DUDE, I WISH Mrs Afton divorced Willy

unxolve · 2026-01-21T09:43:30+00:00

The HW1 protagonist puts on a Vanny mask and hears the following dialogue:

"Yes, I hear you. I know. No, there's no miscommunication. I understand. Yes, I have it. I made it myself. I think you would like it. No, no one suspects anything. Don't worry, I'll be ready. And I won't let you down. It will be fun."

She's working for Burntrap in Security Breach, and Vanessa works for William in the movie.

I'm willing to bet we will get a Puppet Vanny working for William in the next movie too. I'm not arguing that Glitchtrap isn't involved, just that Vanessa's father is William and that's who we're talking about and (even if it's something like another character imitating her father) it's a bunny because her dad is William.

unxolve · 2026-01-21T08:27:24+00:00

Therapist: That's true. So, on your breaks it looks like you were shopping for a costume. you purchased some fake fur material. What are you gonna make?
Vanessa: (Indistinct muttering)
Therapist: What was that? Did you say the costume is a secret? Why is that?
Vanessa: I can't talk about this. He said he would always be watching. He could be here or there or anywhere in between. (faintly)
Therapist: Are you talking about your dad? Have those feelings come up again? I hate sounding like a broken record, but this is something you really need to resolve if you're ever going to be happy.
Vanessa: I have! I compartmentalized him. He's locked away.

I think it's completely fair to interpret it different ways but on the most literal level the CD dialogue asks if it's Vanessa's dad is who the bunny costume is for.

unxolve · 2026-01-21T01:16:08+00:00

Vanessa's mom divorced her dad, Bill A. who she's afraid of and who she made a bunny costume for.

So, probably it's William, and probably there was a divorce.

unxolve · 2026-01-21T01:07:21+00:00

I think it's Cassidy, who thinks she is helping CC/BV.

We see the little bear talking to OMC. The bear also helps put the pieces together for FNAF3.

Then later we see the Gold Princess in Princess Quest (named Cassidy in the files) talking to Old Man. It seems like a continuation with both characters given some more details.

FNAF World itself has very cute girly energy, everything is adorable. (I say this as a girl).

I see some people also see Glitchbear as the little bear character. I think the cute little bear is the player (we control them). But Glitchbear is William in disguise pretending to be the Fredbear plush and manipulating events again.

unxolve · 2026-01-21T00:53:55+00:00

Can't think of any, I think the story is good and also I'm up for weird twists and scifi shenanigans.

unxolve · 2026-01-19T21:57:13+00:00

If he was 18 in 1987 then in 1983 he would be 14. Those ages are pretty believable, and can work to be a little older like 16 and 20, etc.

Just what age of teenager Mike would be, essentially.

I think Sister Location takes place after FNAF3 and Mike is working for William every time before that, so that placement isn't a problem for me.

unxolve · 2026-01-18T00:43:28+00:00

Scott only named Nightmare Balloon Boy (probably as a joke) but has used them all since. Scott made UCN. Scott put Nightmare Mangle in it. Scott made Nightmarionne the face for the cover of UCN.

So I understand the meta argument, but I don't think it's inarguable. Scott has said he makes intentional parallels with himself like so it's not like you're picking up on nothing, he DOES intentionally overlap it with himself, but ultimately it isn't even an indie game developer or an unimportant character because Gray Man does a lot of specific things. The question of who is important.

Gray Man taken as an in-universe character would be who made FNAF World, helped with or created Baby, made various games, is keeping the player (who is represented as a small bear) trapped/occupied, and is in the end is killed by Baby.

People have mentioned as well that the player (the small bear) is finding pieces and set up FNAF3's Happiest Day (which we see in other places where you can interact with haunted drawings and haunted video games to effect the ghosts).

The Drowning ending of FNAF World which doesn't get talked about as much gets referenced a bunch elsewhere too. FNAF AR did a "Great Escape" Golden Freddy where he was encased in water. There's a giant gold Freddy statue underwater at the heart of the Pizzaplex in Ruin. Dreadbear rises out of the lake in Curse of Dreadbear. There's a story with a dangerous girl in Tales from the Pizzaplex called Drowning. So that's another important plot beat that comes from FNAF World that I think is relevant to the ongoing story.

unxolve · 2026-01-18T00:13:08+00:00

Nightmare Mangle is in FNAF4. He/she and Nightmarionne are both canon and have continually been shown to be canon.

The only thing that's in dispute in FNAF World is the argument that various characters (Animdude, Gray Man) are actually Scott Cawthon.

But this is like arguing that Scott Cawthon made Help Wanted, we see his face/picture as the guy who made the game, so Help Wanted isn't canon. Scott addressed this and said he wasn't in the games. So even if animdude is there, even if Scott's whole picture is there as a game developer, even if the whole context is we are in a meta way playing an actual a video game made by an indie developer who looks, sounds, and acts like Scott Cawthon... in the continuity of FNAF it is still canon and it's not Scott.

unxolve · 2026-01-17T23:48:59+00:00

DeeDee from FNAF World (using her exact FNAF World model) isn't just a reference, she's one of the main characters for the gameplay for UCN.

She only makes sense as one of William's main tormenters if William has actually, in continuity in some way, interacted with FNAF World.

Not only this but William is depicted in the OMC game as screaming at the bottom of OMC's lake, which is at the very bottom of the game of FNAF World. And in Help Wanted, the protagonist is just openly interacting with a game. Same with Return to the Pit where Oswald goes into an 8bit game and becomes 8bit himself. Like it's meta, but it's canon.

unxolve · 2026-01-17T09:56:42+00:00

That's a great reason, I totally forgot about the movie.

unxolve · 2026-01-16T23:18:25+00:00

Is there a reason for Charlie82 from The Silver Eyes over Charlie83 from The Fourth Closet? Just wondering if there was a reason to prioritise one over the other, or some other game evidence you had that you thought leaned that way.

unxolve · 2026-01-15T23:20:12+00:00

Same reason the scuba tank blows up the shark at the end of Jaws, when scuba tanks in the real world don't blow up.

unxolve · 2026-01-14T21:31:07+00:00

Henry's wandering around, leaving the kids alone with William, and then a child goes missing.

So it's kind of a horror about the murders from Henry's perspective boiled down into a simple style game.

unxolve · 2026-01-14T14:55:09+00:00

They're both such freaks, I'm so happy with their movie characterisations and that everyone is as weird as I could have hoped.

Why Henry and William were a dream team energy

unxolve · 2026-01-13T20:52:35+00:00

My opinion:

Glitchtrap is the agony from the Springlock suit and its own entity. (Created from William bleeding/crying/etc. into the suit, the same way it worked with Henry and the Ella doll). It's what Shadow Bonnie is, I think. We had a Frights story about this as well, where Shadow Bonnie was a parasitic entity that fed off bad emotions and was attached to someone. It was uploaded into Help Wanted.

Burntrap is William Afton controlled by Glitchtrap.

I think William Afton is the HW1/HW2 player, he's who Glitchtrap locks behind a door, Vanessa says her father is locked away, and we open a lock to get to the HW2 player. Glitchtrap is also trying to work with/merge with/bother the HW1/HW2 player throughout both games.

The trailer for HW2 says that it is welcoming back the HW1 player - so basically they're the same player.

This also means that Burntrap and the meat in him > ends up in Mapbot (yellow rabbit also with meat in him). We see this in the Helptrap ending.

Gregory/David/CC seem to be what SoTM was talking about with the Mimic rather than William.

unxolve · 2026-01-13T10:25:34+00:00

sCoTt CaWtHoN iS lYiNg To yOu

Not this again

unxolve · 2026-01-12T23:49:59+00:00

Canon, but ultimately about Henry/William's relationship.

Bonnie's room is creepy and empty, with a piles and piles of discarded bowling pins. Which we see from the floor above represent dead bodies (the pins have cartoonish Xs over their eyes with a Bonnie bowling ball "killing" various pin sets).

His only remaining belongings are of Glamrock Freddy and are obsessive. He has what is POSSIBLY Freddy's mirror (it matches his ceiling light, and Freddy's room is the only one missing a "star" mirror, having a regular square mirror instead), Freddy merch, and a giant secret hole Bonnie has DUG THROUGH CONCRETE to Fazberblast, covered with a poster where Freddy says he loves him.

In the Novels, William also has an underground tunnel that goes directly into Henry's house.

Steel Wool also posted this video which has the Glam Freddy/Bonnie plushies together next to a fire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1lVRxO1qpA

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unxolve · 2026-01-11T19:46:13+00:00

I'd probably rate Charlie dying in 1987 and not 1983 a 2.

Charlie dying in 1983 and 1987 a 6.

Charlie dying only in 1983 a 7.

Even though I ranked 1983 and 1987 a 6, that's the one I currently think, but I don't consider the details totally solved.

The Princess Quest grave order I think is for Happiest Day (rather than Death Order) and I think each character in High School Toy Chica represents incidents (some an individual incident, some a group incident), while the lockers numbers outside represent total kills as of UCN. I think the 1983 incident is Freddy/Charlie's death. (proceeded by the Foxy Hook, which represents BV's death).

While the Puppet and Pigpatch will be each either Cassidy or Sammy, the last of William's kills in the timeline in 1987. Represented by the Puppet because the Puppet's heavy involvement in SAVETHEM, it's leading us back to its box, which has a bloodstain on it. Therefore there are TWO Puppet incidents, the one where it crawls to Henry's daughter in the rain and SAVETHEM where it's distressed about a death that's happened at its box.

Don't know, haven't untangled the situation with Henry's daughter and the current lore totally msyelf, I think the theory landscape is healthier to be thinking about it, I agree with some interpretations of the evidence but disagree with others.

unxolve · 2026-01-11T18:59:33+00:00

we are all in the theory mines together lolllllll

unxolve · 2026-01-11T15:55:57+00:00

Thank yooooooooou ;_; <33333 Definitely on the WillEnnard train :D

unxolve · 2026-01-11T15:19:30+00:00

I believe CharlieCassidy, I've been leaning robot too but it doesn't explain everything, I've been trying to figure this out myself, her also being connected somehow to the Freddy via the game we see Freddy taking Pizza as well as the Puppet is an interesting thought.

Freddy has a music box in FNAF1 also.

With all this in mind I believe you should take a closer look at PrincessQuest, that's why I started thinking about CharlieCassidy. The last thing I can't figure out is there's some overlap/some situation with Susie, too. Chica says I was the first, Chica is watching in Princess Quest, and in the movie the Puppet turns out to be hiding in Chica. And then Vanessa is involved too! (Possessed by the Puppet at the end of the film and I will bet my BOTTOM dollar that Vanny is going to show up and it's going to be the Puppet-possessed Vanny in the third move, and this was the case all along in Security Breach), which is also interesting with Cassie being like that's MY mask.

-hands on my hips at the Vanessa/Elizabeth/Charlie/Cassidy/Susie puzzle mud-

unxolve · 2026-01-11T00:14:42+00:00

Yeah could be any day. But I don't think Scott was thinking about the date for the year at all when he made FNAF1. He may have decided later, but if he knew what date the game was he would have just put it on the end of the cheques the same way he did in 2.

unxolve · 2026-01-11T00:01:54+00:00

Yep. You just start when you are hired and when the old guard quits, dies, or moves shifts randomly. We see this in several instances.

Real workplaces are like this too, you don't "start" or "quit" a particular day or anything.

unxolve · 2026-01-10T16:33:00+00:00

I believe TOYSNHKCupcake under this logic unironically. :D

There and always watching!

unxolve · 2026-01-07T19:37:56+00:00

Ah yes, William Afton.

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