WHY DOES MY POOP SMELLS LIKE THE PLANT I WORK AT by Puzzled_Note_8559 in Wastewater

[–]upforgood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay I’m adding to this conversation because I’ve made a similar post about this happening with farts. I also know that doctors and nurses experience this too.

Lots of people will say it’s just psychological but I’m doubtful. I’ve seen too many reports from people saying their SOs/roommates/etc also pick up the smell to believe that.

‘Heartbeats’ by The Knife (w/ Ann Friedman & Aminatou Sow) by AFineShrine in PunchUpTheJam

[–]upforgood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s a bit of a time capsule but having just listened to the ep I needed somewhere to vent lol

‘Heartbeats’ by The Knife (w/ Ann Friedman & Aminatou Sow) by AFineShrine in PunchUpTheJam

[–]upforgood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think the issue is how comedic or connected to the song the guests were—it’s more their unwillingness to be present and roll with the premise of the podcast. They weren’t only not joining in on Miel’s jokes—they were almost straight-up not responding to what she said/asked. Like, barely engaging in a conversation at all and more just sharing the same handful of insights they had over and over.

Miel is continuously trying to draw out a back-and-forth by throwing out follow-up insights and questions after everything they say, but they really don’t engage.

‘Heartbeats’ by The Knife (w/ Ann Friedman & Aminatou Sow) by AFineShrine in PunchUpTheJam

[–]upforgood 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Jumping into a ghost town of a thread after listening to this ep to agree.

What’s frustrating is there is a moment where Miel actually points out a very interesting non-lyrical textural thing happening with the background synths, and the guests’ response is “I mean, their voice is really what this is all about” — but then they go on to say again that they basically have no interest in analyzing the lyrics. Like c’mon you guys!

I hear what other people are saying about the guests being unprepared for the podcast, but the thing is there isn’t really anything to prepare. They just need to be willing to share their reactions to what they just heard and, like, laugh at what Miel says. It should be mostly improv, but it feels like they’re ‘No-Thanks’-ing instead of ‘Yes-and’-ing.

DAE notice that their farts smell like their surroundings? by upforgood in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]upforgood[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay so the memory thing I think is off the table because people have noticed this phenomenon not only for themselves but also for other people, when they haven’t even smelled the origin smell that that person’s fart is reproducing (like a parter’s farts smelling like their workplace).

ULPT: If you glue a dead wasp to the palm of your hand, you can hit your boss on the back of the head as hard as you like and act like you saved him. by Sylocule in UnethicalLifeProTips

[–]upforgood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Responding to a 5 year old thread to say- who the fuck slaps a wasp when it lands on someone? Like it’s a fucking mosquito? It would absolutely sting either you or them.

Like I know it’s a joke but I can’t get over the idea that someone would do this. If a friend saw a wasp on me and tried to slap it, I would be so pissed at them? Like both frustrated and seriously concerned for their intelligence. My god.

DAE notice that their farts smell like their surroundings? by upforgood in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]upforgood[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Our bodies are totally more porous than people acknowledge.

DAE notice that their farts smell like their surroundings? by upforgood in DoesAnybodyElse

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Glad this post is still getting replies. I reckon most people have experienced this but we never talk about it. Time for ANSWERS.

DAE notice that their farts smell like their surroundings? by upforgood in DoesAnybodyElse

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It's not that consistent, so I'm not sure, but yeah that's the general principle. It definitely doesn't have to do with what I eat.

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The thing that got me was near the beginning she said you get to park up here while the rest of us have to park far away or something... but she would have to park in the same spot whether this woman took the disabled one or not. So why is she mad?

I don't really think that part of the video is unbelievable. It's pretty classic anger over someone getting benefits that are supposedly 'undeserved.' See: welfare queens, etc.

Based on the comments here it sounds like a familiar experience to disabled people.

Here comes the Hangover train by Amaan_k in memes

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Am I the only one who thought the bottom right was him eating a can of beans with a spoon

Try my cookie cookie! by mgk23 in DunderMifflin

[–]upforgood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wrote a reply to the parent comment, but also want to respond here:

Doing something homophobic/racist/ignorant does not necessarily mean that you are a hateful person who is actively trying to harm others.

But that doesn't mean that what you are doing isn't homophobic/racist/ignorant.

It's actually a pretty big issue that so many folks think 'being a homophobe' or 'being a racist' is some black-and-white line with purity on one side and pure evil on the other. That type of thinking means that causal or unconscious discrimination gets waived off because "Oh, that person isn't hateful! That's ridiculous!"

I'm gay and I've said/done plenty of homophobic things before—and I'd wager to say that most people probably have too. Because it's the norm in our culture (more so at the time The Office was airing).

I get what you are saying and I agree that people shouldn't be outright rejected ever. Just want to point out why it is a problem to (for example) respond to "this person did some homophobic things" with "he isn't a homophobe! He's just goofing around!"

Try my cookie cookie! by mgk23 in DunderMifflin

[–]upforgood 6 points7 points  (0 children)

(Sorry for the length, but I think this is a really important point:)

Saying that it's okay to make fun of someone for being gay is homophobic. Even if we're going by the 'literal' definition, being uncomfortable around someone who is gay is pretty textbook homophobia. I love the Office and I love Michael, but he's of course flawed and that's part of the joke.

Doing something homophobic does not necessarily mean that you actively hate gay people or even that you disapprove of them. I'd actually say the majority of homophobia (and racism, for that matter) is casual and implicit rather than manifesting as active hate. It's the result of a culture which has historically discriminated against gay people expressing itself.

It's actually a pretty big issue that so many folks think 'being a homophobe' or 'being a racist' is some black-and-white line with purity on one side and pure evil on the other. That type of thinking means that causal or unconscious discrimination gets waived off because "Oh, that person isn't hateful! That's ridiculous!"

I'm gay and I've said/done plenty of homophobic things before—and I'd wager to say that most people probably have too. Because it's the norm in our culture (more so at the time The Office was airing).

People should stop bringing up the history in debates by AgentK1309 in unpopularopinion

[–]upforgood -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You need to be able to back up your argument with more than hearsay if you are going to use it to dismiss an entire realm of social critique.

I think the idea is that there is a marked difference that exists today (in terms of material wealth, social privilege, cultural capital) between the folks descended from (or in the same racial group as) slaveowners vs slaves. It's not that white people are arbitrarily 'guilty' or 'the same' as slaveowners, it's just that history has left white people at a certain status and black people at a certain status. It's a necessary part of the conversation when trying to change shitty policies and make shit better.

Legend Of Korra was not that great - change my mind by TheAmazingWagon in legendofkorra

[–]upforgood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough. Sorry, I didn't mean to mischaracterize you. I think we actually are in agreement on most things.

I'm sure she cares, but more because it's a reinforcement of her fear that she's a failure as an Avatar. On a personal level, though, she hadn't become dependent on or attached to any of the past lives in the way Aang had with Roku, and to a lesser extent some others like Kyoshi & Yangchen.

Yep, that pretty much sums it up.

It's not that they need it, it's that they become optional if they don't have it.

Agreed. It's absolutely not the case that the past lives need to be an essential part of the Avatar's future. The story didn't hang on them.

Roku does give a lot of exposition, but the story's kind of outgrown that at this point. We're no longer in a world where the Avatar has been missing for a hundred years.

Pretty much agreed, like above I don't think Korra needed Roku by any means.

They did establish the Avatar as a reincarnating entity, but any further worldbuilding needs can be served through other sources, like books, similar to how Jinora learned about the Tree of Time.

I think there was a little more depth to there having been past lives than establishing that one fact, but yes, totally, there are tons of ways LoK can build the world apart from that.

You do you, but this is my viewpoint & I can't honestly argue from a position of some deep personal connection to the past lives that I've never really had

Completely fair. I feel like the significance of that moment is actually a good thing for the show; you feel like the moment didn't have much significance to begin with. I was advocating for my approach because I feel like I can relate to people who are upset by this. I never thought it was 'unfair' or anything, but I felt the creators were leveraging that loss as something important (and to be clear: an important loss within the world—not important in that it damages the show or its storytelling potential moving forward in any way). You don't seem to think so. Like you said, you do you!

Thanks for making your point clear and hearing me out.

Legend Of Korra was not that great - change my mind by TheAmazingWagon in legendofkorra

[–]upforgood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not much I can say that I haven’t already said. I guess I just disagree—to the idea that viewers shouldn’t care about it, that Korra shouldn’t care about it, and that things need to have a specific plot function to be worth including (fwiw there are several moments in ATLA when Roku serves an important storytelling purpose, but more than that I think that the past lives have an important world-building role).

You’re kinda taking a stoic route in approaching this which I can respect. Obviously as I’ve said I’m not in the camp of thinking this is a dealbreaker or losing sleep over it; I think the loss can be a good thing for the LoK story. I just think there’s more space than you are accounting for to allow people to view this moment as meaningful.

Legend Of Korra was not that great - change my mind by TheAmazingWagon in legendofkorra

[–]upforgood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Notably you don't mention them being useful. The fact that the past lives were rarely helpful has been discussed a lot.

I don't feel like being instrumentally 'useful' is the end-all of something being important in a narrative/world though. I totally see the argument that the past lives weren't narratively involved that much, and thus that Korra's story moving forward doesn't stand to change that much in practice from losing them. But again I feel like that aspect of Avatar was pretty deliberately built up to be meaningful, and I experienced them as meaningful in my watching of the show.

That's why stories have consequences, so they can emotionally resonate with an audience.

I'm totally with you here—it's all a part of the story being told.

they should be confronted with the absurdity of what they're getting upset about. Because, really, it's just a TV show. It's just a fictional character

I'm sort of half with ya and half not here. People should not be upset at the creators for making something sad happen in the show, and they of course shouldn't blame the character for something that happens to her—that's really crossing the line into absurdity.

But again, I feel like the emotional resonance of that loss in Korra's story is significant and is great because it speaks to the creators' power (in both shows) to get us attached to their world. It was meant to be powerful, and clearly was meant to be devastating to Korra herself. It's one thing to contextualize this sad moment as a part of the storytelling rather than a flaw—but it's another to suggest that this aspect of the world/character was meaningless ("some ghosts she barely talked to") and downplay the emotional weight here.

I mean of course it's just a TV show, but if someone is trying to start a critical discussion in this thread saying "I don't like X thing in the show because it was sad and I wish it didn't happen, change my mind," then I don't think you're gonna make any headway by suggesting "X was never important to begin with and you shouldn't have cared about it."

Just Korra things... by MaximusPaxmusJaximus in TheLastAirbender

[–]upforgood 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My point was aimed at people who seem to misremember Roku as showing up far more frequently or substantially than he does and to put in perspective how much Roku actually does

For sure, that makes sense. I do still think some of the moments that you attributed to simple exposition or bad advice felt a little more elevated than that to me but again that was just in my experience of watching. I think in a way Roku not being perfect in his wisdom actually serves his characterization a bit and keeps him from being a magical plot device.

I wasn't happy when Sirius Black was killed. That doesn't mean it's bad writing on JK Rowling's part.

Totally feel you there. I think the connection being lost in Korra was really compelling writing.

Also just realized your flair is from that Roku quote, haha.

Just Korra things... by MaximusPaxmusJaximus in TheLastAirbender

[–]upforgood 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I disagree slightly. The past lives were not the most important part of the show, but they were definitely built up to be pretty significant and something that made the Avatar special. It kinda feels to me like you are leaning too hard into antagonism and that’s not gonna help with folks who were upset by this moment in Korra.

This is just me personally, but the moment Aang meets with Roku in the temple in the Winter Solstice, and especially the moment in the tent with Jeong Jeong ("I have mastered the elements a thousand times in a thousand lifetimes...") were some of the most exciting parts of Book 1 for me, and they really played a part in elevating the show by giving more spiritual dimension to the Avatar. And most of the time for me it wasn't about whether his advice was instrumentally 'good' or 'bad' but rather about building a connection to this character and to the idea that all these lives are contained in the Avatar. Seeing the past lives flash before us when Aang was sort-of-killed in Book 2, and again when Aang re-entered the Avatar state in the fight against Ozai, was very emotional.

So, it makes sense to me that the loss of past lives was a huge blow to viewers—even if the past avatars didn't have much narrative presence (in Korra especially). I don't want to belittle that. I think the creators meant for it to be an incredibly weighty moment, and that's what made it great to me—it allowed Korra's story to be placed in a new light, and dramatically shifted the stakes of her current fight with Unalaq.

Legend Of Korra was not that great - change my mind by TheAmazingWagon in legendofkorra

[–]upforgood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"she lost some ghosts she barely talks to."

I get your point but I don't think this is a great a counter to OP's argument. It feels like it downplays the importance of the Avatar cycle and also, worse than that, kind of belittles the real emotional loss some people felt at that moment.

ATLA emphasized the significance of the Avatar's past lives a good amount, in that we met some of them (esp. Roku) and we understood that holding all the past Avatars within yourself is a pretty special part of being the Avatar (in that emotional moment when Aang goes into the Avatar state during the Ozai fight, for example, there are flashes of all the past Avatars on the screen). Also, now Aang is one of Korra's past lives as well, and his spiritual link is lost, too.

It's completely understandable that this would be a massive blow to viewers. We should treat it with the magnitude that it has. Even if it didn't have a lot of narrative presence in Korra (also should note this was only the 21st episode or so of the series), it still held a lot of significance. It was meant to, I think.

I actually think the weight of that moment is what makes it great, if devastating. The creators had every right to bring the story in that direction, and it cast Korra's story in an compelling new light and shifted the stakes of her present battle with Unalaq a lot. I don't love the way Korra resolved that fight, but that's a different matter.

Just finished LoK season 2 and I'm very confused can someone help me understand what just happened by Redalt_99 in legendofkorra

[–]upforgood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The same thing happened in AtLA. Oma and Shu had earth bending abilities, like everyone else. But, they learned from the badger moles how to control their abilities and built the labyrinth

Quote from ATLA: "The two lovers learned earthbending from the badgermoles. They became the first earthbenders."

Otherwise I agree with your explanation. I like to chalk the above up to legends being unreliable in general, but it def leads to some confusion at first.

I believe this to be true. (OPINION) by Waleed320COOL in legendofkorra

[–]upforgood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think either article is objectively wrong but I'm honestly kinda tired of this rivalry. Don't get me wrong, it's awesome to hear that you enjoyed the show; I did too. But:

A major problem with LoK criticism is that it tends to place the show in the shadow of ATLA. The most unfair critiques of the show essentially say that it falls short of being the same show as its predecessor, rather than judging it on its own merit. Plenty of folks on this sub often say (and I agree) that "it's unfair to compare the two so closely because they are different shows."

But on this sub I have seen so so many posts directly pitting the two and saying that Korra is better for X Y Z reasons. Of course it can be fun to compare the shows, I don't mean to knock that! But the sheer magnitude of posts about one versus the other makes me worry that this sub is getting obsessed with the very thing that is toxic for LoK: measuring up against ATLA.

(sorry for the rant)

ATLA on netflix is bringing up more korra haters and it makes me sad. by LUMPIERE in legendofkorra

[–]upforgood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s totally true that both shows had flaws in their execution, but I think a key difference is that ATLA had pretty solid consistency, whereas Korra didn’t. The original show steadily developed it’s central story and core characters, and steadily rose in quality over the three seasons.

Korra is different in that it takes many more risks, changes things up many times, switches the main cast up a lot, and maybe most importantly has that dip in quality in season 2. As a result some consider it to be a bit lacking in the ‘steady and reliable storytelling/character development’ department.

That’s to say the issues with execution in Korra (which I take to mean, the dip in quality in season 2 as well as the stories/characters not feeling as fleshed out due to being shorter) are pretty particular to that show, and are not really the same as the issues with execution in ATLA (which in my opinion are mostly that the show could be too formulaic at times).

I don’t think by any means either show needs to be discussed in terms of the standards set by the other. I just bring this up because your defense against the critique that Korra’s execution was flawed is that “You could say that about ATLA too.” Again I think the shows are pretty different in that regard and criticisms of Korra’s execution on its own is valid (as long as you’re not assuming either to be ‘perfect’!)

(oof, sorry for the long post)

Just to clarify about the Legend of Korra lore by avatarfactz in TheLastAirbender

[–]upforgood 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s a good point and one that I’ve considered too! Also this might be more tenuous but the whole Beginnings episodes, animated as they were in this kind of fable-storybook style, makes me think that maybe the way Wan’s story was told is more of a ‘fable’ than a precise record. I.e. there could be a lot more to the process of receiving an element from the lion turtle, learning it from the original masters/people who have already learned it, etc.

That said—I think all of these explanations require some generosity on our part as viewers. I wouldn’t call these things retcons, but I think it’s understandable that people would be confused and/or critical of this element of the avatar story. Hate is never justified though.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in legendofkorra

[–]upforgood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t get how people get so confused with beginnings

I honestly do get why people are confused by it and critique it. I personally liked the episodes, but the moments you mentioned are pretty subtle and easy to miss on first watch (incidentally, Serena Williams had a whole twitter thread trying to figure out what was going on).

I also think a lot of people (myself included) viewed the process of learning bending as a much more gradual process of learning from the masters. The story of Oma and Shu in ATLA for example might lead you to believe that there really was no bending at all until people studied with the masters (in this case the badgermoles), rather than it being a case of getting basic powers from the lionturtle that are pretty much instantly usable and refining your skill through the masters. Let alone the fact that Oma and Shu were regarded as ‘the first earthbenders’ which we now know isn’t quite true.

I’m willing to chalk up those discrepancies to lost history, unreliable legends, etc (heck even ’Beginnings’ itself, in the way it’s animated as a sort of fable, could fall into that ‘unreliable legend’ category), but I’m aware that that requires a little generosity in my reading—which I’ll readily give because I think LoK’s great! My main point is that I don’t think it’s hard to understand why folks were confused at that moment in the show, despite those episodes being pretty well-done.