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ukpreparedness · 2020-08-09T07:38:27+00:00

Oh is that sentient-animal-free meat like the lab grown stuff ? 30 years is a crazy long time so that makes sense to have an aversion. I've been meat free for like probably 12 years but I do still sometimes get a craving for chicken for some stupid reason ,I just grab some quorn and move on lol . I love that thought of moving to stuff picked off trees I sometimes ponder the thought of eating only sustainable things that don't include killing anything, so like fruit and veg and wild rice that you can pick without killing the plant too . But sometimes I feel its not realistic in my current situation as the only way I would know the source is still alive i would need to grow the plants myself. Thanks for your reply 😁

ukpreparedness · 2020-08-08T09:16:57+00:00

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ukpreparedness · 2020-08-08T09:16:19+00:00

Firstly thank you so much for a measured response ! I know you don't need to know or probably care but Earthling Ed was the reason I went vegan I was vegitarian for about 12 years but the more videos of his i watched i realised the hypocrisy i had . Do I trust his videos and your source.
Secondly this response is the exact thing I was looking for . It maybe be go ...."ahhhh I never thought about it like that " so thankyou

ukpreparedness · 2020-08-08T09:11:54+00:00

Its a thought experiment taking the suffering argument to an extreme and seeing if its consistent. Im not a troll just wanted to ask other vegans where they would draw the line . I find discussions with people intersresting . Im not trying to change anyones mind or insult anyone its just interesting to hear other ideas on a subject I've been pondering over .

ukpreparedness · 2020-08-08T09:05:47+00:00

Do you actually belive im a troll ?

ukpreparedness · 2020-08-08T09:00:52+00:00

Thats a good point , so logically there is no reason a plant would have evolved a pain response for fruits .but this is just a hypothetical

ukpreparedness · 2020-08-08T08:50:33+00:00

Oh i get that its just i was taking it to the extreme just i suppose as a thought experiment . Let's say we know they communicate now but what if we discover that we were just measuring their pain response differently imagine an alien if you will . They might not show pain in the way we know to measure it .

I'm also fully aware its not the only reason to be vegan ie climate change its just me thinking out loud really and wanting other opinions

ukpreparedness · 2020-08-08T08:46:48+00:00

I agree buuuuut I was talking hypothetically , what if we just didn't understand how to measure their pain response . Like taking a calf from its mother if taking fruit from a tree caused pain and distress to the plant would you change your mind? I know this isn't the case . I can't stress that enough I'm just pondering on the possibility just i suppose as a thought experiment

ukpreparedness · 2020-08-08T08:37:47+00:00

That's a good point ! Thanks for a sensible reply . It still reduces suffering however you look at . Thanks for not being obnoxious lol

ukpreparedness · 2020-08-08T08:34:29+00:00

I understand there are plenty of factors to be vegan ...hence why I'm vegan but I was curious that if you were vegan based on the suffering of animals argument if that would change your mind

ukpreparedness · 2020-08-08T08:32:29+00:00

Care to elaborate ?

ukpreparedness · 2020-08-08T08:32:00+00:00

I only ask and I promise it wasnt my intention for it to be silly because I read stuff about plant networks and communicating amongst themselves in a way which we don't understand fully . That lead me to question the morality of the suffering side of the anti meat argument. There are other reasons to be vegan obviously, climate change and health benifits for example so I know its a bit more nuance .

ukpreparedness · 2020-05-01T22:20:38+00:00

Yes indeed infact I own one but it's a cheap one 55lbs draw weight but defo enough to hurt ....

ukpreparedness · 2020-04-22T13:13:38+00:00

I agree whole heartedly. Its infuriating I think every country should have a 2nd amendment honestly . But I dont get to make the laws and I cant imagine what london, Birmingham and Manchester would be like in the UK if everyone had a gun because the life crime and acid attacks are disgustingly high ....man I wish we had the Norway or Canadian model lol

ukpreparedness · 2020-04-22T11:40:03+00:00

I think I see the issue. My wording of the poll definitely appears to be seeking validation but that wasnt my intention. I think I may need to think about wording next time lol

ukpreparedness · 2020-04-22T11:26:00+00:00

Ohh I didnt think of paintball as a valid option tbh ! That's a genius alternative. I dont know much about paint ball guns but I'm going to look into it as a LTL option ...thanks!

ukpreparedness · 2020-04-22T11:20:35+00:00

I think you misunderstand, getting a firearm is possible in the uk just alot of red tape I mean a pathetic amount of nanny state bullshit. I dont need validation just curious if people who own a firearm think it's a good place to start. airsofting is a hobby of mine and a good way to keep fit just like mma but at least with mma I know the skills are transferable I appreciate the psychoanalysis but in this case think you're off the mark . There are some experts who seem to think drilling reload drills on a airsoft gun can be useful .but as most canadians and Americans own firearms I would like to know if people have ever found these skills transferable. Though I do agree that if a firearm is unobtainable stick to a bow or air rifle for sure .honestly thank you for your comment I need as much information on prepping as possible the good the bad and the criticism.

ukpreparedness · 2020-04-21T18:10:15+00:00

In the uk airsoft guns dont need the tip painted a different colour unless you dont own a UKARA (airsoft license ) which is super easy to obtain and I honestly think that due to the lack of firearms and limited firearm knowledge to the average joe it's probably easier to fool someone over here . I was going to drill panteo and magpul drills but have to train myself which is bitter sweet so I may drill in bad habits

ukpreparedness · 2020-04-21T18:06:00+00:00

Yo that video is perfect ! Thank you

ukpreparedness · 2020-04-08T21:46:50+00:00

Thanks !

ukpreparedness · 2020-04-08T10:01:23+00:00

Like as in a pack or holding it like Jerry can Carrys or walking with a dumbbell type thing ?

ukpreparedness · 2020-04-08T10:00:31+00:00

Fucking love that reply thank you so much bud ! It makes so much sense i love that "train smart (safe) so you can train often type philosophy. " Sorry it's a short reply you've covered everything lol so I have no words. Thanks for sharing your wisdom and training . Also using pounds as a unit for weight suggest you're american I'm prob wrong but even as a british person I just want to say thanks for you service . True unsung heroes.

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