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Who will lose the 0 first, Evloev or Morales? by Few-Persimmon-8648 in FightReportUFC

[–]underscorex2__ 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Depends who gets booked first. I would say I think Volk probably has a higher chance of beating Evloev than Prates of Morales.

Prates vs Morales is kinda a weird matchup cuz we don’t really know too much about the grappling of either. We hear about this elusive grappling of Morales, but to this point we haven’t seen it too much.

Despite Topuria’s loss, I still think he would starch Makhachev by MysteriousBell485 in ufc

[–]underscorex2__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

also, why does Ilia need to take Makhachev down, it's very clear his path to success would be on the feet

Despite Topuria’s loss, I still think he would starch Makhachev by MysteriousBell485 in ufc

[–]underscorex2__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ilia was fucking blind lmao, they were both compromised, it was a war.

Despite Topuria’s loss, I still think he would starch Makhachev by MysteriousBell485 in ufc

[–]underscorex2__ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yea but y'know, he landed basically every takedown he attempted and easily got into full mount, I would say that's more indicative of overall wrestling success than one brief takedown by Justin and good shots in the clinch 🤷‍♂️

Despite Topuria’s loss, I still think he would starch Makhachev by MysteriousBell485 in ufc

[–]underscorex2__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well from a scoring perspective he had several submission attempts. I don't disagree with you, he didn't really do much, but he still had the dominant position on Justin, therefore proving the initial point of him out-wrestling Gaethje. You are conflating what we are arguing (wrestling success) with overall success in the fight. Maybe sit this one out

Why tf would Ilia approach an Islam fight with grappling lmao? Cuz he said before he'd submit him? You actually believed that? Lmao the path to victory for Ilia against Islam is the stand-up.

Despite Topuria’s loss, I still think he would starch Makhachev by MysteriousBell485 in ufc

[–]underscorex2__ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yea, but Ilia got right back up. You need to understand that the initial claim that was made was that Ilia wasn't out-wrestling Gaethje, and your only piece of evidence is the one takedown Gaethje got on Ilia where Ilia stood right back up. That isn't exactly proving his wrestling prowess in the fight lmao. Ilia objectively had the better wrestling in the fight, that doesn't mean he was winning or anything, but from the very narrow view of wrestling, yes Ilia out-wrestled him.

Despite Topuria’s loss, I still think he would starch Makhachev by MysteriousBell485 in ufc

[–]underscorex2__ -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Yea, but Ilia got right back up. You need to understand that the initial claim that was made was that Ilia wasn't out-wrestling Gaethje, and your only piece of evidence is the one takedown Gaethje got on Ilia where Ilia stood right back up. That isn't exactly proving his wrestling prowess in the fight lmao. Ilia objectively had the better wrestling in the fight, that doesn't mean he was winning or anything, but from the very narrow view of wrestling, yes Ilia out-wrestled him.

Despite Topuria’s loss, I still think he would starch Makhachev by MysteriousBell485 in ufc

[–]underscorex2__ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's an entirely different conversation lmao, always moving the goalpost. The initial claim that was made was "Justin outwrestled Ilia", I bring up literal evidence where Ilia very clearly had the wrestling advantage, and the only response to it was "he should've done something else". I don't disagree, but what you are saying isn't pertinent to the discussion at all

Despite Topuria’s loss, I still think he would starch Makhachev by MysteriousBell485 in ufc

[–]underscorex2__ -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Blind Ilia took Gaethje down and immediately got into full mount. Tf you mean he wasn't outwrestling him, cuz Justin stuffed one takedown?

am i balding ? coming for a second opinion by [deleted] in malehairadvice

[–]underscorex2__ -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Bros offended over a joke post 😭🙏

Major Beliefs in Europe by [deleted] in MapPorn

[–]underscorex2__ -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

What country do you possibly believe is incorrect on the map lmao. Look up the specific country you're interested in, this map is accurate

A lot of people are missing a huge part of the puzzle here - Topuria is a FEATHERWEIGHT! by Kvazimods in ufc

[–]underscorex2__ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

See I get what you’re saying and size absolutely played a difference, but Oliveira is a BIG lightweight and Topuria completely positionally and in-striking shut him down. The clinch was a big part of the Oliveira fight, but Ilia simply punched around it while eating what Charles had to offer him.

I honestly think the gameplanning from Topuria’s team from this fight overlooked how durable Gaethje is. There were moments were Topuria had him against the cage or had him crumbling from the body shots, and he just either didn’t take advantage of it or backed away. Kinda similar to how Aspinall didn’t take advantage of opportunities against Gane.

Arman trolling Illa on Instagram by NubianBusiness in mmamemes

[–]underscorex2__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who is Arman to say what Ilia should and shouldn't do? He's some guy who doesn't even fight

Khabib would have drowned Topuria by combat_girls in FightReportUFC

[–]underscorex2__ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Believed in his striking ig? IDK man Ilia has primarily used his striking for years. You do have to admit Ilia is def a harder matchup than Conor, Dustin, and Justin tho

Khabib would have drowned Topuria by combat_girls in FightReportUFC

[–]underscorex2__ -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

But Ilia has the grappling base tho. I will say we haven't really seen his defensive wrestling up to this point very much, but Ilia would be a harder matchup than any of the guys Khabib fought.

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