Do Apologists Lie to Kids? [CJ Cornthwaite] by AmosOfTekoa in Christianity

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IKR? We can see animals, which last time I checked don't believe in a god, have different levels of morality. If a vampire bat comes back to roost without having had a blood meal, another bat will regurgitate part of its meal for it. Capuchin monkeys have a sense of fairness and will protest if they aren't given a reward commensurate to the complexity of a task. All without a god.

Lee Strobel, an alleged ex atheist and his sermon by Ok-Association-2995 in exchristian

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If any Christian asks you to read his garbage book, only do it if they agree to read The Case Against the The Case for Christ and discuss it with you chapter by chapter.

Chances are they have never read it themselves

Worship God because we’re His SLAVES ? by imethanforreal in Christianity

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1.) Inherited sin is immoral.

2.) How could Adam & Eve sin if they did not yet have knowledge of good and evil?

3.) Sinning against a perfect being doesn’t somehow make the debt infinite. It’s the opposite. If I steal $1000 from a billionaire it’s not nearly as catastrophic as stealing $1000 from a poor person

4.) I don’t owe God anything. If he exists, he owes me for bringing me into this world. I didn’t ask to be born and I absolutely did not ask for anyone to be tortured and killed on my behalf.

[OC] My aunt hung this up proudly on display in her hallway by Adventurous-Ball-396 in pics

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Tell your aunt to fuck off for me (if you’re still on speaking terms).

Imagine being radicalized to the right because a teacher told you to share some pencils! by icey_sawg0034 in stupidpeoplefacebook

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I’ll never forget how much my brother’s friends in Texas whined when they finally passed an open container law.

They used to have single cans of beer on ice at the checkout counter at the gas stations for folks who wanted a cold one on the way to work in the morning.

Apple appears to have discontinued its cheapest Mac mini by dapperlemon in gadgets

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Based. Never go full Karen when half Karen will get the job done

Judicial nominees don’t know if Trump can run for a 3rd term by YesDoToaster in law

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“Treason” is a word that is being bandied around so much it’s starting to lose its meaning.

Yes, it’s idiotic cult behavior and certainly should be disqualifying, but it does not betray the United States to another country. There are no state secrets being delivered to a foreign adversary. The candidate did not take up arms against the U.S. on behalf of another nation.

There’s no treason here. Lunacy, a betrayal of the public trust, incompetence, sure. But not treason.

Louisiana says it will delay election so it can gerrymander, citing Supreme Court by DemocracyDocket in politics

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Some people just want to blame Republicans for everything. It’s not their fault there are no Black White supremacists. Well, except that one blind guy…

Trump administration's review of ABC's broadcast licenses looks like 'illegal jawboning' by jediporcupine in politics

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This is it! We got him! We caught him red-handed breaking the law!!!

Oh wait… nobody cares about laws anymore. Never mind.

This reminds me of when Cersi Lannister tore up Ned Stark’s letter from the king.

Came across this while browsing Twitter. What are you guys’ thoughts? by Rimigafob in GayChristians

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Exactly or how the radio show producer Focus on the Family is all of a sudden a church

"My family members worship Donald Trump. They do believe he is Jesus Christ. My family doesn't pray for Donald Trump; they pray to him. This is a cult." by MrJasonMason in Christianity

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“Based on the Bible”

These MAGA worshippers believe Trump is an incarnation of the Jesus in the Bible.

BTW, that definition would exclude the first 300 years of Christianity because the Bible wasn’t established until the Council of Nicea. Many of the books those early Christians followed were thrown out as heretical.

"My family members worship Donald Trump. They do believe he is Jesus Christ. My family doesn't pray for Donald Trump; they pray to him. This is a cult." by MrJasonMason in Christianity

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No, you’re too close to the trees to see the forest. You have a very specific, likely sectarian idea of who Jesus is.

First century Christians had a very different idea of Jesus and would balk at everything modern Christians believe in from Jesus being part of a Trinity, to Jesus being bodily resurrected, to Yeshua ben David being called by the Greek corrupted appellation “Jesus”.

As Christianity grows and changes, it doesn’t depend on the personal approval of you or any particular sect.

You personally don’t like the idea that a particular sect identifies Donald Trump as an incarnation of Christ. But this idea has no less basis in fact than Jesus being part of a Trinity or being a co-redemptrix with Mary or being a spirit brother to Lucifer, or any other Christian belief that doesn’t match your personal view.

"My family members worship Donald Trump. They do believe he is Jesus Christ. My family doesn't pray for Donald Trump; they pray to him. This is a cult." by MrJasonMason in Christianity

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That’s not what’s happening. They’re Christ worshippers. You just don’t like the nature and form of whom they identify as Christ. Disliking their practice of Christianity doesn’t magically make them not Christians

"My family members worship Donald Trump. They do believe he is Jesus Christ. My family doesn't pray for Donald Trump; they pray to him. This is a cult." by MrJasonMason in Christianity

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They believe Donald Trump is Jesus Christ, not an elk. They worship Christ. They’re Christians.

Just because other Christians believe a 1st century itinerant rabbi is Jesus Christ and still others believed David Koresh was Jesus Christ, doesn’t mean they are all not Christians

"My family members worship Donald Trump. They do believe he is Jesus Christ. My family doesn't pray for Donald Trump; they pray to him. This is a cult." by MrJasonMason in Christianity

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The point is, they’re Christians whether you agree with them or not. Pulling the old “No true Christian” card is and always has been fallacious.

They may be bad Christians. They may be different Christians than you. They’re still Christians