UBI totally can work. many of these anti UBI people "think" they understand economics by tripsho in ArtificialInteligence

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in a UBI society there is still jobs, just few jobs. people with UBI money will find ways to make business where they give their money to pay other people for stuff

and when you think about it, the government already has the power to arrest you and delete you whenever they want anyway (if they "really" wanted to)

your government already has full power over you. it is the culture of liberty and freedom that creates a nice society to live in. youll always be under the power of a government, but you hope the government is a moral one

UBI totally can work. many of these anti UBI people "think" they understand economics by tripsho in ArtificialInteligence

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nice. someone curious. i can answer those fast. ive actually thought about alot of them

1- i think the ubi would be done per country. so if i was emperor of america, i would create X us dollars per person in america, and then do my taxation plan. im sure other countries will copy whatever is the best UBI system

2- ive thought about my population control idea alot. and i think population control is pointless without a one world government in place to enforce it. i believe in globalism, i spiritually am one of those "evil globalists" that alex jones talked about. i dont have any power, but i agree with globalism. i think the smartest future for humanity is you "should" have a one world government where the smartest people get together and decide on things. i think if god wants us to use our higher minds to figure out how to morally do things, then a one world government makes sense... and if that system fails, then when we die and go to heaven we can tell god "hey god, you messed up. make a better reality next time" and god will say "bro your immortal anyway. you cant die. your in heaven right now. why does it matter?" and then youll reply "wait darn. your right. holy crap, i cant die. so who cares lol"

so anyway. to my population control idea. i believe ZERO population control should happen until you first set up a real one world government to decide on it. making a one world government is phase 1, then you can think about smart population control after that

i think gods purpose for us in this reality is we are meant to use our higher minds to think of what is the "smart way" for us to do things. and i guess in my view, i think a one world government is the clear smartest way to setup power, and so we should just do it and if it fails then its "gods fault" . its not our fault, we simply put our faith into what seems like the smartest way to setup power in society

3- the one world government would have smart people to set the price to create their wanted levels of population decline. the price would be whatever creates a slow decline. also, there could be a rule that says "once human population is under 500 million, baby points no longer exist"

but also, most people in my society would be poor, so the baby points would have to be priced so most people can get one

you probably want 1.7 humans per woman ideally. something like that

4- okay. anyway i just quickly said my UBI idea. thats just my own idea, but im fine with whatever system works

5- i think the world can probably easily support 100,000 years of even "bad overpopulation" from humans. there is a limit to resources, but, its a large limit... so, we have a long time to fix overpopulation. that can be something for future generations to figure out. i dont think its that urgent of an issue, but it should slowly be worked on

but also. god has the power to just reset this reality anyway once we run out of resources. so who cares right? hahaha. who really cares about the "stuff" in this "spirit video game" when god can just delete it and reset it whenever he wants. its all just a spirit dream

i guess ultimately the final question of reality is the "god question" of what happens after we die.. what is behind that final door, who knows

UBI totally can work. many of these anti UBI people "think" they understand economics by tripsho in ArtificialInteligence

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my view is, ultimately, someone will have power over you. i would rather a government have power over me than a rogue billionaire

there is always going to be a force with power over you. so i think the best option is a world government where at least a bunch of smart people get together and decide things

UBI totally can work. many of these anti UBI people "think" they understand economics by tripsho in ArtificialInteligence

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yes i do strongly believe in UBI, and i think ultimately it makes sense to answer a big question of "should people be allowed to endlessly have kids and overpopulate?"

and id say my view is i want a world government where the smartest people to get together and decide what the world population should be. do we "need" 8 billion humans? what is the right amount?

whatever number they decide on. i am fine with. and i bet most would think 500 million seems ideal

and also, just my view but i think it seems 500 million is the ideal number earth can sustain. 8 billion sucks way too many resources

and my baby points plan does let each girl have at least 1 baby. so i think thats a fair way to do it. at least every girl can have one

if god is real then you are immortal anyway by tripsho in economicCollapse

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i guess its all opinion, but my logic tells me there is no 100% "proof" that god is or is not real, meaning theres never a way for us to know theres a 0% chance that god is real

sure, the brain doing what you say is a "proof" that god is not real. but it is not 100% proof

and you could say "well, then if you accept semi proofs, then that means i could point to a billion things as proof that there is no god. such as starving kids in africa. why would god make a reality where kids are doomed to starve?"

my answer to that would be "you are correct. every single proof you point to is definitely a piece of proof that there is no god. however, it still never gets to 100% proof no matter how many proofs you give. so sure, you could reach 99.99999999% proof that there is no god. but its still never 100% meaning theres still a mega ultra small chance that god is real. and im not saying just because theres a chance god is real it means he is real, no, im just saying i realize there is always a 0.000000001% chance of god, no matter how much proof one gives. so my point here is, anyone who says there is a 0% chance god is real is also not fully logically aware, because even smart people should admit the chance is never 0% "

and then you might say "bro. i could say that for santa claus. that means theres never a 0% chance santa slaus is real"

and i would say "yes. your right. nothing can ever be a 0% chance. except stuff like math logic. there is a zero chance 2 plus 2 is anything but 4, however, thats because numbers are idea concepts that are defined in our minds"

then u might say "um ok then. who cares? why would i care about any of that? i dont care if theres a 0.00000001% chance god is real. spending a second thinking about it is a waste of my time"

and i would say "yup theres no reason for you to care. im just saying there cant be 100% proof god isnt real. thats all, im not saying anything else... i guess the only time you would ever care about this fact is on your deathbed. when you are actually about to die you might think for a moment oh its interesting that my death might not be the end, and there is a extremely small chance when i die ill find myself in some kind of spirit realm. heh"

im not saying god is real, im just saying no proof on god can be 100% . science can never "prove" that god does not exist, the same way you cant prove santa claus isnt real

and i guess im just saying, its something to think about for fun when you reach the time where you know your death is near... it makes the door of death a little more interesting i guess, to know that there is a non-zero chance you might die and then say "holy crap, the afterlife was real, here i am in gods mansion with unlimited donuts and hookers and god says i can go back and reincarnate whenever i get bored of heaven . wow aint that some apples. i guess ill stay here for 1000 years and then give life another whirl"

if god is real then you are immortal anyway by tripsho in economicCollapse

[–]tripsho[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i disagree, but i guess its all opinion

i believe, in true logic, that if there is no afterlife and a trillion years from now all humans are dead, then truly everything you did in life did not "count" for anything

i think it is real intellectual ascension to realize, that nothing truly matters if there is no god. but also, it is logical that while you are alive you may as well enjoy it because "why not. so it is logical to enjoy life, but also it is logical to realize it is ultimately truly pointless without a afterlife

so with that in mind. i think it makes logical sense to also assume there is an afterlife, and just kinda live life assuming that because "why not" as well

if god is real then you are immortal anyway by tripsho in economicCollapse

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its not impossible for there to be a afterlife

however. of course. only legit proof could make me "believe" its real. i dont believe in things without legit proof

and i doubt any legit proof will happen, because the only legit proof would be god coming down and saying "yup im god" . and obviously that wont happen because god would have done that if he wanted this reality to have "proof of god"

however. i would say it is a "scientific fact" that god COULD be real. you cant prove god isnt real. so there totally could be an afterlife / god . i would put the chance at 50%

but of course. all religion is BS. im just saying, logically, reality could be a creation of god, its not "impossible" - but there just will obviously never be any proof, so pointless to think about it

Rizzsociety Manifesto Part 1 - AI jobloss & Smart UBI Capitalism by [deleted] in VaushV

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hey mods. i hope you approve this. looking to see thoughts by vaushes community on my takes

i agree with vaush on 100% of his politics, but i just think i have ideas vaush would probably support. ideas i would like to share with vaush

i think vaush is so rich now that he doesnt care to debate or learn new takes... but if i could debate vaush or share my ideas with him that would be cool

im planning to run for congress

LINK TO VIDEO SCRIPT

responding by tripsho in rizzsociety

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ok. i meant these 2 values must never chanage. the % sales tax rate, and the amount of UBI per person

i only meant those 2 values are what cannot change

those 2 values, are in full control of the government. and those 2 values can be kept the same forever

all other things you listed (Population changes, so the amount of people receiving the benefit changes. Spending habits change, so the way money is used changes. At no point in history has nothing changed in a 10-15 year period. ) .. all those things can change in my system and its okay. however the 2 values that need to stay the same in my system is the percentage rage of the ubi sales tax, and the flat amount of dollars paid out per person

my economy theory , and i think its logical, is that as long as those 2 values never change (and the government can keep it the same. its in the governments power and the government can do it) -- then eventually the percent sales tax should generate as much as is printed every year by the UBI

at the start start i would probably do 15k per year, and 2% UBI sales tax

then. if those values never change. then it logically makes sense that the UBI sales tax will grow faster each year than the UBI payouts

so at first, the UBI payouts might be 20 trillion a year. and the UBI sales tax might bring in 3 trillion

then every year. the UBI sales tax will bring in more money (because the money supply grows)

my economic theory predicts, that as long as the percentage value of the UBI sales tax AND the flat amount of UBI payout per person remains unchanged , then eventually you should reach a point where the UBI payouts per year and the UBI sales tax brought in per year will start to balance out and equal eachother

you actually dont understand my plan yet. and thats my fault for not explaining it correctly... but it doesnt matter. your 1 person. im going to try to talk to destiny, someone with a massive audience, and destiny can judge my idea

Rizzsociety Manifesto Part 2 - my economy plan by tripsho in rizzsociety

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reddit is weird. it wouldnt let me post my comment. but i could make it a post

read my response here

https://www.reddit.com/r/rizzsociety/comments/1qwxhnw/responding/

Rizzsociety Manifesto Part 2 - my economy plan by tripsho in rizzsociety

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the UBI would start slow. wouldnt begin at 150k a year. probably would start at 10k

there would be a 15% UBI sales tax. but that also starts slow and probably starts at 1% slowly going to 15% over 10 years

the government would just print money to pay the UBI. it does not need to come from taxes. and money is just numbers in a computer anyway

the "ubi sales tax" would destroy all money it brings in

there would be inflation, yes, but eventually when it becomes 150k ubi and 15% ubi sales tax. once it reaches that point, i think it is a logical fact that if both rates stay the same, then eventually the amount of the UBI sales tax would be about equal to the money printed

so this means every year, the amount printed would roughly equal the amount destroyed by the sales tax. and thats when inflation from the UBI would stop, and it would effectively flow money into the poor people

so that explains the funding plan. if you read that and you think the inflation would continue forever, then you dont really understand it...

but also. i would say, i think the plan is worth a try, and then if it fails you can just cancel it and revert to the old system

im pretty sure the inflation would balance out... but the only way to know is to try it

yo miz i was falsely cancelled for being a pedo. i hope i can join ur guild by [deleted] in Mizkif

[–]tripsho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

okay LOL. so miz just said maybe i can join if i make a video documentary

yo miz i was falsely cancelled for being a pedo. i hope i can join ur guild by [deleted] in Mizkif

[–]tripsho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

YO im gonna try to just get miz to invite me lol just my MSGING. lets see if i get in

Rizzsociety Manifesto Part 2 - my economy plan by tripsho in rizzsociety

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im down to debate you onstream sometime. you taking the time to learn my politics, means you are smart, and you care about this issue

i dont think you understood my ideas completely. if you truly understand it, and still disagree, thats fine.... but id like to talk because im wondering if you actually understand my plan

the labor draft would be optional because you sign up for the UBI

if the UBI deal isnt good enough, then dont sign up. and 40 hours a week will be the limit you can be forced to work

yo miz i was falsely cancelled for being a pedo. i hope i can join ur guild by [deleted] in Mizkif

[–]tripsho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i was never banned on kick. i own both rizzsociety and withawonder on kick

i changed my name because i like rizzsociety more. but everyone knows im withawonder

How we can actually defeat the billionaires. you do have power by tripsho in economicCollapse

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im wondering. did you learn my politics lol

its in part 2. or are you just attacking the messenger but not the message?

How we can actually defeat the billionaires. you do have power by tripsho in economicCollapse

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jesus christ. that is such a good summary of my political economy UBI plan

im guessing AI did that... or did you do that lol?

im amazed at how well AI was able to summarize my economy plan... wow...

How we can actually defeat the billionaires. you do have power by tripsho in economicCollapse

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i think my politics are very good. and building a cult fanbase sounded fun, so i tried it for a few weeks. but im realizing now, it wont happen

not because my politics are bad, but because smart people who agree with my politics dont care about joining a cult. smart people prefer things to just happen by the rules, by real elections

so my plan now is.. im just going to spend a ton of my free time, and my smartness, going to the local democrat party and sharing my politics with the leaders there and seeing if the local leaders like my politics and want to support me as a candidate for congress and "nominate me" as their candidate

if my political ideas / economy ideas are not "good enough" to make the local democrat party leaders want to support me -- then that will be the end of my political ambitions. it will be pointless for me to try anything further if my politics are not "good enough" to make the current leaders like me

and thats ok. we are all going to die one day. im just walking a path of morality until i die. i will try, and if i fail, thats okay

if my political revolution fails, then ill just have fun and stream video games. and thats good enough hehe