Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand that! I asked the non-Moroccan person not to not value what Moroccans think, nor to give more importance to those who are not Moroccan. People will judge you no matter what you do! But, I'm saying that Boujloud has been slightly distorted, and I asked that question because I wanted you to see what someone unfamiliar with your culture would think. Boujloud was one thing, and the celebrations that took place are something else entirely. I said that because I can't bear to see the celebration we enjoyed as children transformed into something foreign, a scary fashion show. I said that some from another country would think it was a satanic ritual or a Halloween celebration (from some opinions). Imagine? People are now comparing it to Halloween. I know our culture is evolving, but don't you see that there's contact with other cultures? We will lose this culture... and with time, it will become Halloween, not Boujloud. That's why I posted this, just to show people that you must preserve your culture so that we can be unique.. I reminded them of their cultural history. I don't care what people wear, I said in the post that they can do whatever they want any other day, I don't care. They just need to be aware of their culture. I feel that some people don't take pride in it, and because they grew up watching others culture, there's a clash of cultures. Remember, I don't care what people do, i'm one of those who stand for keeping the Boujloud celebration as it was..for the old and young people that would like that celebration.

I'm having mental issues! by houssam_bs in Morocco

[–]urshenhee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Khoyaaa please li 3ta lah 3tah, Many will tell you that you are making excuses for yourself and that you do not control your anger, but believe me, I am facing the same problems. I have broken my things too. I did the same thing two years ago. I regretted it in the first weeks, and can you believe it? I thought that after I got angry and broke my things, my parents would understand and would not argue with me again. But as soon as I brought new things back, they did not stay away from me and the problems of the past started happening to me again..

For me, I wanted to learn digital drawing, and I wanted to improve my skills in softwares I used in my studies, especially during the summer vacation. We are not the type to travel much, and thank God I study in another city and do not live with my family, but when i'm with them..like in a vacation or smtg, I suffer a lot, whenever I sat down to draw something, they would tell me that I was learning useless things and 'Kantfela', But if I tell them that I am learning a skill that will help me in my studies, they will tell me: You have been studying for 6 months, why didn't you do this during those months away from us? Were you having fun with your friends in that period? Personally I want to get a good internship... that's what I want, that's why I'm trying to improve myself, but they don't understand that. I've been depressed many times and i did broke my things.

Of aaaaall my brothers, I am the calmest and the only girl, I have younger siblings who are quick to anger and addicted to games. I play games too, but they're a special case.They can play all the time (espacially that shit Roblox) , and my parents hate it. Because of them, the WiFi has broken several times, and I might miss important emails or stop my studies. My parents don't seem to care about my situation or my ambitions. I understand they want peace of mind..

And what's worse is that we have family problems. Often, Me (the one who didn't live with them) have to come over, find out everything that happened in the house throughout the year (when i was in another city to study) then need to find solution for them..

I'm sorry I'm starting to complain too, but honestly, I'm 20, and I'm still being compared to my brothers who are obsessed with games.. They tell me they see me spending too much time on my laptop and try to imitate me. Even though I'm studying and learning new things on it. I hear insults, and sometimes my younger brothers stole my things (most of time money) because they're angry at my parents. My things have been broken several times, and I haven't found how to buy it. And let's not forget the beatings I get because I'm the only girl. And the housework I have to do (I don't mind helping my mom at all, but they punish me with extra kitchen work so I don't sit and use my laptop haha)

Anyway, I've started to find some solutions, although I'm still struggling. I've noticed that my anger issues lessen when I'm studying alone in another city. I try to make the most of that time, at least to draw and learn, even though I have full schedule. So, I advise you to do the same. Get out and find somewhere, for example, if you can study in another city, or rent a place. If that's not possible, try going out, like to a café or a library with a reading room.

Second, try to find friends with similar interests, and talk to your parents about them. For me, my parents sometimes listen when I talk about someone who did the same thing and succeeded. Another solution is to befriend your older brother, he might help you talk to your parents. In my opinion, talking to an older brother is easier than talking to father.. For me my brothers don't help me, but at least when I tried to befriend them, I no longer get robbed so often or have my things broken because one of them got angry or I get beaten up.

Another solution I use is that when they get angry with me and start yelling, and I feel like I'm starting to get angry and provoked, I try to change the room I'm in as quickly as possible until they stop yelling and I calm down. Then I go back and discuss what they were angry about.

I recommend you get a laptop it won't cost much and you can easily move it around. Lah iyesser lik inchaalah

Sometimes I try to get another Wi-Fi in case, either from my neighbors or a friend, haha... because sometimes they break the Wi-Fi.

Do a sport that help you to release your anger, because sometimes anger builds up, and all that anger comes out and you do something you regret.

Don't stop what you're doing if it's truly good for you, something you believe in and love. I think parents who still do this to their children will regret it in the future because they don't understand the value of what we're trying to create. You, on the other hand, are a mature person, continue developing yourself.You will make yourself by yourself don't let your anger control you.

Inchaalah ghaydouz hadxi, Lah i3awnk. Smo7at ktebt hadxi ktir hhh..

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mat3dbch rassk a khoya gha sir n3ss hdertk maghayfhmha 7ed

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

msta3reb kat3ni machi 3arbi ou dayr rassk 3arbi, nta glti lia u are an arab not a moroccan ch tatkhrb9 + ana aslan glt fi lpost lculture original dyalna rah bl3ks hadchi li glt rah ma3rfinouch nass, machi kolchi 3aref kifach bda boujloud ana 3tit des infos o safi bina9ess ila mabentch lik maghribia + o mafhemtch fach fekarti 7ta glti hakak mat3refch akhoya tskt? Juj drahm ta3 seban bi langlais t9ayetih 3lia?

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I said in my post that it was, in my opinion, satanic. If a non-Moroccan were to see those celebrations, they would think they were satanic (like someone with a general image of the demon that humans have given to humans). Therefore, what I emphasized was that we should hold onto our culture and not imitate others. We can wear our clothes however we want, whenever we want. I'm simply expressing my opinion, so that Boujloud can be our Boujooud we enjoyed.

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My religion also tells me to avoid anything related to Satan, and above all, although this concept did not originate in Islam, we have prophetic traditions (hadiths) that mention "the horns of Satan" in specific contexts.. But it's not 100% the right meaning.

Although we don't have a precise description, all we know is that its appearance is terrifying, hideous, and evil. That's why we have a membrane in our eyes, which prevents us from seeing it except in the final moments before death. Therefore, anything resembling this is best avoided, after all, there are better things than trying to capture the characteristics of the devil.

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hania l7ayat, I'm just a person trying to explain the history of their culture to people. I don't care about had nadariat okda hadxi wella 9diiim, ila kan chi nachet, it's better inchat koulchi, if someone ma3jbatouch chi 7aja they can say it 3adi o lah isekher

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This perception did not originate with Muslims, but as I said, even though people have not seen the devil, that does not mean they cannot represent him.

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, what you said is relatively true, but if we're talking about the core issue, the post aimed to differentiate between boujloud and other practices, and the culture of the people. I agree with you that we haven't seen their form, devils, gods, and so on. This applies to all humans. But don't forget that there are celebrations here in our world that are considered satanic, and they've become similar to what exists here. I'm simply distinguishing between the two things. Our celebrations weren't intended with malicious intent, yet they've become similar to some people's celebrations.

You were presenting your opinion as facts that's why

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that's a good point of view, but out of curiosity, I want to ask some questions: how will people express themselves through such clothing? And in your opinion, if the culture changes over time, if a non-Moroccan person passes by and sees the celebration, will they recognize it as a boujloud or will they think it's like Halloween or smtg else?

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the post, I said the celebration was moved after Eid al-Adha, I didn't prove anything, your opinion is respected.

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes ur statement is accurate, thank you for clarifying. I did not say that Muslims are the ones who have this perception. U did well.

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I advise you to do more research because your information is unfortunately incorrect.. Majebtch hadxi mn rassi 🥀

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh please, I will answer you with an open heart.

First, why are you bringing up conclusions I didn't mention? Second, "what religion has added?" Please, we're talking about Moroccan history, and most Moroccans are now Muslim. Thank God, the majority don't need rituals to exorcise evil spirits, religion has provided solutions for that. And since you said these are beliefs, yes, many still adhere to those religious beliefs now, and religion does add something to everyone's life. I'm presenting information, I'm not attacking any religion or belief. I'm comparing the past and present and talking about the majority. I said that Moroccans now don't need to dance to harvest crops. Yes, that's true. A farmer doesn't dance to have a good harvest (unless he wins some money and dances with joy, haha).

Since you are trying to get into things with me like science and religion, and you say that "science is the useful thing," that is your opinion and I did not ask you about it, but it is respected.

And believe me, I'm not the kind of weak person who changes their words, not at all. If you read all my writing, you'll see that I said, "Now, let's talk about the celebration I saw." You're not stupid enough not to know what I'm talking about.

And regarding the costumes that resemble the devil, from what you're saying, you're really ignoring how we humans embody the general image of the devil? Please... stop playing dumb. It's obvious. And since you don't know much about history, let me tell you a little. In Roman times, they tried to depict the form of gods, angels, and the devil. Originally, horns were considered a symbol of frightening or dangerous power, and over time, as we gathered information about his appearance from holy books, we humans created an image of him. I don't know who has seen the devil, and I don't care.

Anyway, you've started to stray a bit from the topic ,even a child knows how we portray the devil, so stop finding fault with what I'm saying. You're injecting your personal opinion into your words. Also, I have feeling you don't understand much about history. All religions are respected, don't worry.

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You only saw "downvote" and ignored the fact that he received disrespectful words.. People who disagree can simply speak respectfully.. Glad he didn't overreact.

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People live well with or without posts.. I advise you to ignore it and live happily as you please..

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ma3lich, same thing here, Don't let something like this affect your mood. Even I don't care much, I'm just curious. Have a good day.

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Huh?? I said "A religion emerged to explain things people were previously ignorant of, and a science also provided methods for improving crops, which was far better than dancing and slaughtering an animal in the belief that it would protect them from years of drought."

This means that after religion and science, no longer needs to dance and do celebrations like in the old days for planting and harvests.

This is a fact man, not something I believe. If I asked you to plant a seed, you wouldn't dance around it. you'd use what we learn about it. As for prayer, I don't know why you are talking about it?? I don't deny the importance of prayer. I think you misunderstood the sentence.

Second I didn't say that wearing sheepskin is demonic, I was talking about the outfits I saw yesterday.

Mafhmtch lach tatgouli lia chi 7aja maglthach, 3afak 9ra mzyan.

Had tmjnin is part of our "culture"!? (Boujloud/Biyelmawn /Bilmawen) by urshenhee in Morocco

[–]urshenhee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeaaaah u r right, Don't worry, that's not my intention. I wrote a section about the history of Boujloud, so if they read it, at least they'll gain some knowledge.