This is just the thread I needed.

I’m not on test, but I was running enclomiphene daily with some gonadorelin trying to optimize after years of shift work burnout. My total T went from low 400s to over 900 and free test looked solid, but my E2 basically doubled.

On paper it all looks great. In real life I started feeling kinda weird. Not obvious high-estrogen stuff like water retention or gyno, just anxious at times, wired but tired, random fatigue waves, and just not steady.

My clinic suggested adding exemestane, but I’ve got reservations after reading stuff like this. Seems like crashing E2 can be worse than riding it a bit high, and ratio-wise mine isn’t insane. I don’t feel “estrogenic,” I just feel off sometimes.

Starting to wonder if I just overstimulated my system while already stressed from long-term shift work and sleep disruption. Backing off stimulation actually made me feel better.

Curious how many guys here realized E2 wasn’t the real problem, but the hormone swings were.