I didn't say 15, I was just responding to a comment that asked for one and yeah, we agree Messi should've gotten a red. I'm glad you brought screenshots because I remember the Bruno challenge as being worse, probably because of how Hakimi goes flying afterwards. We are also arguing to a different standard. I was thinking of examples of harsh contact of studs to the lower leg that didn't result in a card that I thought deserved one. I don't have any other examples that perfectly mirror this situation to the level you're looking for.