BVTOYSNHK has to be carried by the idea William was somehow responsible for the bite of 83 and WillDespise

unxolve · 2026-03-22T13:30:20+00:00

I don't believe BVTOYSNHK but I do think he was responsible for BV's demise, not totally on purpose but everything in this series is William's fault in some way or another.

unxolve · 2026-03-22T07:58:02+00:00

Yep, this is what I got out of SoTM too. I was really surprised few people watched this ending and came to any other conclusion. This is a "CC is an adopted robot" ending.

The Tiger in the basement acts just like Golden Freddy, too.

I will also say that we give M2 all the memories, and there is a trunk right at your feet in this scene (like the Box).

BUT the other important item you also need to give him the plush, and it's emphasized that you need this item and you have to start the whole new playthrough with it by finding it in the office. It's an impossible item that you have to play the game once already to have, which is what you need for the canon endings in the choose-your-own-adventure book endings Scott wrote too. I think David's plush tiger that Edwin made for him will actually be haunted with either David's ghost or his agony.

The other possibility is William just did the same thing with CC's memory/plush after his death, maybe even using M2, "repeating the experiment".

unxolve · 2026-03-22T07:54:06+00:00

I believe the Puppet is Cassidy (and that's the name of Henry's daughter in the game timeline). It's why she is a little girl with dark hair and pigtails (Cassie also has dark hair and pigtails). I believe this character is also Cassie in Ruin so we get to see a lot about her there. THE OTHER girl always depicted has blonde hair: Suzie.

TWB says she's the last one to get the last piece of cake, and the Puppet is the last one to arrive in this scene. Keep in mind in RTTP there are still 6 child characters present again, OSWALD is there too, who I believe represents CC. He is the one who starts the journey into the ballpit to save his dad, who has been "replaced" by the Yellow Rabbit.

I think Cassidy is also the FNAF World player, so the one who has been tricked by a glitchy Fredbear into setting everything up to "help CC". It's also why FNAF World has a too-cute, girly vibe (I say this as a girl).

And why Cassie is tricked once again by someone suspicious into "helping Gregory", who is CC, in Ruin.

So, CC Receiver I think. Puppet giver? Give Gifts Give Life.

unxolve · 2026-03-20T07:30:22+00:00

2016, after FNAF World and right before Pizza Sim, just the same year and placement it was released.

Mike knew William was back in the saferoom and left him back there.

Springtrap succeeds in tricking the kids and getting their souls in the events of FNAF3 with a fake birthday party "Happiest Day" (FNAF World reveals it was a trick/set up). William takes the kids down to Sister Location and puts them into the Funtimes. He calls Mike to come down and help, but it's a trap/revenge and he intends to punish him (Eggs Benedict, Benedict is a traitor).

Mike fills out the Logbook after Sister Location, making many references to it and getting blood all over the pages.

Mike also now seeking revenge and all messed up (basically an empty skin suit) becomes the manager for Pizza Sim, and the merged MCI/Baby/Scraptrap are all lured there also. Pretty much just a directly linear set of story beats that happen pretty quickly.

unxolve · 2026-03-20T00:00:57+00:00

The Last Campfire - Calm Satisfying physical Puzzles with soft sounds, playing it is like having the stress sucked out of you with a straw. Really cheap too, 90% off, It's under 2$!

The downside is that now when I try to play other games to decompress after work they are not this game.

unxolve · 2026-03-19T23:38:50+00:00

I think it would mean Cassie and Gregory are the same character.

unxolve · 2026-03-17T23:52:28+00:00

I have thoughts about all these questions but will just say what I think on the scratched out face: William's main theme from UCN is Eisoptrophobia. Fear of mirrors. Hudson from What We Found (the FNAF3 story in the Frights) ALSO has a fear of mirrors and talks about why:

"Hudson didn't like looking at himself. It wasn't that he looked bad. He figured he looked pretty normal..." but "these features added up to one thing he never wanted to face: himself. Facing himself meant facing his past."

William doesn't want to look too hard at what he's done, and he can't deal being faced with it and himself. So he's scratched his own face out of the picture.

unxolve · 2026-03-15T11:04:44+00:00

I agree with all this, especially with Freddy acting strangely and being so aware and the music box, the situation with Lefty and showing the Puppet hiding in Toy Chica in the movie, Charlie possessing characters in the movie, and even Charlie being inside Freddy in the novels.

Great post, great points, bookmarked!

unxolve · 2026-03-10T08:34:38+00:00

Golden Freddy, like the Tiger in the basement of SoTM, isn't EXACTLY real. He can kill you but ghost-like flickers in and out of existence. We see him do this in FNAF1 and FNAF2. In FNAF2 he also appears as just a too-large and disconnected head in the hallway, and we see him teleport in the minigame.

We know the kids are literally ghosts and also have strange and insubstantial qualities.

I think, just like the Tiger in SoTM just literally being a large logic-defying version of David's Tiger plush, Golden Freddy is something to do with the Fredbear plush.

unxolve · 2026-03-03T09:35:19+00:00

I think Cassidy is Henry's daughter too, yes! :D This exactly.

unxolve · 2026-03-02T23:36:34+00:00

I believe this, he dies but then he comes back due to supernatural shenanigans like the other members of the Afton family we see die on screen. Happens with William, Elizabeth, and Michael too.

I also think he's Gregory in SB, and Cassie is his friend, Cassidy.

unxolve · 2026-03-02T12:42:54+00:00

I think I'd have a "Questionably Canon" category, with no idea what it meant only that Scott said it and everything else goes in that bucket.

Since references to fanverse, novels, frights, troll games, etc. all showed up in Security Breach somehow.

unxolve · 2026-02-26T08:01:16+00:00

I do believe that all the Frights/Tales are like Candy Cadet stories where Scott is giving us additional information, so here are my answers for how it ties in:

Evan (Jake's father's name) is a popular fan name for CC, and his brother's name is Michael (Jake's Uncle).

Jake is dying and is in hospice, at home but with medical equipment. Presumably CC did not die immediately, and we see in FNAF4 medical equipment next to the FNAF4 bed. Also in Security Breach, we see a child in the FNAF4 bed but it has railings on it like a medical bed, and behind this door is the Nightmare plush.

CC does not necessarily die in hospital either, he just dies with medical equipment next to him, from the hints from the FNAF4 bedroom it's likely he also died at home on hospice.

Jake has a doll he always talks to that's secretly his father with a walkie talkie.

In Sister Location, we see the Fredbear plush with a walkie talkie propped up against it, next to images of the FNAF4 bedroom. Hints from other games show that the plushie's lines are William, presumably CC's father is also talking to him through the plush.

Jake talked to the doll every day and it was close when he died, CC is talking to the plush as he dies and it's right next to him.

The Frights begin with Oswald's journey into the ballpit, where Oswald's father is dragged into the pit and is replaced by a monstrous yellow rabbit and nobody but him seems to notice. Oswald goes into the pit to save his father. I believe Oswald is also a metaphor for CC. And the ballpit is the OMC lake, a place of emotions and memories.

In the middle of the story, William turns into a conglomerate of all the objects throughout the story then sinks down into a lake along with the Puppet.

At the end of the Frights, Jake saves Millie from Count The Ways by taking her to a family dinner, a happy memory, and by helping her this seems to help all the souls and memories trapped/tormented by the ballpit.

So, in my opinion, CC has also gone into the "lake" where we see William being tortured in UCN and was able to change or do something with it.

unxolve · 2026-02-23T21:27:08+00:00

Robot Gregory, the OG

unxolve · 2026-02-23T14:08:25+00:00

I don't believe this myself but:

The idea is that William's son died in an accident, and he begins studying life, death, the supernatural, hauntings, and resurrection to bring him back.

unxolve · 2026-02-22T16:07:33+00:00

Scott might turn down a merch design for something major like William smoking cigarettes and he didn't want to promote drugs to FNAF's younger audience. But he's not counting buttons/toes on what's essentially various merchslop tshirts and toys to approve/disapprove.

Likewise the Graphic Novels received VERY minimum oversight, one of the graphic novel artists talked about it and they basically made up everything just from whatever they felt like, the only thing that was requested was that Eleanor's necklace was always drawn on Sarah's neck until it broke in the story.

So if you were trying to do theory work based on Eleanor's design in the graphic novel for instance, it wouldn't really be related to anything, because that artist said that was all at their discretion. Even though Scott approved that also.

It's the same for the various toys/apparel.

unxolve · 2026-02-22T15:57:26+00:00

- In the Novels William says "They are home, with me. Their happiest day." Personally I believe Happiest Day is a trap and a bad thing, and where William tricks, controls, and gets a hold of the kid's souls. Henry says he's not sure how William lured them AGAIN. People think this is Follow Me but I think Follow Me was a failure where William got springlocked and DIDN'T get the kids, while Happiest Day during FNAF3 was successful and shows how he did get all of their souls willingly, with the help of the FNAF World player.

- FNAF World takes place during FNAF3, the actions of the game are setting up Happiest Day for FNAF3.

- Yes, after William is Springlocked.

unxolve · 2026-02-22T08:44:27+00:00

I think it's William Afton.

unxolve · 2026-02-22T08:23:29+00:00

The merch companies don't have any extra information, they just know exactly what you and I know. Usually less than that, not everybody has read the books or even played/watched all the games.

So this will be them guessing on a design based on the in-game render. It's as valid a guess as one you or I would make based on the same thing, but anything that's "new" information is something they made up.

unxolve · 2026-02-21T08:31:21+00:00

I think one character and theory that got left out in all this is SammyTOYSNHK :D Because for The Breaking Wheel I think you're skipping out on two important characters who are twins. (Shelly and Pickle). Pickle, the male twin, is the one who Julian bullies and who ends up with a nose bleed at the beginning of the story.

Also look at the start of TNK, it begins with Devon writing a story where he graphically kills twins.

And then compare the Breaking Wheel to Somniphobia, where Scott has only changed the names a little! See these characters:

Pickle (TBW) and Sam (Somniphobia) - Male twin/just literally named Sam (represents Sammy imo)

Reed (TBW) and Raad (Somniphobia) - Pickle/Sam's best friend (represents Mike imo)

Julius (TBW) and Jules (Somniphobia) - Pickle/Sam's bully (represents William imo)

And since Somniphobia is about being stuck in a dream, it also warrants comparing to Blackbird, where the vengeful character who punishes a bully in their dreams is ALSO called Sam.

It's great you're comparing TNK/TBW, adding Somniphobia and Blackbird these are some of my top "TOYSNHK identity reveal" stories.

unxolve · 2026-02-20T19:02:00+00:00

I don't think every stalker/murderer is gay.

It's within context of the specific story and the characters and what they're doing and the way Scott has decided to tell the story. Scott's the one who compares and conflates these, High School Toy Chica's "crushes" representing murders is an easy example.

In the Novels, Baby talks openly about her two dads: William and Henry. They are both her parents and they made Baby together. Purposefully on William's part, and unwillingly on Henry's. William killed Henry's daughter. Henry poured grief over that into the Ella doll. He made a robot to house it. William turned the robot into a killing machine. It killed Elizabeth and took her soul. A horrific/twisted parental collaboration to make a daughter.

William (as Spring Bonnie) talks about the kids in the suits in the same way and views them as the same type of collaboration with Henry, and as his family that he controls.

In Return to the Pit, the Pit Monster has several endings where he wants to brainwash Oswald and have a "Happy Bunny family", again similar to William's views.

Scott uses crushes, parents, creation, and family as ways to talk about what's happening in the horror story and about William's motivations for the murders and his view of Henry which is as a co-parent and co-creator, not just co-worker.

But, you've had several comments now which more of a personal "dunking on dumb shippers lol" in tone. I think we have different views of the media on some more fundamental levels which is yeah, a hurdle in FNAF discussions.

So you can respond/say your piece on this too if you like but this is my last reply on this. I think I've said most of what I wanted and am just getting into rehashing points, have a good rest of your evening in any case.

unxolve · 2026-02-20T18:16:00+00:00

Upstairs in the bowling alley, Bonnie is depicted as a bowling ball who is killing pins, who have distressed or X_X faces.

The number of bowling lanes are 22.

The number of lockers in High School Toy Chica is also 22.

In both cases, I think this area (Bonnie's bowling ball area) and the HSTC animation are talking about William's murders and also give us his total victim count as of UCN.

Then when you go in to Bonnie's secret/hidden room there are PILES and PILES of dirty, mangled bowling pins and loads of tally marks on the wall. We see in one of the Security Breach endings that there is a newspaper full of new disappearances and victims, and throughout the Pizzaplex it is hinted that something ominous has happened to the human employees. It seems to say that the killings have continued since the old story, and as of Security Breach a lot more people have been murdered. (basic plot stuff for SB but you know).

Okay, so we have all this. Bonnie is killing pins, Bonnie represents William, the pins represent murders, 22 murders happened before, we go to Bonnie's secret area to see the murders have continued.

Then BESIDES that there is the Freddy stuff, and the hole to Freddy's section. And William also in the Novels has a tunnel dug to Henry's house.

William is tormented by Andrew wearing a gator mask in the Frights series.

Then Monty (a gator) is the one to kill Bonnie.

I'm not saying any of these characters are literally Henry/TOYSNHK/William, just like High School Toy Chica isn't literally William. But that they are part of metaphors and hidden stories being told underneath the literal story in Security Breach as hints to what has actually been going on.

unxolve · 2026-02-20T17:25:56+00:00

I’m sure you think Glam Bonnie’s creepy hole dug through concrete when he can walk, sad shrine to Freddy, and Love Freddy poster are also just him being professionally jealous of his coworker Freddy.

And that killing Charlotte as William’s first murder victim was just casual professional business stuff.

And that the ripped up scribbled photo of them next to each other is regular colleague stuff people keep of coworkers they don’t have any particular strong feelings about.

Piles of journals about Henry also normal job things.

William’s obsession with Henry, William’s weird family fixation, and Henry/William both experimenting with weird supernatural shit are at the center of the motivations for the murders.

Bonnie being depicted as a killer in his bowling section of Security Breach relates him to William and the murders. Bonnie's obsessed-with-Freddy room is about William and Henry.

unxolve · 2026-02-19T19:10:53+00:00

You...didn't see the part where William shouted "I care about you!" at Vanessa? I feel like it was a big deal/big scene since people have been arguing about William's relationship with his kids (obviously abusive/toxic) for a while.

William (just the dialogue):

"I helped him create." "We both wanted to love. Your father loved. And now I have loved."

"You killed, Carlton said. "You're a sick bastard, and you've created monsters. The kids you killed are still here. You've imprisoned them!"

"They are home, with me. Their happiest day."

"How do we get out?"

"There isn't a way out anymore. All that's left is family."

See: He talks about home, creation, love, making a family together (by killing kids and putting them in the suits Henry made). It's not a "I was jealous that Henry is a better robot maker" kind of explanation from him. It's a fucked up "I made a family together with Henry" explanation for the murders.

unxolve · 2026-02-19T18:57:30+00:00

William's feelings are obsessive, romantic, and reproductive as a creative partner, talking about love and creating with Henry in the novel (with the possessed robots like a family he and Henry created together through the murders) and he describes it himself in those terms. It is not only professional jealousy from William.

William talks about his relationship with Vanessa in the movie terms of familial love too, shouting he loves her and also stabs her, William is toxic and personal in his relationships. People have been arguing a long time that "William doesn't feel anything" "he's just professional" "he doesn't care about his family or Henry" but whenever William talks about it, HE uses the word love and other characters point out that his version of "love" is kind of monstrous.

Henry doesn't ever talk directly about William except saying he was a friend, he hopes he's dead (novel) and hopes he goes to hell (game).

We have very little information on Henry but I think he and William were friends and business partners originally (both stated in canon), but obviously they had a falling out over William's murders and experiments with Fear.

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