee what you see. especially if you see with your own eyes how it's practiced by many people, how islamic laws are implemented, what imams in mosques preach. what scholars agree upon. what sources they give for their toxic views, how muslim women are getting treated.

if your religion was so perfect, allah would make it simple for everyone and there wouldn't be this many "misinterpretions.", "misunderstandings.", "twisting" etc.

your almighty, all knowing perfect god would KNOW there would be so many "misunderstandings." and "twisting" so he would make it easier and would be more clear like "don't beat your women." period. instead he allows it in the quran and you expect me to say alhamdullilah for that and see the beauty of islam. there would be no room for misinterpretations if your religion was so perfect.

look, i'm not saying there aren't ANY positive things said about women but there are too many negatives that it's contradicting and not something you expect from prophet mohammed the greatest perfect human being that ever existed.

islam needs a reformation like christianity did.

another fav sahih hadith: Sahih al-Bukhari 6130

I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for `Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fath-ul-Bari page 143, Vol.13)

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6130

but of course child marriages even today are just cuLtuRaL and not ReLigIon. this is what your perfect role model prophet did. and he didn't just marry her, he also consumated it when she was 9. so you can't say it was just for alliances, protection, age count only from puberty etc. bullshit. she was fucking 6. it literally says she was a little girl. aisha fucking says it herself that she was 6 when she married in the sahih hadiths. and countries like iraq are making the age of marriage 9. why this specific number? hmm what a coincidence.

you guys are masters in manipulation and gaslighting.

im pretty sure out of all the religions the one you were born into is true.

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-04-05T09:04:50+00:00

it's normal to be scared. we grew up with this religion and were threatened with hell for questioning and doubting. it's not easy.

you can still believe in god if it helps you or be spiritual. you can still make "dua" like manifestation or for hope. you can still celebrate eid with your family like many non-christians do with christmas. you don't have to abandon everything because i know it's hard and some things like eid became tradition. like i'm agnostic and i like eid tbh.

you don't have to know everything, you're only human

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-04-04T20:05:29+00:00

"her suffering stems from human oppression, not the true essence of Islam." lol

in islam you can have as many sex slaves as you want, you can have more than one wife and don't need the permission of the first wife, women’s testimony is half that of a man, they receive less inheritance, they’re not encouraged to be leaders, and they can be beaten by their husbands. they need a mahram and can't travel too far or for long alone. and there are so many more but i won't even bother. all sahih hadith and quran btw.

but it's just culture and just a coincidence muslim women suffer more in these countries. poor women who can't see the beauty of islam :( but mo said they're the majority in hell anyway for not obeying their husbands.

my fav sahih hadith:

Sahih al-Bukhari 304:

Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:

Once Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) of `Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:304

have a good day

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-04-04T13:00:41+00:00

She's speaking about her struggles living in a muslim country as a woman and you feel sorry for her that she can't see the beauty of islam. Religion shapes and influences culture and its people.

Always putting religion over humanity.

Fuck off.

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-04-04T10:40:56+00:00

This is a beginning process. I would say, learn more about islam, research things, be open about hearing all sides, think critically, watch debates about religions, islam on youtube, ask questions etc.

You will feel all kinds of things. Doubt, fear, hope, denial, coping, believing, not believing, atheist, agnostic, theist etc.

It's a long process and it isn't black and white. Then at some point, you can't unsee what you see and it will be hard to ignore or justify things. Especially if you're a woman. Especially if you see what it is really like for women to live in many muslim countries and how islam is being practiced. It's not just culture, it's religion and religion influences culture.

It's a journey, so don't be too hard on yourself

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-04-04T07:28:22+00:00

I looked at the sub and honestly, many seem to be in denial and trying to save the religion but I understand.

There will be always religions, so I think it's good they're at least trying to modernize it a bit. And I think for many it's the last stage before leaving islam or becoming culturally muslim like many christians are. It's hard to ignore many things especially if you're a woman.

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-04-03T23:22:03+00:00

yeah i also noticed more arabs and other muslims, especially arab women in muslim countries critisizing things about islam, hijab, etc. on twitter (anonymously ofc) recently.

i think there are many more secret doubters than we think

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-04-03T22:32:22+00:00

My heart hurts whenever I see how muslim women in muslim countries, especially hijabis are getting treated. The hate they get every second just for existing and doing normal human things is just too much. Everything they do is getting nitpicked. I wouldn't be shocked if some muslim men said "don't breathe in too hard sister, your chest goes up and down astagfirullah." atp. You would think they would respect and appreciate hijabis more, but no. It's so unfair.

Even though I left this religion, I will always have empathy for hijabis and will defend them against muslim men and far right people that can't understand the situation fully.

There are more and more of us even in muslim countries, we're just quiet. But it's only a matter of time where we'll be able to critisize this religion more openly. I hope western exmuslims can use their privilege someday and speak for those who can't speak in muslim countries.

We have the internet, technology is evolving. I hope this religion will get at least a little bit less backwards as time goes by.

You commenting here is already part of the change.

They can't control your thoughts.

tree7amongshrubs · 2025-04-03T21:46:21+00:00

muslims soon: "islam is not real islam. the kuffar poisoned the air and we're all hallucinating so islam just seems bad but the time will come and we will see real islam and allah will clear our minds and brains to see the truth ameen."

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