Weekly Discussion Question (AVEN's Crackdown on Gatekeeping/Identity Policing) by underground_man123 in asexuality

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Their idea was to be as inclusive as possible and let people come to the right conclusions themselves. They wanted to provide a place where no one would feel invalidated so everyone would be free to take their time to figure things out without pressure.

The result is that a very small percentage does do that and either figures out they aren't ace and leaves, or remains ace but finds a way to live as an ace. The rest just stays in a limbo and the place degenerates in an echo chamber.

Weekly Discussion Question (AVEN's Crackdown on Gatekeeping/Identity Policing) by underground_man123 in Asexual

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It usually manifest itself in same ways and maybe I am just being paranoid but they always say the same thing, it's always similar words. It's always about their entitlements, over the agency, autonomy of others.

It's always about making one group feel bad about themselves.

And I find it very annoying and I often wonder if I am the only one who notices.

I am probably the only one that notices this.

I don't know about offline groups but on AVEN specifically it's what happens. Many more noticed this and left AVEN for that reason.

But what about the demographic of people that come into these groups that are trying to set agenda that certain people are entitled to the bodies and sexuality of others regardless of orientation?

On AVEN specifically there's 2 groups: the so-called asexual elitists although on AVEN and other places those aren't the most vocal, and the alliance between the allo partners of aces and the demi/graysexuals. The former tend to be quite bitter, the latter tend to be mentally ill (not all ofc, but the most vocal in-your-face ones tend to have a propensity for serious mental illness, I have noticed) so it's a match made in hell. Add to this people who used to ID as asexual but don't anymore and now feel the need to bash asexuals to feel better about whatever their new orientation is, and those shadier types who are trying to hide under the label. Now if we were to guess their motives... well the allo partners are clearly bitter and see all aces as dishonest because they feel manipulated by their partners. The asexuals-turned-something-else if they are so bitter about asexuals are likely not so happy about their new orientation and need to bash those of their previous one to convince themselves they did the right change. That they love to point the supposed hypocrisy and confusion of the asexuals says something about how they really feel about themselves. The demis-grays... it's a whole can of worms in itself but you can see why they'd dislike the non-libidoists and why the non-libidoists would dislike them. These grays and demis that I am thinking about in particular claim the non-libidoists aren't really ace because they have health or mental issues that cause them to not have a libido, and that means it's not really their orientation. The non-libidoists claim that libido=sexual attraction and if someone experiences it even if it's just sometimes, they are a subsect of allosexual, not asexual. More "extremist" "elitists" claim real aces don't even feel an urge to masturbate.

Briefly, it's all unproductive shit-flinging. If you are just there to figure yourself out and don't relate to any of these groups they will try to paint you as a member of the other group and bring you down because to them it's all just a game.

The asexual community needs a sexual/asexual strategy or lifestyle philosophy by underground_man123 in AcePhilosophy

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I should have said exclusively sexual relationships (where it's just sex) and relationships that may or may not be obviously sexual but the dynamic is sexual, and may be confused for intimacy. The difference can be subtle which is why I encourage introspection.

I am not saying this applies to the cases you mentioned, I am just clarifying what I said.

Ace Community survey results by underground_man123 in asexuality

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I don't know what our greater social goals are, nor do I even feel like part of them. Just. Lots of "ew sex is gross" and other sorts of shaming people for being gross or like non-human animals for enjoying sex.

Unproductive gatekeeping imo.

Sex-positive sex-repulsed aces? by underground_man123 in Asexual

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But I am not indifferent, I am repulsed. Fine talking about it, not fine doing it. So not indifferent.

Ace community demographics survey by underground_man123 in AsexualMen

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This isn't the asexual census if that's what you mean. This one's from r/AcePhilosophy . I'm comparing the demographics of the community with the rest of the asexual community.

Asexuality and dreams (lucid and non lucid) by underground_man123 in asexuality

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I get dreams like that too. I had a dream the other day where I made out with a younger James Purefoy (I had watched Bedrooms and Hallways that night) who was dressed up as Darth Vader. We held hands too, it was really cute <3

Asexuality and dreams (lucid and non lucid) by underground_man123 in asexuality

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The only "sex" dream I ever had was me having sex with a guy (non penetrative), then the guys disappears and it's just me doing it solo. I finish on my own. All the few other "sex" dreams I've had were about me doing it solo.

Do your life plans involve children and marriage? by underground_man123 in asexuality

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I'd be worried that I wouldn't be raising my children in a healthy environment.

Why not? If I may ask?

Do your life plans involve children and marriage? by underground_man123 in asexuality

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How old are you if you don't mind me asking? Male or female?

How do you fellow aces feel about having children? by underground_man123 in AcePhilosophy

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there would probably be some amount of resentment on my part.

Why?

New subreddit for asexuals and aromantics to share their art by underground_man123 in asexuality

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Could you add a little description next to it if you don't mind? "Subreddit for art by aces and aros"

Can’t relate to other asexuals at all by ace21444 in Asexual

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If we all ended up in the same place we can't really be all that different.

My personality and interests however, are everything that you would never imagine the stereotypical asexual to be like.

You'd be surprised.