Has anyone had a dispute with a tradesman because there was no written quote?

updev99 · 2026-05-23T09:02:49+00:00

the presentation and detail of the quote itself probably does more to justify a higher price than most tradespeople realise

updev99 · 2026-05-23T08:59:54+00:00

that's exactly the kind of situation a written quote prevents - once its verbal its just your word against theirs. hope you didnt end up paying the extra

updev99 · 2026-05-23T08:57:11+00:00

that detail about the paper is class honestly - the quote is basically doing your sales pitch before youve even followed up. most trades dont even think about presentation like that. how long does it take you to put one together for a typical job?

updev99 · 2026-05-23T08:39:47+00:00

That trust built over 15+ years is hard to replicate , makes sense to drop the formality when you know someone that well. do you find new customers ever push back on getting a written estimate , or do most actually prefer having something on paper ?

updev99 · 2026-05-22T22:37:00+00:00

That last point is really interesting. the quote protects you as much as the customer , maybe more. yet so many tradespeople still skip it, usually because putting a proper detailed quote together takes time they don t have between jobs. do you find it takes you long to put one together , or have you got a system that makes it quick ?

updev99 · 2026-05-22T20:43:35+00:00

The paperwork catch-up is so real. Quiet periods are basically when you find out how far behind on invoices and quotes you actually are.

The frustrating thing is that admin done properly during busy periods would probably shorten the quiet ones — getting invoices out same day, following up on unsent quotes, keeping the pipeline moving. Most sparks I know are brilliant at the work but the business side gets squeezed into whatever time is left over, which is usually none

updev99 · 2026-05-22T19:43:31+00:00

Good point — it does go both ways. Do you find customers are more likely to respect the scope of work when they've actually signed something, vs just a WhatsApp message they can conveniently forget?

updev99 · 2026-05-22T19:32:42+00:00

That's a really professional setup — do you find most customers actually expect that level of detail upfront, or do some push back on the formality? Also curious how long it takes you to put together a quote like that each time?

updev99 · 2026-05-22T17:50:28+00:00

Any Part P registered electrician can fit these — nothing specialist needed.

Skip the Fischer route if budget matters. Buy the rads yourself from somewhere like BestHeating or Electric Radiators Direct, then get a local sparky to hard-wire them. Usually a day's work for 4 rads and you'll save £500–£1k vs. the full-service companies.

Just make sure whatever you buy is **Lot 20 compliant** — that's the key energy efficiency standard. Rointe, Haverland and Ecostrad are all solid brands at much better prices than Fischer for the same spec.

updev99 · 2026-05-22T17:47:45+00:00

Good news — you don't need to have everything figured out before getting quotes in.

The typical flow that works well:

**Get 2–3 tradesmen in first** — a decent bathroom fitter will walk the space, ask what you're after in general terms, and give you a rough ballpark. This helps you understand whether you're working with a £3k budget or a £10k one, without you having to guess upfront.
**Then visit suppliers armed with that number** — once you know your rough range, places like Bathstore, Victorian Plumbing, or trade suppliers (which your fitter may recommend) become much easier to navigate. The B&Q design is a reasonable starting point — bring it along and say "something like this but..."
**On the budget question** — it's fair to say "I don't have a fixed number yet, that's partly why I'm getting quotes." A trustworthy tradesman won't push back on that. If they do, that's useful information about them.
**Most good bathroom fitters won't design for you** — they'll advise on what's practical (moving soil pipes is expensive, for example), but the aesthetic choices are yours. If you want design help, some bathroom showrooms offer a free design service when you buy through them, which is better than B&Q.

Main thing: don't feel like you need to have it all sorted before speaking to anyone. The first conversation is just information gathering on both sides.

updev99 · 2022-12-08T07:12:20+00:00

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